Monday, July 16, 2018

Just This...


7-16-18

Putin’s Puppet Day. 

A day of infamy and betrayal. 

You're with Trump or you're with America now.

106 comments:

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Putin's Puppet Day, July 16, 2018.

The world viewed history today seeing master puppeteer, Vladimir Putin, mesmerize and manipulate his tiny-handed puppet, Trumpo Gigio.

It was a spectacle for all!

Majormajor said...

Did he bow like Obama?

Anonymous said...

The Left is hell bent on all out war with Russia and then blame it on Trump..That seems to be the bottom line.

Dave Dubya said...

See how they choose their corrupt leader, AND PUTIN himself, over our country. Just Like A Cult.

Scorning our country's intel agencies and taking Putin's side in attacking our elections? Even our coming election. It was the most embarrassing infamy and betrayal I've even seen. He made America look weak and foolish. He made Putin's day! Hell, he made Putin's year.

The gutless Big MAGAt lacks the decency and integrity to stand up for his country. And his cult love him.


This sickness is killing our nation. They have made Putin great again.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

VLADIMIR: Trumpo, you've been a very good mouse today. Here, let me tuck you in. Sleep tight.

TRUMPO GIGIO: Oh, Mr. Putin, you've been so nice to me.

VLADIMIR: Of course, my little mouse, I'll always make time for you...

TRUMPO GIGIO: Mr. Putin, Mr. Putin, may I ask you one more small favor?...

VLADIMIR: Of course, my little mouse, what is it?

TRUMPO GIGIO: Kiss me goodnight!...

Bill said...

*Majormajor said... Did he bow like Obama?*

Nope, but he saluted a North Korean general.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"The gutless Big MAGAt lacks the decency and integrity to stand up for his country. And his cult love him." ~~ Dave Dubya

It's all about him, Dave. He's in it for himself, that's it -- just like his cult. Narcissism dictates every move and action. Love and loyalty to nation never play into it. Ever.

We've seen, time and time again, how he's enamored with the world's authoritarian and dictatorial worst. He rebuffs democratic ideals and leaders. They're all "foes" in his world. Dictators and undemocratic strongman are "competitors" and friends.

The same was said about Hitler and Mussolini.

Of course, though, the prospect of the infamous pee-pee tapes still looms large...or small. LOLOL

Dave Dubya said...

Putin’s Puppet Day.

What a day. This is the day that will mark Trump's total separation from America. Our Constitutional crisis is here.

His cult will stay with him to the end, not the end of his presidency, until the end of their lives.

They are that far gone.

We won't be hearing much about Trump from the cult for a while. They will be frantically trying to erase this day from history. You know they would if the could, bless their totalitarian Orwellian little hearts.

Expect them to employ the following Authoritarian Rules and Tactics for Discourse:

"D" Rules:

Deflect

Distract

Discredit

Dismiss

Distort


Tactics:


Whataboutism

Obfuscation

False Narrative

Outright Lies

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"...the US president is willing to trust the word of a former KGB agent ahead of the consensus of his own intelligence community. The killer quote that will send a chill through western intelligence agencies runs as follows: 'I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.'" ~~ Patrick Wintour, The Guardian, 16 July 2018

I guess Donald Trump never read the indictment docs for the twelve Russian military intelligence officers, and its excruciating detail on exactly how they attacked and burglarized DNC Headquarters on 27 July 2016.

This also happens to be the date Donald Trump, within hours of the cyber-attack, made his "Russia, if you're listening" speech.

Including Monday's events in Helsinki, it seems July is Donald Trump's "treasonous month" of choice.

TB3 said...

"The Left is hell bent on all out war with Russia and then blame it on Trump..That seems to be the bottom line."

The fevered dream of someone grasping for straws. No one advocates for war and not everyone opposed to President Trump and his inability to effectively carry out his oath of office are "the left".

Holy cow. I need to buy stock in the Reynolds company... All these foil hats.

Dave Dubya said...

How many other cultists think we must either kiss Putin's ass and betray out country, or want nuclear war?

Simpletons, indeed.

What would these so-called Americans have said if Obama sided with Putin over our bipartisan Senate and FBI/CIA assessments?

They'd call him a traitor, wouldn't they?

So much for the "real Americans" wanting "our country back".

TB3 said...

This is the end result of the turning politics into a team sport. You pick your team and you stick by them through the good times and the bad times.

Except this isn't sport. You can love your Cubs or your Mets. They may reward you with a playoff run, a World Series, or discount ticket nights. Supporting a Politician or a Politician's Team with the same zeal rewards you with what? An extra $20 in take home pay? Higher prices for a can of Pepsi? More outsourcing of manufacturing? Except supporting the Mets or Cubs doesn't inexplicably alienate our decades old allies and trading partners. This is a weird definition of the winning we're supposed to be getting tired of.

Majormajor said...

Russia and the USA have an extradition treaty, do you think Mueller will extradite the accused Russian hackers here for trial? Will Mueller take up Putin's offer to go to Russian and investigate the accused hackers face to face?

Is Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein crazy for saying,

There is no allegation in this indictment that Americans knew that they were corresponding with Russians. There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result.

"The charges include no allegations of knowing involvement by anyone on the campaign and no allegations that the alleged hacking affected the election result."

Do you still believe there is something for Mueller to find? If so, what?

TB3 said...

"Russia and the USA have an extradition treaty..."

No, actually, they do not. Why do you think Edward Snowden fled to Russia?

Straight from the State Department:

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/71600.pdf

"There is no allegation in this indictment that Americans knew that they were corresponding with Russians. There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result."

He's not crazy, because this isn't an exact quote. Furthermore... he's defining the scope of these indictments. He wasn't declaring the innocence of everyone that wasn't the people they DoJ was indicting then.



Dave Dubya said...

LOL! MM wants to send our FBI to be interrogated in Russia. An "incredible deal" according the Big MAGAt puppet.

MM, Why bother chasing your hoax all the way to Russia? Trump's president has already dictated the conclusion.

You DO trust Putin, don't you, Komrad Major?

In case you missed it, Mueller found enough for 35 indictments and pleas: Four former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Five of these people (including three former Trump aides) have already pleaded guilty."

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"In case you missed it, Mueller found enough for 35 indictments and pleas..." ~~ Dave Dubya

...And the best are yet to be.. ;-)

Jefferson's Guardian said...

LOLOL

So Trump just back-peddled on his treasonous comment made in Helsinki yesterday. Besides falling all over himself saying he respects and believes in this nation's Intel community, he stupidly and unbelievably made a Chuck Morre grammatical "adjustment".

It seems the word, "would", should have been "wouldn't", as in, "I can't see any reason why Russia wouldn't interfere in our elections..."

He certainly understands the gullible nature of his deplorable base.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Majormajor said...

Mueller found enough for 35 indictments and pleas..."

When are the trials?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Chuck, just like your president, are you a Putin and Russian sympathizer?

Do you think Trump is an agent of the Russian Federation?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"When are the trials?" ~~ Majormajor (aka Clueless Chuck)

Chuck, I'm starting to get the impression you don't believe the criminal allegations as outlined in the twelve indictments. Is this true?

Are you sympathizing with Putin?...as your president obviously does?

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Jefferson's Guardian said...

"You're with Trump or you're with America now." ~~ Dave Dubya

You've made a fair and just statement. There are many traitors to our nation in these times -- not least of which are the clueless cult-followers of the most treasonous of them all, Donald Trump.

All sympathizers, all enablers -- including those of the Government Of Putin -- are suspect now. It's very apparent who their loyalties are with, and it's not the United States of America or the Constitution of the United States.

We've definitely entered the murky waters of a constitutional crisis. Things start escalating out of control from here. Strap yourself in and hold on...

Majormajor said...

WOW, the way you guys are screaming about President Trump, you'd think he sold 20% of our uranium to Russia or something.

When do the indicted Russians go to trial to prove their guilt?

TB3 said...

"you'd think he sold 20% of our uranium to Russia or something."

Fake news.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

"When do the indicted Russians go to trial to prove their guilt?"

That's it guys. Pack it in. Checkmate.

Dave Dubya said...

WOW.

Majormajor is a Jr. Putin Puppet, a willing agent of Putin, praising Putin's Puppet for selling out our country.

MM is now a Russian agent. A useful idiot in Putin's pocket.

Dave Dubya said...

When do the indicted Russians go to trial to prove their guilt?

LOL!

When will Trump go to trial to prove his guilt?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"When do the indicted Russians go to trial to prove their guilt?" Majormajor (aka Comrad Chuck)

Their guilt has already been proven.

If, however, Putin is willing to extradite them to the United States for trial by jury -- so they may prove their innocence -- I'm sure our Department of Justice will accommodate him.

Chuck, are you an agent of the Russian Federation?

Majormajor said...

"Their guilt has already been proven. "

Really, so leftist no longer believe in innocent until proven guilty?

TB3
https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/Snopes-and-Facts

Snopes and Reliability

In a recent article, "The Daily Mail Snopes Story And Fact Checking The Fact Checkers," appearing on Forbes, Kalev Leetaru attempts to determine that reliability. Leetaru begins by referencing the tabloid nature of an earlier article that appeared on Daily Mail and saying that he expected David Mikkelson to refute the claims being made in the Daily Mail article whose lengthy title is "'Fact checking' website Snopes on verge of collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn't told its readers THOSE facts)."

Because no such refutation was forthcoming from Mikkelson, Leetaru engaged the Snopes founder himself through a series of emails. Leetaru was first stunned by the fact that the fact-checker began by hiding himself, his business practices, and even his hiring practices for the fact-checking Snopes site behind the secrecy of his divorce proceedings.

Leetaru continues to engage Mikkelson asking him about how he determines who was capable of doing the kind of fact-checking that would be required of a fact-checking site. Mikkelson remained vague and elusive, indicating that the Snopes staff includes a variety of individual talents. Leetaru then attempts to glean from Mikkelson what the hiring process involves, but again Mikkelson remaines unresponsive, making it quite clear that he actually has no significant set of standards by which to evaluate new hires.

While the Snopes site is likely to remain a mainstay in Internet fact-checking, some readers will continue to blindly accept even the most partisan articles as gospel. Hopefully, most readers will look in more than one place for answers to their fact-checking needs. Snopes is not the last word in accuracy, not by a long shot. As Kalev Leetaru shows, Snopes does not even have a reliable set of standards by which it checks its facts or by which it even hires those doing the checking.

Despite the site's About Snopes claims that the site "strives to be as transparent as possible," the proof is in the articles, in the convoluting of the analyses, and in the choices made for presentation, especially the misguided focus on satire.

In the site's section featuring Frequently Asked Questions, the question appears along with its answer:

Q: How do I know the information you’ve presented is accurate?
A: We don’t expect anyone to accept us as the ultimate authority on any topic.

That's good advice.

TB3 said...

Yes, oh, right. Snopes doesn't agree with your world view. Snopes is bad. Gotcha.

FactCeck?
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

Politifact?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/24/what-you-need-know-about-hillary-clinton-and-urani/

Or

https://money.cnn.com/2017/11/15/media/shepard-smith-fox-news-hillary-clinton-uranium-one/index.html

Or

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/fact-checking-trumps-claim-that-russia-paid-hillary-clinton-for-uranium/

Oh, but nothing of these are the Weekly Standard or The Blaze or whatever other blog with like minded views you decide to get your "news" from.

You're peddling conspiracy. Oh. And the actual answer to that Q&A question you cut and pasted from the article was:

A: We don’t expect anyone to accept us as the ultimate authority on any topic. Unlike the plethora of anonymous individuals who create and send the unsigned, unsourced e-mail messages that are forwarded all over the Internet, we show our work. The research materials we’ve used in the preparation of any particular page are listed in the bibliography displayed at the bottom of that page so that readers who wish to verify the validity of our information may check those sources for themselves.

https://www.snopes.com/frequently-asked-questions/

Ignoring things about your world doesn't make those things go away. That usually stops happening for people by the time they hit 2nd Grade. But, hey, props for your attempts to derail yet another conversation.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Really, so leftist [sp] no longer believe in innocent until proven guilty?" ~~ Majormajor (aka Chancellor Chuck)

Can't speak for leftists; only myself.

Chuck, the indictments have been made outlining the charges. Robert Mueller, tasked with investigating Russian interference in our electoral process, has evidence to prove guilt.

If you don't believe our legal system is legitimate, that's something you'll have to deal with on a personal level.

Most Americans agree with his findings.

Dave Dubya said...

Focus, people.

This is supposed to about Majormajor, not Putin's Puppet, right?

MM's cult is angry with the rest of the world because they can't control us.

I'll sum up how these authoritarian Trumpist Russian agents and useful idiots think about Liberals, Democrats, independents, smart conservatives, higher education, science, facts, our free press, and the few sane Republicans who oppose, or disagree with, Trump.

Putin's Loyal Jr. Puppets have this kind of C.R.A.P. buzzing between their ears and howling through their over active amygdalas:

"They are DISLOYAL!!

The press is the enemy of the people!!! Journalism, higher education, and science threaten our ignorance!!

FACTS are what Trump SAYS they are!!

Everyone not with us is against us!!! We despise them!! We CAN'T CONTROL them!!!!

They want nuclear war!!! They want a violent revolution!!!!!! They want to see Trump's TAX RETURNS!!!!

They are traitors to Putin and the Trump Reich!!

Lock them up, or kill them all!!!"




Amirite?

Majormajor said...

So Jefferson Davis's Guardian does not believe in innocent until proven guilty! Does he believe in the right to a speedy trial, oh wait a minute? You don't need a speedy trial as he believes the charges make the accused guilty. Neat, and very Stalin like.

If Mueller doesn't take up Putin's offer to interrogate the 12 he has indicted in Russia, does that mean Mueller is afraid of Putin as he doesn't want to put any Russians in jail? Or on trial? Maybe HE is Putin's puppet. After all if he REALLY wanted to find out if there was collusion in 2016 wouldn't it stand to reason he would go to all extremes to find the truth?

Control you Dave, nope, I could care less what you do as long as your actions and desired policies don't effect me. Sadly both do effect me, you seem incapable of live and let live. You support policies that do control and limit my liberty.

Gee TB3, my sources aren't as good as your sources? Or we can only use your sources? Derail another conversation cause I dared to question you? To quote Dave that sounds rather authoritarian of you.

Here's the conversation, when will Mueller put up or shut up? Why would he indict people he can't or won't take to trial? What happened to the right to a speedy trial? Are you in the least concerned that after 18 months all Mueller has is people he won't take to court?

What is your take on JG's belief that indictments are equal to guilt?

Majormajor said...

Say Dave you say you are "an old-fashioned American citizen who believes in our traditional values of freedom, truth, and justice. When I see our laws and government subverted" Does this mean you oppose San Francisco's registering non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, to register to vote in the November election for the city school board, as reported by The San Francisco Chronicle?

Dave Dubya said...

KomradMajor,

President Putin and his Big Puppet thank you for being a good Little Puppet!

You are brave and patriotic to be distracting and deflecting away from your Big Puppet's capitulation and humble service to his President Putin.

It is a busy time for Putin's Little Puppets, isn't it?

Well done, Komrad! Maybe we can find you a cute little Maria Butina type as a reward. Just don't fall in love, she'll be moving on to her NRA big shots soon. Busy girl, you know. Good conservative all-American type of Russian.

Is that a little tingle starting, komrad?

Dave Dubya said...

Speaking of NRA/Russian agent Maria Butina:

On the same day as a criminal complaint was unsealed against a Russian citizen accused of using the NRA as a conduit to influence U.S. political leaders on behalf of Russia, the Trump admin announced new rules that would allow the NRA to stop disclosing its donors.

Putin thanks his puppet for his service.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"What is your take on JG's belief that indictments are equal to guilt?" ~~ Majormajor (aka "Chucko Giggio")

Chuck, when I got back home I truly couldn't understand why you were so upset about me saying, "Their guilt has already been proven." I really couldn't.

Then I went back and reread what I wrote and realized why. The word "has" should have been "hasn't", as in, "Their guilt hasn't already been proven." It's sort of a double negative.

LOLOL

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"When asked by reporters at the start of a cabinet meeting whether he believed Russia was 'still targeting the US', Trump responded: 'No.'

The White House swiftly sought to clean up Trump’s comments by claiming the president was saying 'no' to taking questions from reporters.
" ~~ The Guardian, 18 July 2018


POSSIBLE SARAH SANDERS RESPONSES:

No, he said "go". The president has an overactive bladder and he needed to run to the bathroom.

No, he said "nice fro". The president spotted a good looking black reporter in the back of the room and was complimenting her.

No, he said "Joe". The president thought he was asked what he was drinking.

No, he said "grow". The president thought he was asked how a certain part of his anatomy responds when he fantasizes about Stormy Daniels.

No, he said "crow". The president thought the reporter asked what he ate for breakfast when dining with his national security advisers after returning to Washington.

No, he said "dough". The president thought the reporter asked what Putin promised to give him if he would agree to hand over state secrets.

No, he said "Glo". The president thought the reporter asked him the name of the skin product he uses to look so orange.

This is "Wednesday Donald Trump". Can't wait to hear what "Thursday Donald Trump" has to say.

LOLOLOL

TB3 said...

"Gee TB3, my sources aren't as good as your sources? Or we can only use your sources? Derail another conversation cause I dared to question you? To quote Dave that sounds rather authoritarian of you." -- MM

Projection. It's not derailing a conversation when I'm addressing the train wreck you cause with your diversions. It surprises me that the number of times you default to deflecting a conversation away from the topic that you act like you don't know what derailing is. Furthermore; You responded with the 'Snopes is bad' meme I often see in "Conservative" circles when it's presented as a refutation source. So I provided you other sources with similar findings. Go ahead and ignore, make excuses for, or outright deny multiple sources. Fine. I get it. Bubbles are fragile.

"Here's the conversation, when will Mueller put up or shut up? Why would he indict people he can't or won't take to trial? What happened to the right to a speedy trial? Are you in the least concerned that after 18 months all Mueller has is people he won't take to court?" -- MM

Life isn't an episode of Law and Order. Put up or shut up? He is putting up. Numerous indictments, a handfull of arrests. He is working and doing his job. This investigation is going faster than many expected. Hell, the Independent Counsel Investigation into Bill Clinton lasted four years.

"What is your take on JG's belief that indictments are equal to guilt?" -- MM

Indictments are formal accusations of a crime. A grand jury thought there was enough proof presented to them to demonstrate guilt of a crime. Stop being obtuse. I hope you come to defend migrant families allegedly entering this country illegally with as much zeal as you do a bunch of rich Russians.

"Say Dave you say you are "an old-fashioned American citizen who believes in our traditional values of freedom, truth, and justice. When I see our laws and government subverted" Does this mean you oppose San Francisco's registering non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, to register to vote in the November election for the city school board, as reported by The San Francisco Chronicle?" --

As a "Conservative" one would think you'd cheer for the exercise of local government making decisions for themselves and exercising their autonomy. Also; Suffrage for non-citizens is not some new idea. This country has a long and dynamic history of granting it, taking it away, and granting it again.

Majormajor said...

TB3 DOES support non citizens having the right to vote. That sure explains the left drive for open borders.

There is no guilt until found guilty by a trial, not a grand jury. But you know that.

I am only defending the legal system of our country not anything nor anyone other than that, and you know it. That you want guilt and I assume punishment based on a grand jury's decision with out a jury of ones peers smacks of Star Courts, which as a good leftist you support.

Dave Dubya said...

There is no guilt until found guilty by a trial, not a grand jury. But you know that.

So the Vegas shooter was not guilty of mass murder?

You are redefining words again. There is first guilt by deed, and then a legal conviction of guilt.

You are guilty of obfuscation.

TB3 said...

"TB3 DOES support non citizens having the right to vote. That sure explains the left drive for open borders." -- MM

MM does support extending constitutional rights to Russians who may or may not have meddled in our elections but not to people coming here for security and safety!

You live a charmed black and white life, MM. Things are so easily defined in your world.

Majormajor said...

Maria Butina: arrested for the same charges as have been leveled at Tony Podest and Manafort, acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

CNN yesterday on the Poppy Harlow show said “Would you concede that his administration’s actions against Russia — be it the sanctions, be it the selling of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine — are tough actions on Russia; arguably tougher actions on Russia, some would say, than the Obama administration’s?” Harlow asked Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.).

“We had to drag the White House kicking and screaming to impose sanctions on Russia … Of course, having a good relationship with a country is always in our interest.” Shorthand answer is YES.

Just some of the actions taken by the Trump administration that are hostile towards Russia include arming Ukraine with anti-tank missiles, inducting 13 Russian nationals, expelling 60 Russian diplomats and sanctioning seven Russian oligarchs with ties to Putin, closed the Russian consulate in Seattle.

Obama on the other sent a message to Putin to wait till after the election when he had more flexibility...I swear Leftist will not be happy until there is a war between the USA and Russia due to Hillary losing.

Majormajor said...

TB3 plays the race card.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"There is no guilt until found guilty by a trial, not a grand jury. But you know that." ~~ Majormajor (aka "double-standard Chuck")

Great! That settles it! Osama bin Laden and the 19 supposed hijackers are innocent!

Thank you, Chuck, for clarifying this!

Dave Dubya said...

MM applied his Authoritarian Tactic of "Race Card Accusation" to, "You live a charmed black and white life".

LOL! That's one for the files.

TB3 said...

"TB3 plays the race card." -- MM

Holy cow.

I say black and white and you see race. That says a lot about you. Dig those heels and tap that Victimhood card for extra mana, MM. You'll need it as you suffer through the delusion you force yourself into.

Majormajor said...

Hey, just following the rule of racism set by the left. More importantly we are now seeing that the left want open borders and give non citizens the right to vote.

Those are some real old fashion American values.

TB3 said...

At this point I have to assume you simply can't stop yourself and have compulsion issues. Keep living your life in the fear that comforts you. I'll remain comfortable in reality. I'll welcome you when you're ready to join the rest of us.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

The Love Story continues in the fall.

The puppet-master from the Russian Federation -- the country whose military attacked and burglarized the Democratic National Headquarters in an effort to thwart our electoral process and seat its favorite candidate -- has been invited to the perennial symbol of American democracy to continue the manipulation of his favorite useful idiot, Trumpo Giggio.

The lovefest of the dictator and the wanna-be-dictator continues.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"At this point I have to assume you simply can't stop yourself and have compulsion issues." ~~ TB3

TB3, Dave and I warned you about this sick bastard several months ago. As a previous commenter on a former post pointed out, "He ain't right."

Cult members never are.

TB3 said...

Maybe I am the one with compulsion issues for engaging MM.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Nope, keep going after him. Never let them win. That's how democracies are lost.

Like the demagogue he adores, stop the spin and always stick his nose in it. It's the only way he learns -- both of them. Logic and rationality only encourages more spin and nonsense.

Dave's explanation of their tactics (from a previous post) tells it all.

Dave Dubya said...

As long as he doesn't get too vile, and he often does, MM is here at my pleasure.

As you know, he loves the attention, and he provides us with an object lesson for all our studies of the authoritarian personality.

It's almost like he's here to show us how we are in the right, and why we should feel pretty good about ourselves.

For that, I thank him for his service.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"For that, I thank [Chuck] for his service." ~~ Dave Dubya

I know what you mean. If he ever got off his opioid addiction he wouldn't be half as much fun. ;-)

Okay, any bets on how long it'll take before Trumpo Giggio fires National Security Advisor Coats? Today?...or will it happen before the weekend is out?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Can't wait to hear what 'Thursday Donald Trump' has to say." ~~ Me

LOLOL

Well, he didn't disappoint on Thursday, did he?

Can't wait to see what "Friday Trump" brings... LOLOL

Majormajor said...

"sick bastard, opioid addiction, keep going after him".

I always think it's a sign of victory when JG and DD move on to the ad hominem.

H/T CV Hitchens

TB3 said...

Actually, that's good old fashioned name calling. For it to be an ad hominem, you'd have to be making an arguement.

Just the Facts! said...

You are a sick child molester TB3.

TB3 said...

Oh, man. Demonstrating that wonderful Christian love you profess to believe in. It's always Zero to Immaturity with you, isn't it?

Majormajor said...

No TB3 it's just "good old fashioned name calling."

Dave Dubya said...

"As long as he doesn't get too vile, and he often does..."

You are a sick child molester TB3.

That's our boy!

Whether it was MM getting worked up for "good old fashioned name calling", or he was "making an argument to be an ad hominem", I think he's a stable genius, myself.

TB3 said...

Is it good, though? Really? I don't even really think that example is old fashioned, either. It's kind of just name calling at this point.

Dave Dubya said...

MM was using his clown name again. Anything for attention.

Dave Dubya said...

All seriousness aside...I'm going to have to write another 'Putin and His Puppet" pre-summit prediction post. Hmm. "Putin and His Puppet: A Love Re-united".

Or will it be "Putin and His Puppet: Last Tearful Embrace". No. A love like this never dies before the Kompromat is revealed.

This time just before the election. Should be swell.

TB3 said...

Suggestions for sequel names:

: And the Chamber of Secrets
: Electric Boogaloo
: Take Manhatten
: The (Russian) Empire Strikes Back
: From Russia with Love
: The Sequel
: Bogus Journey
: The Color of Money

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"I'm going to have to write another 'Putin and His Puppet' pre-summit prediction post." ~~ Dave Dubya

and...

"Suggestions for sequel names:" ~~ TB3

Dave, may I suggest you run a contest and ask your loyal readership to submit title names for that Helsinki to Pennsylvania Avenue piece? Extending the olive branch, invite the dry-drunk to participate. Maybe even Mr. Paine will come out of seclusion to join the fun!

Make it like the MLB All-star Game balloting where you can vote up to several times a day.

Here's my first one: From Helsinki to Sink Hole: The Untold Story.

Majormajor said...

Here's my suggestion "Reset Button Revisited"

Jefferson's Guardian said...

If Trump moves back to Trump Tower at the conclusion of the fall summit, at least we'll know, for sure, one thing he gave away to Putin. ;-)

I heard a rumor that Putin's already getting new personalized stationary printed.

Majormajor said...

The Left is worried about Russians interfering in our elections but seem to have no problem allowing non citizens vote in elections.

Here's another suggestion for a title,

"I set a red line in the sand" 8/21/2012"

or

"I did not set a red line in the sand" 9/4/2013

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"The Left is worried about Russians interfering in our elections..." ~~ Majormajor

It doesn't bother the right that our electoral system is under attack and in serious jeopardy of producing invalid results.

TB3 said...

"It doesn't bother the right that our electoral system is under attack and in serious jeopardy of producing invalid results."

You'd think "Conservatives" and those that call themselves "Constitutionalists" would abhor the Russians perverting the sacred system of government that our Founders, in their infinite wisdom, set-up for us.

Turns out it's all a big baseball game for them. So long as they win. So short term, so short-sighted. I imagine it'd be a REAL national crisis if Clinton won and there was even the hint of outside meddlings. I can almost hear the chants and cries of "RIGGED"... oh wait. I'm sorry. I'm listening to a Trump rally in 2016 where they were laying the groundwork for just such an occurance. Huh.

Majormajor said...

"It doesn't bother the right that our electoral system is under attack and in serious jeopardy of producing invalid results" Sure as long as non citizens get to vote right JG?

How many voted were changed by the Russians? How many votes in CA will be cast by non citizens?
TB3 you need to get over it, Trump won. Talked about rigged, speak to Bernie about rigged elections.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Sure as long as non citizens get to vote right JG?" Majormajor (aka "mountain out of a mole-hill" Chuck)

Chuck, the problem of your so-called "non-citizens" voting is miniscule compared to: (1) the expanding number of U.S. citizens who are disenfranchised and kept out of the voting process; (2) the vast amount of money influencing voter preferences that comes from non-citizens due to Citizens United; and now (3) the obvious ability and proven fact that foreign governments are capable of infiltrating our electoral process through cyber-attacks.

Of course, rightwing extremists such as yourself do not care whether we have fair elections that can be verified and substantiated. Your only concern is that the right "wins" elections, whether legally or not. It's "win" at all costs -- even if it destroys the whole concept and premise of democracy.

As far as your claim that "non-citizens" voting sways elections in any way or in any form, you'll need to provide evidence to convince me. Otherwise, and as is customary with you, you're just pissin' in the wind.

But I know you enjoy the blowback.

Dave Dubya said...

Russian agents like MM are making Putin great again. They welcome his involvement in our elections and his leadership over our nation.

Just as Big Puppet Trump serves Putin, so do his Little Puppet Russian agents.

It's quite a thing to see in the end times of the United States and the new Failed States of America.

TB3 said...

Going on and on about non-citizen voting. MM himself quoted that SF was opening voting in local school board elections. Which, for some reason, he's intentionally misconstruing to imply we've got illegals swinging elections. Though he doesn't seem to care about the prospect of Russians swinging elections.

Majormajor said...

“We want very much to have a strong Russia because a strong, competent, prosperous, stable Russia is, we think, in the interests of the world.”

Clinton made the remark in an answer to a question by Vladimir Pozner during an interview in Russia for First Channel Television on March 19, 2010.

Democratic Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, the deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), claimed on Wednesday that America’s national borders create “an injustice” by keeping Mexican workers from traveling to the United States to look for higher-paying jobs.

Open borders, non citizens voting, a strong Russian, that's the America the left wants.

Dave Dubya said...

Only a fanatically loyal Russian agent like MM would compare Clinton's diplomatic courtesy to siding with Putin against two bi-partisan Senate committees, the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI and the CIA.

Putin's Little Puppets are very busy serving their master.

The American Right wants a junior dictator under Putin. The Left doesn't. There's the difference. Simple as that.

Majormajor said...

Hey Dave that is weakest, bullshit filled response you have given in months...Talk about a cult, its the cult of Hillary. "diplomatic courtesy" That's a crock. It was made by a fanatically loyal Russian named Clinton, not MM or a Trump supporter or a Republican or a conservative. It was made by a former First Lady, former Senator, former Secy of State, former former Democratic candidate for President.

Only a person who hates America would want open borders, non citizens voting, a strong Russian. Or would say tell Putin to be patience, after the election. Nice try on the deflection.
It's as simple as that.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Talk about a cult, its the cult of Hillary. 'diplomatic courtesy' That's a crock. It was made by a fanatically loyal Russian named Clinton..." ~~ Majormajor (aka "still obsessed with Hillary" Chuck)

Chuck, you're still ranting about Hillary Clinton, the non-president. Why?

Hillary had her own set of problems and was crooked as the day is long, but at least she wasn't crooked and an imbecile.

Because of you, and other right-wing extremists like you, we're saddled with the imperfect trifecta: a president who's crooked, a president who's an imbecile, and a president who's probably the most corrupt in the modern era.

I didn't even mention the most treasonous.

Majormajor said...

More left wing babble trying to deflect from the historical truth that it has been the left that has supported Russia since Armen Hammer and FDR.

DOJ Releases Carter Page FISA Applications, guess what? It shows FBI DID rely on Fake Dossier.

On May 19, 2017. Strzok sent a text to Page that said, "There’s no big there there”.

May 19, 2017 is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.

When Stzok was asked about the meaning of his text he declined to answer. Page however when asked said the message referred to the quality of the Russian case.

There is no big there there. Never was, never will be no matter how much the left wants it to be different.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

What is it now?...thirty-five indictments, so far, and counting?

"There is no there there"? That doesn't even mean anything, does it?

Thirty-five indictments, though, that means the noose is tightening. Thirty-five indictments. How many more before it becomes, as Sly Stone would have said, "a family affair"?

Thirty-five indictments -- and the best are yet to be.

And the Cohen flip, which will surely happen, along with this week's Manaport trial about to kick off, this is going to be a "worst ever week" for the "orange president".

Enjoy the imbecile's Tweet-storm tirade. It should be entertaining.

Majormajor said...

"indictments" a formal charge or accusation of a serious crime. Not a trial, not a court finding the accused guilty or innocent. An accusation.

To quote Strzok there is no there there, no evidence, just accusations of Trump colluding with the Russians. There is no there there. Your dreams of Trump being impeached are like one of Stalin's 5 year plans, only a desperate fool would believe they would be successful.

Dave Dubya said...

MM is using the Authoritarian Rulse: Define and Deflect. Indictments are based on probable cause and facts, while MM's accusations come from his lower posterior.

The Trump Tower meeting met all definitions of collusion and even conspiracy to violate election laws. Trump's behavior meets all conditions of obstruction of justice as well.

Only Putin's Little Puppets can't see it. Because they are Putin's Little Puppets.

TB3 said...

Hard to see something when certain people won't take the sunglasses off their closed eyes.

Dave Dubya said...

Here's a message Putin's Puppets got loud and clear.

Putin knows his Puppets well. He name dropped Soros just for his base. (That would his Puppet's base.)

"You have a lot of individuals in the United States—take George Soros, for instance, with multi-billion capitals—but it doesn’t make his position, his posture, the posture of the United States.”

Alex Jones gleefully bobbed his head at the video, getting a tingle up his leg, enthralled by the latest Russian Republican Leader.

"Soros bad, Trump good". Did his puppets get the message?

I knew they would.

Majormajor said...

"There is no there there."
Peter Strzok

The Carter Page FISA Application.
John Hinderaker

First, the FISA application expresses confidence that Page was an agent of the Russian government, and engaged in criminal activity, but to date Carter Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong. Regardless how much the left wants an indictment to be a finding of guilt in American at least for now, that's not how it works.

Second, the FISA application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best. Glenn Simpson, is the head of Fusion GPS. Source #1 is Christopher Steele. The DOJ’s statement that “the FBI speculates that the identified U.S person [Simpson] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign” could only have been an intentional effort to deceive the FISA judge. The FBI was perfectly well aware that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Simpson through their lawyers, and the purpose of doing so was to attack candidate Donald Trump. References to “speculation” about “likely” motives are entirely dishonest.

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. Claiming as found in the FISA application that The same press like CNN International that is a source of USA news for China, Japan, etc. Example would be an article written in July 2016 claiming that Trump organization worked to prevent a plank in the GOP platform supporting the Ukraine by giving them the weapons to be used against Russian, as Obama administration had done.

Notwithstanding such speculation in the Democratic Party press, the Trump administration has, in fact, agreed to send a $200 million military aid package to Ukraine. So the Carter Page warrant was obtained, at least in part, on the basis of groundless speculation in anti-Trump newspapers.

Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails....

I am sure DD will again ignore and deflect from the facts in the FISA transcripts because he is so blinded with hate for the elected President of the United States and hates the very idea of America becoming great. He is not a traditional American.

Majormajor said...

ICE renamed Planned Citizenship, immediately absolving it of all criticism

TB3 said...

Back to throwing slop against the wall to see what works best to take people down a topic MM feels like he's less informed in. You can tell by the c&ped opinion piece.

Dave Dubya said...


MM is done dumping his CRAP articles. We've been through this like "Goundhog Day".

He knows what happens next. We all do.
--

CNN: The FBI's interest in Page predated its knowledge of the opposition research dossier and say it was not the dossier and the Page FISA warrant that prompted the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into Russia, but rather an earlier conversation that former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos had with an Australian diplomat about alleged Russian dirt on Clinton.
--
COLLUSION.

Majormajor said...

Is that the truth or did you get it from CNN?

Majormajor said...

If There Was Collusion, Schiff Would Have Leaked It...

Dave Dubya said...

Komrad Major needs more Pravda.

Komrad Major is using Authoritarian Rules Deflect and Distort for another Russian agent again. Of course it is because MM is a Junior Puppet of Putin.

While our Russian agent Komrad Major attacks CNN on behalf of Putin and his Puppet, Page's own words tell us he's a Russian agent.

In a letter written by Russian agent Page in August 2013 he described himself as having “had the privilege to serve as an informal adviser to the staff of the Kremlin” in preparation for the G-20 summit of the world’s leading and emerging economies.

When an oily American brags about "advising the Kremlin", A FISA court could and should listen in on the Russian Agent and his talks with the Kremlin.

Komrad Major knows Page is a real patriot, like Putin's Puppet and all his Junior Puppet Russian agents.









Jefferson's Guardian said...

Now the Twitter twit is raising hell with Iran again. I suspect it's meant to distract from his totally failed North Korean summit last month.

Apparently the twit-in-chief is fuming at how he's been played as a fool by North Korea, which is quite amusing given everyone already knew this would happen -- less his imbecilic base, of course.

Or the distraction could be prompted by the ever-increasing revelations tying key campaign officials to Russia. The Mueller probe is closing in on the mafia-like Trump family.

I have a feeling the next phase of indictments are going to hit too close to home for the orange maniacal demagogue and he'll fire Mueller in an exchange of metaphorical gunfire reminiscent of the gunfight at the OK Corral.

Who wins is anybody's guess, but it will not be the people of the United States of America.

TB3 said...

The actions of a stable genius, who by the way didn't collude no one is reporting that, you know.

Remember we are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death. Now excuse us while we throw around demented words of violence and death.

Dave Dubya said...

Now it's Iran again. This is dangerous because neocon Bolton is in the mix. No wonder they are projecting this crazed war fever on those who call out his betrayal to Putin.

Russian agent Komrad Major and his fellow Junior Puppets now have "proof" to support all their delusional claims:

Putin's Puppet tweeted: "The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!"

Finally, it's settled.

Majormajor said...


Dare you to read this.
https://spectator.org/did-the-fbi-lie-to-the-fisa-court/


"should listen in on the Russian Agent and his talks with the Kremlin." Podesta brothers?

Majormajor said...

IG Report: the FBI broke the law, but since there was no criminal intent, no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.

TB3 said...

I can't read it, MM. The shine off of your foil hat is preventing me.

Seriously. Do YOU even read these things? And think about them for just a minute? You've been duped. Come to terms with it.

What law did the FBI break, exactly? It's so funny going through the internet this weekend and seeing so many people regurgitating the same stuff MM regurgitates on these blogs I see him trolling. And folks on the left are the ones accused of spouting off talking points? Projection, man.

Dave Dubya said...

As Komrad Major joins in promoting the victimization of Putin's Puppets, ethics watchdogs are noting:

Dear Congressmen Nunes, Jordan & Meadows: the Carter Page FISA materials show you lied about the validity of the warrant, the role of the Steele dossier, and the DOJ/FBI. That violated House (Ethics) Rule XXIII by failing to “reflect creditably on the House.” Guys,this ain’t over – Norm Eisen, Citizens for Ethics

Dave Dubya said...

Komrad Major’s fellow Republican making America racist again:

State Rep. Jason Spencer (R-Woodbine) of Georgia was featured on Sacha Baron Cohen’s “Who Is America?” Sunday night shouting racial slurs, flashing his naked buttocks, and making fun of Chinese people.

Baron Cohen, “disguised” as Israeli terrorism expert Col. Erran Morad, convinced Spencer to participate in an anti-terrorism training video meant for elected officials to learn how to protect themselves from terrorists.

“All you damn sand-niggers over in the Middle East, we are tired of you coming to America and we are tired of you trying to threaten us,” Spencer says in a post-credits video titled, “A Message to Terrorists from Rep. Jason Spencer.”

In addition to brandishing a knife, Spencer continues his rampage: “We will cut off your dick, you understand? We will take your dick and we will shove it in your mouth. How are you going to rape children and women without a dick?”

Spencer is currently serving his fourth term in the Georgia house.

The video continues to get even more insane with Spencer being directed to pretend to be “homo” to frighten terrorists because, as Baron Cohen’s Morad informs him, terrorists are afraid of homosexuals. Spencer proceeds to bare his entire ass and run backward towards Baron Cohen’s Morad ― all while yelling, “America!”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rep-jason-spencer-screams-n-word-brandishes-bare-butt-on-who-is-america_us_5b5545b1e4b0de86f48e5a5e

Majormajor said...

Norm Eisen, Citizens for Ethics
Do ethics for Norm include the corrupt way the DNC and Clinton stole the nomination from Sanders?

TB3 said...

One day, if you're lucky enough to meet him, maybe you can ask him, MM.

Majormajor said...

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result.

The Special Counsel’s investigation is ongoing and there will be no comments from the Special Counsel at this time.

Assistant Attorney General John Demers is here with me today because we intend to transition responsibility for this indictment to the Justice Department’s National Security Division while we await the apprehension of the defendants.

I want to caution you that people who speculate about federal investigations usually do not know all of the relevant facts. We do not try cases on television or in congressional hearings. Most anonymous leaks are not from the government officials who are actually conducting these investigations.

We follow the rule of law, which means that we follow procedures and reserve judgment. We complete our investigations and we evaluate all of the evidence before we reach any conclusion.

That is how the American people expect their Department of Justice to operate and that is how our department is going to operate. In our justice system, everyone who is charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. It should go without saying that people who are not charged with a crime also are presumed innocent."

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein
July 2018

Read the 1st paragraph again, "There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result."

And the last paragraph, "In our justice system, everyone who is charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. It should go without saying that people who are not charged with a crime also are presumed innocent."

I'll try to paraphrase for TB3 by quoting FBI agent Peter Strzok
"there is no there there"

TB3 said...

I look forward to finding out for sure. I also look forward to your next non sequitor. Where you going next, MM? Going to pull out a 'It was actually Hillary who colluded'? Or maybe we can talk about how our President wrote in all CAPITAL LETTERS in a tweet to Iran like how you'd expect a stable genius to tweet? We can talk about the judge in the Manafort case and how they granted immunity to some witnesses? Or we can go back to talking about the Russia Investigation and how two weeks ago Russia didn't do anything to us, then they did, then it was a hoax created by Obama. Where to, MM? Where to? You're guiding me on this crazy train. Where's our next stop?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Where to, MM? Where to? You're guiding me on this crazy train. Where's our next stop?" ~~ TB3

Next stop...the Twilight Zone.

Majormajor said...



Please note that TB3 on July 23, 2018 at 3:27 PM brought up H. Clinton and Russia. Why, I haven't a clue as she isn't President, LOL.