Tuesday, February 28, 2017

Vision Of Greatness

Trump has spoken and America beheld his splendid vision of greatness...all arrayed upon Dear Leader’s glorious vague promises.

We got what we expected in Dear Leader’s speech to Congress tonight.

We saw him pointing his finger at Democrats, blaming them for everything wrong with America. He glowered at them for not following his agenda, and promised he could fix every major problem we face if Democrats would just join together with him.

The usual “depleted military” will get more money...and win wars. Drugs and crime and chaos were invoked. Law and order is coming. Cops and law enforcement got special praise.

A grieving military widow and crime victims were the best props, of course.

Trump proceeded to show us just how much he really sympathizes with crime victims. Well, special crime victims anyway.

Trump has decreed a Homeland Security Office called V.O.I.C.E. for Victims Of Immigration Crime Encounters. Very compassionate, at least to his special few prop victims. Immigrant victims shot by Right Wing nuts, not so much. 

To balance that, he wants no further terror-related investigations of Right Wing extremists. 

He fixed that problem real fast didn't he? From now on only Muslims are terrorists. Got it?

Before Trump’s address I stated, "Trump will parade victims of immigrant crime tonight. Will he mention the hate crime murder in Kansas? He should, but I highly doubt it. He always speaks to his base, and his baseness."

I was correct on the first and last points.

It was good to hear him address the Kansas murder.

“Recent threats targeting Jewish Community Centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week’s shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all its forms."

Very good. I wonder what prompted him to do the right thing for a change? A FreePress perhaps?

Trump had come under criticism for not being more forceful in denouncing a wave of anti-Semitic incidents and other hate incidents since his election. Although a White House spokesman released a statement on Tuesday denouncing the Kansas shooting, the Kansas City Star called for Trump to address the attack personally.

“During such moments of crisis, people look to the president for strength and guidance,” the newspaper’s editorial board wrote on Monday. “They need to hear their moral outrage articulated, the condemnation of a possible hate crime and the affirmation that the U.S. values everyone’s contributions, whether you’re an immigrant or native-born.”


Journalism can be a call to conscience. No wonder Republicans hate it.

24 comments:

Majormajor said...

When I saw the Demorat women march in, dressed in all white, I thought it was the Women's Auxiliary of the KKK.

;-)

Dave Dubya said...

Aw, Chuck thought it was the Women's Auxiliary of the KKK, then realized they were not his kind of women. ;-)

Majormajor said...

Dave,

President Trump does not need help from Demorats to full fill his promise to Make America Great Again. If the Demorats continue to do nothing they will be perceived to want open borders, ignoring Obamacare's failure and it's lack of support from the majority of Americans. They will be perceived as not wanting to end the flow of illegal drugs across our borders, to be opposed to our nation's infrastructure being rebuilt. What best sums the status of the Democrat Party is their response to President Trump's speech, where former KY Governor called himself a Republican. ;-)

Is that who you want to be identified as?

If you really hate what President Trump is doing, when are you going to divest your investments, instead of riding the "Trump Bump"? Put your money where your mouth is.

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck,

Democrats "will be perceived to want open borders" only by dupes of far Right fake news and propaganda.

You act as if illegal immigration wasn't on the decline during Obama's terms. You act as if Obama hadn't urged for infrastructure projects, but was obstructed by Republicans.

Put your money where your mouth is.

That's funny, coming from someone afraid to take my bet on the Kansas Trumpist murderer.

Dave Dubya said...

President Trump does not need help from Democrats to full fill his promise to Make America Great Again.

Good. Let's see what happens with that. And if he fails, he will blame liberals of course.

"Personal responsibility" was never Dear Leader's thing. He blames Obama and "the generals" for the failed SEAL mission.

He whines about being left a "mess", when the economy was way better than what Bush left Obama. He's a crybaby. Poor wittow Donnie. But he can "fix everything", amirite?

T. Paine said...

"Journalism can be a call to conscience. No wonder Republicans hate it."

Yes, because everyone knows that ONLY Democrats have a real conscience. (assuming you agree with their brand of identity politics and intolerance of conservative American ideals.) Otherwise their consciences will dictate that you are vile and worthy only of derision and demonization for being sexist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and supporting of the U.S. Constitution in all of its parts. We will have none of that in this progressive and enlightened land that Messiah Obama bequeathed to us... especially that last part about supporting the constitution. What a bunch of anachronistic hicks, huh Dave?!

Good Lord...

Dave Dubya said...

TP,
You're right. It's not just Republicans who hate journalism. Crooked Democrats do too. And you have done your share of demonizing our free press as well.

Trump and Kommisar Bannon of Breitbart and Goldman Sachs are the only acceptable, and by definition politically correct, source of truth now.

Exhibit A:

Washington (CNN)Lamar Smith(R) the chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee is asking Americans to trust the information they get from the President over the news produced by the media.

"The national liberal media won't print that, or air it or post it," Smith said. "Better to get your news directly from the President. In fact, it might be the only way to get the unvarnished truth."


As everybody knows, only Trump speaks the "unvarnished truth", amirite? In case one is clueless about totalitarianism, that is.

intolerance of conservative American ideals

Because conservatives tolerate liberal ideals of government of, by, and for the people, instead of government of Exxon/Mobil, by Goldman Sachs, and for the Kochs, aka the Trump Administration?

Government of Exxon/Mobil, by Goldman Sachs, and for the Kochs has always been the choice of conservative voters.

Good Lord indeed.

T. Paine said...

"Crooked Democrats"? Isn't that redundant? :)

And you are damned right I have demonized the press. Most of the press is lazy, complacent, incompetent, and agenda driven. Hard hitting objective journalism is an anachronism today. Should they be holding Trump and every elected official accountable? Damn straight they should! Just like they should always be doing for everyone regardless of political affiliation. Despite their penchant for bias and creation of "fake news", Trump's administration should NOT be banning certain members of the press from the White House briefings. That is very troubling indeed.

Next, many liberals don't want a government of, by, and for the people. They only want a government that agrees with their hyper-leftist, identity-politics, and special interest group agendas.

And again, the whole Goldman Sachs nonsense rings hollow after Obama appointed Tim Geitner as his Treasury Secretary. Further, AGAIN, the Kochs do not personally support Trump and were actually very vocal in their displeasure of him during the campaign. More fake news from the blogosphere I guess...


Dave Dubya said...

Ah, the certainty of belief.

Next, many liberals don't want a government of, by, and for the people. They only want a government that agrees with their hyper-leftist, identity-politics, and special interest group agendas.

There you go again with the famous “We know what liberals think more than THEY do”, BS. I speak for myself, and what I know to be true of like minded others, if I may sir. Liberals happen to think “We the People” are a special interest group. Don’t you?

Do not the Military Industrial Complex, private prisons, the Kochs, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the NRA and the Chamber of Commerce also represent “special interest group agendas”? They effectively drown out most liberal and moderate voices because they have the most “Free Speech Money™”. Can you understand climate change denial might just be another “special interest group agenda”? I’ve shown ALL your climate change deniers to be sources paid by Big Oil and the Kochs, mostly through the the Heartland Institute. Do I need to show you that again?

Have a look at this:

Shell made a film about climate change in 1991 (then neglected to heed its own warning)

The film narrator asks, “Whether or not the threat of global warming proves as grave as the scientists predict, is it too much to hope that it might act as the stimulus, the catalyst, to a new era of technical and economic cooperation? Our numbers are many and infinitely diverse, but the problems and dilemmas of climatic change concern us all.”

Oil giant Shell has spent millions of dollars lobbying against measures that would protect the planet from climate catastrophe. But thanks to a film recently obtained by The Correspondent, it’s now clear that their position wasn’t born of ignorance. Shell knows that fossil fuels put us all at risk – in fact, they’ve known for over a quarter of a century.

Climate of Concern, a 1991 educational film produced by Shell, warned that the company’s own product could lead to extreme weather, floods, famines, and climate refugees, and noted that the reality of climate change was "endorsed by a uniquely broad consensus of scientists."

The question, ladies and gentlemen, is what did Shell know and when did they know it. The Correspondent would like to enter into evidence Exhibit A: Climate of Concern.


Do you also dispute these facts and call it “fake news”?

Dave Dubya said...

the whole Goldman Sachs nonsense rings hollow after Obama appointed Tim Geitner as his Treasury Secretary.

I’m aware of that. Thank you for confirming my point that Obama was a moderate corporatist. Unless you think Wall Street is “socialist” or some such con-sense.

AGAIN, the Kochs do not personally support Trump and were actually very vocal in their displeasure of him during the campaign. More fake news from the blogosphere I guess...

AGAIN, you must have missed, or ignored, where I noted how much the Kochs supported Pence and many of Trump’s cronies, as well as the Republican Party in general. Did you read what I wrote? Is this “fake news”, really? Kindly prove it, if you can.

Trump's administration should NOT be banning certain members of the press from the White House briefings. That is very troubling indeed.

Very much so. Glad you agree a serious line is being crossed. Is this still “Constitutional” in your judgment? Or does totalitarian seem more apt? What if Obama did that? Or what if Obama did, and said, HALF of what Trump has done and said? Do you think Republicans and conservatives can’t have double standards? IOKIYAR seems the rule.

The question you might ask yourself is, “Do I trust Trump more than CNN, and major print journalism?” Your “liberal media/fake news” dogma indicates the former. Identity politics, anyone? When journalism is demonized, much of the truth is rejected out of hand, while allowing the loudest demagogues and ideologues to fill the vacuum. Not good for freedom, democracy and a representative republic, but great for Trump and other authoritarians.

Many of us are subject to confirmation bias. We should be wary of this and take the time to seek the facts.

I still say both Republican and Democratic parties can go away, and we’d be a better a country for it.

T. Paine said...

Hey, I only report what "liberals think" based upon what many of them have said, written, or agitated for in congress. I understand that you don't always march lock step with all of their beliefs. Again, I am using generalities in assuming the typical position of the average liberal on the street.

Next, I find it interesting that you think everyone that denies the certainty of global warming is lying because they are "all financed by big oil". What about the fact that a vast majority of those that do believe in AGW are all funded by universities and government grants? If global warming, or climate change, or whatever their marketing department is calling it today, turns out to be false, then they lose their funding and grants. Yeah, they have no stake in this farce either, huh?

"Obama was a moderate corporatist."

Can't... stop... laughing...

Only in a world where economics, civics, history, and the rule of law are no longer taught or acknowledged would Obama ever be considered as such. The fact that you claim otherwise is very telling of just how truly far to the left you really are, my friend! :)

Continuing, the Kochs support of Pence is not the same thing as supporting Trump. It is not the same thing as supporting some of the people that Trump has asked to serve. They do not like Trump. I even seem to recall them contemplating voting for Hillary instead of him due to their dislike of him. I wonder if that would have made you like them even a little bit?

As for Trump banning certain media from the White House, what more can I say. I think it is dangerous, foolish, and yes... smacking of authoritarianism that I would expect more from the Democrats than the Republicans based on recent history. It is NOT okay that Trump has done so and I condemn him for it.

"The question you might ask yourself is, 'Do I trust Trump more than CNN, and major print journalism?' "

The answer is no. I do not trust either of them and require corroboration of any significant story or point either Trump or CNN is trying to make accordingly.


"I still say both Republican and Democratic parties can go away, and we’d be a better a country for it."

Ah, cheers to you Dave! We end on a good note in total agreement, my friend!

Dave Dubya said...

TP,
I think you pretended not to notice the film by Shell...amirite? I understand. It could be a shock to your belief system. It’s not the only case of earlier oil company research on the subject of climate. You probably think this is fake news. You’d rather embrace your belief in a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists than the idea of a scientific, published, peer reviewed process and consensus..well, apart from those who really do have the political and economic agenda.

I get it. Such are yours and the Republicans’ politically correct (over scientifically correct) beliefs.

Hey, I only report what "liberals think" based upon what many of them have said, written, or agitated for in congress.

As noted, the certainty of belief. You reported, “many liberals don't want a government of, by, and for the people.”

WOW. OMG. WTF. ETC. ???

May we have a peek at some of those “many liberals who don't want a government of, by, and for the people”, if you please.

Or otherwise, just please. Stop with the patently absurd, and ridiculously false, accusation.

Just be honest for a moment, and admit you cannot show us “many liberals who don't want a government of, by, and for the people.”

But then again, you’ve demonized liberals so long you must actually believe in such demons of the over-active amygdala. I try to understand where you come from, brother. I cannot fault you for it.

These “many liberals” exist only in biased and misinformed beliefs within a mindset held as infallible truth.

I think you may have needed to throw out that weird accusation as defense against the actual reality of the heavily Koch funded Republican government of Exxon/Mobile, by Goldman Sachs, and for the Kochs.

But enough of that. We agree to disagree for that is who we are.

I bear you no ill feelings, but a friendship of the heart. Biochemical, frequency resonance, or whatever notwithstanding. ;-)

Majormajor said...

T.P.

Why waste your time trying to reach middle ground with DD. He has yet to even acknowledge your point unless you agree with him first. There is no middle ground, nothing else proves this fact better than Michael Moore.

www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/sickness-man-michael-moore-identifies-most-revolting-moment-trumps-big-speech

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck,

As a loyal Republican and true believer you are projecting YOUR lack of middle ground.

Just in this thread TP and I agree on the following.

"I still say both Republican and Democratic parties can go away, and we’d be a better a country for it."

And this:

"You're right. It's not just Republicans who hate journalism. Crooked Democrats do too."

Not to mention I agree with TP, and even you, on our Second Amendment right to possess firearms. We differ on the degree it should extend, but support the basic right. For example, I see no need for 30 round mags, flame throwers and RPG's for private use. Maybe you think you should have the right to have a nuclear submarine in your basement? We would differ there. TP would even find middle ground with me on that one.

How's racist Komrad Jefferson Beauregard Sessions(A classic neo-confederate white supremacist name if I ever saw one) doing now? Looks like he committed the felony of perjury. It may be OK to suppress black voters and lie to the public, but it's not OK to lie to fellow Republicans, amirite?

No wonder you want to whine about Michael Moore's accurate observations.

Majormajor said...

Dave,

In dealing with you there is no "middle ground", unless one walks away from their core principals. While you expect others to meet you, I have yet to see where in your debates you have left any of your core principals in an effort to meet in the "middle".

Show me one time where in a debate your mind has been CHANGED. I can't find one, maybe you can.

Liberals are following the path of "moderate corporatist" Obama, per the NYT.

dailycaller.com/2017/03/01/confirmed-obama-sabotaged-trumps-transition-to-the-white-house/

That you would believe Obama is a moderate is an eye opener into just how far extreme left you are and how uncompromising you and your peers are.

Why should anyone to the right of you (which BTW, is the vast majority of Americans) move to the left to meet you when you have yet to budge one inch right?

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck,

Unlike a blindly loyal, partisan ideologue, my mind changes when the facts tell me I'm in error.

I've denounced Obama when he went against our constitution. Drone killing of citizens without trial being one example.

You, on the other hand, cannot criticize or admit to ANY Republican wrongdoing or falsehood.

This by definition leaves you completely out of any "middle" ground. You are in your far Right end zone and cannot come out into the field of facts and fair play. You don't even know where the 50 yard line is. Hint: Obama is closer to it than you are. Obamacare originated in the Right's Heritage Foundation.

Now you link to a far Right whiner, crying about Obama initiating an investigation of Russian interference with our election. How unpatriotic is that, Komrad Chuck?

As Dear Leader said, "Russia, if you are listening..."

They listened to Sessions, didn't they, Komrad?


T. Paine said...

No, Dave, they did not listen to Sessions. He met with many foreign dignitaries from over a dozen nations in his role as a senator and ranking member of the Armed Services Committee last year alone. He claims he discussed pertinent issues then and not the campaign. Unless credible evidence is presented otherwise, I am going to assume he is telling the truth. I know that most Democrats will assign guilt simply because he is a Republican though. Evidently, you seem to be one of them, Dave. Or were you simply listening to the unbiased corporate media sources again? :)

Dave Dubya said...

TP,

Please. You will only degrade your credibility defending the Trumpists.

No, Dave, they did not listen to Sessions.

You're saying he spoke with them, but they didn't listen? You really are drifting to the absurd lately. Please be honest with us and yourself. He met a known Russian spy all while KNOWING the Russian interference in our election was being investigated. Again I'd ask you what you'd think if the situation was reversed by party. We know damn well you'd be outraged, and for good reason.

I am going to assume he is telling the truth

That is naive as can be. He lied under oath.

I know you want this to be fake news:

The First 100 Lies: The Trump Team’s Flurry Of Falsehoods

The president and his aides succeeded in reaching the mark in just 36 days.

And you want to trust them? That would be your authoritarian follower nature.

Trump and his Trumpists lie. They lie so frequently that it is foolish to accept their word without question. Sessions lied under oath by not acknowledging his contact with Russians.

Period.

But when Bill Clinton met Lynch in that plane, Whooooo boy! The outrage.

But IOKIYAR and they are Russians!!

I know that most Democrats will assign guilt simply because he is a Republican though.

Bullshit. Guilt is assigned after they are caught in their lies and deceptions. Calls for Sessions to recuse himself are now bi-partisan. There's your middle.

The fact the racist liar hasn't recused himself after all this has been revealed proves he's an untrustworthy, unethical asshole. But you can't see the arrogance in that guy, can you?

But go ahead and trust those jerks. Putin wins again. America loses. And to think, cons called liberals "useful idiots" under Russian influence. The irony probably escapes them.

America is begging for self destruction from the most corrupt and dishonest Administration ever.











Dave Dubya said...

Then there’s this bit about Donald Trump Jr. meeting with a pro-Russia group.

Three weeks before Election Day, Donald Trump Jr. left the campaign trail and the country to speak at a private dinner in Paris organized by an obscure pro-Russia group that promotes Kremlin foreign policy initiatives and has since nominated Russian President Vladimir Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize.

A key organizer of the event later told reporters she flew to Moscow to brief a senior Russian official about the session.

The White House referred question about the president’s son to the Trump Organization. A spokeswoman for the Trump business did not respond to questions from ABC News about why Donald Trump Jr. flew to France for the session during a critical phase of the presidential campaign, who arranged for him to attend, whether he was paid, what was discussed or if anyone vetted the group before he went.

The group sponsoring the session, the Center of Political and Foreign Affairs (CPFA), was founded by a wealthy French businessman and his partner, who are reported to have made major investments in Russia.

“They are openly linked with the Russians,” said Renaud Girard, a French opinion writer who served as the moderator of the session Trump attended. “They don’t hide it at all.”



Wake up and smell the borscht, Komrads.

Dave Dubya said...

Say is it true, or fake news, that the Trump transition team canceled Ethics Training sessions for the staff?

I guess they're just too moral and ethical to bother with such a waste of time and effort.

T. Paine said...

Not that facts matter and it is obvious that all Republicans are automatically guilty racist Russian sympathizers until pilloried and burned at the stake thereby showing their innocence, but Sessions said he would recuse himself from any such investigation.

Further, he provided the context of his meeting with the Russian ambassador. I have no reason to believe otherwise. As he stated, as a ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, HIS JOB required that he routinely met with dozens of foreign ambassadors and dignitaries over the last year.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/02/ag-jeff-sessions-recuses-himself-from-all-investigations-into-trump-campaign/

As for Bill Clinton meeting AG Lynch, that is the very act of trying to influence the prosecutor. The fact that you think he "coincidentally" met Lynch on an airport tarmac in Phoenix and boarded her plane simply to discuss how the grandkids were doing shows your true belief in the Kool Aid gang and naivety, my friend. I readily acknowledge and admit that Trump is a liar. Why is it that you don't acknowledge that Bill and Hillary are congenital liars too?

The only thing I can imagine worse than a Trump presidency, is a Hillary presidency.

Dave Dubya said...

Why is it that you don't acknowledge that Bill and Hillary are congenital liars too?

I don't dispute that. I'm not naively taking them at their word like you are with the Trumpists.

How about we compare the number of lies in their respective first 40 days? Sound fun?

Sessions lied. It's on tape. He needs to go. I don't know why you tolerate all their lies.

T. Paine said...

Session did NOT lie. He did not talk to the Russian ambassador about the campaign. He discussed their illegal annexation of the Crimea and armed incursion into Ukraine, which Obama ignored basically.

Dave Dubya said...

Ah, the old "I don't recall" lie. No problem.

And about Ukraine.... see newer post.