Tuesday, October 10, 2023

I Wish...

 


I hate terrorism and condemn Hamas. I also hate fascism and condemn the Netanyahu regime.

I wish there were no Hitlers, Putins, Kims, Ayatollahs, Mohammed bin Salmans, Dick Cheneys, or Trumps.

I wish there was no such thing as radical Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or Muslim fundamentalism and nationalism.

I wish there were no such terror organizations like Hamas, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and ISIS. I wish there were no such thing as Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, the KKK, and other American neo-Nazi groups. But they are emboldened by the party of Trump, as we witness open insurrection against our democracy, and Blacks, American Jews and Mexican Americans gunned down.

I wish it were true that Palestinians are not being forced from their homes, and there were no illegal Israeli settlements. I wish it were true that Palestinian citizens who have the right to vote are free from discriminatory policies and actions.

The fact is not all Palestinians ARE Israeli citizens. 

I wish people would try to understand why Jimmy Carter sees apartheid policies in Israel.

I wish there was no systemic racism in the US. I wish we didn't have the party of Trump that sees CRT and "anti-white racism" as the real threat, instead of poverty and racism against minorities.

I also wish it were true that African Americans, who have the right to vote, are never subjected to "driving while Black" police stops and harassment.

I wish having "equal rights" means equal treatment and equal justice under law.

I wish it were true that Native Americans were not slaughtered and forced onto reservations only to see their homelands stolen and children taken from them and forced into white indoctrination schools.

By today's standards Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse were the "terrorists" of their time, weren't they?

I wish I knew how to tell Native Americans why Israeli Jews have the right to evict others to reclaim ancestral lands but they do not.

I wish the human race would stop blaming victims instead of the authoritarian rulers who abuse their power.

I wish the human species would evolve beyond authoritarianism into expanding and into developing education, tolerance, understanding, consciousness and conscience instead of regressing into ignorance, fear and bigotry.

I wish I had more answers than wishes...

91 comments:

Les Carpenter said...

Three things...

1) You get it
2) You wish for reality as it should and could be
3) Which is to say, i think, you wish human ignorance would end.

Perhaps in another 2600 years or so. I'm doubtfull.

BTW, religion is about control. Spirituality on the other hand is about so very much more. And it is the monotheistic religions that continue to grease the ignorance.

TOM said...

To all the leftists, and other idiots who are blabbering tht the $6 Billion that was given to the Iranian and was supposed to be being held in Qatar, can't go to Iran, this thread is especially for you.

Are the current attacks against Israel due to the actions of the Biden administration ? The answer is a clear cut YES.

After 2 years of Trump CUTTING aid to the Palestinian authority (aka Hamas), Biden reversed all that, and increased aid to the Palestinians.. And on top of that gave the 6 Billion dollars to Iran. Enough to buy all the military hardware Biden inexpicably (until now) left behind in Afghanistan, twice over.

On 23 March 2018, Trump signed the Taylor Force Act into law, which cut about a third of US foreign aid payments to the PA,[79] until the PA ceases making payment of stipends to terrorists and their surviving families.[80][81]

Soon afterward, Australia followed Trump's example, and also cut aid to the Palestinian Authority.

In August 2018, the US cut its annual contribution of $360 Million to (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East), citing many complaints, including the number of Palestinians UNWRA recognizes as refugees.
Then, On 24 August, the Trump administration cut more than $200 Million in direct aid to the PA.[83] The administration had previously cut aid to several UN bodies devoted to the Palestinian cause, including cutting $300 Million off the contribution to United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA),[20] and the UN Human Rights Council.[83]
In February 2019, the US stopped all USAID to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. The US stopped providing more than $60m in annual funds for the Palestinian security services.

Fast foward now to April 2021 >>
the Biden administration, reversing the Trump cuts, In April 2021, contributed $150 Million to UNRWA,[22] (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East) on condition that the funds are not used to assist any refugee receiving military training or has participated in any terrorist act.[23]
Oh YEAH, :right:

In a country that VOTED for Hamas to run its affairs, you can bet every dime going into Palestine is going to Hamas for military equipment, and in particular, rockets to be fired at Israel.

Dave Dubya said...

The US does not give money to Hamas. Idiots like TOM don't know this.

TOM only THINKS he knows what’s going on. His indoctrinated hatred and lies are showing.

Like his heroes Trump and Putin, he will blame Biden for what Hamas does.

He LIES about Iran being “given” $6 billion. The money was Iran’s in the first place. TOM is ignorant of this fact.

The money IS in Qatar and will be distributed towards humanitarian purposes. NO CASH for Iran is in the agreement.

TOM is IGNORANT of this.

TOM is also extremely IGNORANT to say the Palestinian Authority is Hamas. He’s WRONG!

Here are the facts:

The Palestinian Authority (PA) is a governing body that has overseen parts of the Israeli-occupied West Bank since the mid-’90s. The Palestinian Authority (PA) was set up in the mid-’90s as an interim governing body that would pave the way to setting up an independent Palestinian state on the 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital.

It was a product of the Oslo Accords between the Israeli government and the PLO – then led by Yasser Arafat. Today, those accords lie in tatters, with Israel expanding its settlements and bypassing roads in the West Bank and East Jerusalem in a de facto annexation of territory that should have been part of the putative state of Palestine.

The PA lost its grip on power after Hamas won parliamentary elections, taking control of the Gaza Strip after a brief civil war.

The PA has an elected presidency and unicameral legislative council (parliament) called the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC). However, there have been no presidential elections since incumbent Mahmoud Abbas was elected in 2005, and no parliamentary elections since 2006. The PLC has not convened since 2007, when Abbas’s Fatah split from rival group Hamas after a brief civil war.

The arrival of Abbas was also welcomed by Israel and the West, who viewed him as the best guarantor of stability in the region. In contrast to Arafat, Abbas had been critical of violence during the second Intifada.

What is the relationship between the PA and Hamas?

Today, the political and territorial split between Abbas’s Fatah party and Hamas, seated respectively in the West Bank and Gaza, has become deeply entrenched. The two territories have grown into markedly different entities, Fatah’s PA enjoying international recognition and backing, while Gaza under Hamas, designated terrorists by the West, has grown increasingly isolated.

Out of ignorance and hatred, TOM wants to blame Biden and “leftists” for the actions of terrorists.

So far, MAGAts, not Hamas, have terrorized Congress and beat cops to overturn our election.

TOM supports these domestic terrorists.

MJ said...


"I wish there was no systemic racism in the US. I wish we didn't have the party of Trump that sees CRT and "anti-white racism" as the real threat, instead of poverty and racism against minorities."
Unless you are advocating for the acceptance of racism against whites you may want to revise this paragraph.
My read of what you wrote is that systemic racism is what gives legitimacy to racism against white people, since you wish for "no systemic racism" (predominantly minorities) and also claim one of the "real threats" is "racism against minorities".
It might not be as prevalent (or as publicized), but I've personally witnessed (alleged) racism against an old white guy.
I looked up the basic antidiscrimination rules. They don't say you can't discriminate against black people, or brown - they say you aren't to discriminate based on race.

Dave Dubya said...

MJ,
Instead of revising my statement on racism, how about you READ it with an effort to understand it? What kind of snowflake victim mentality would see that as "advocating for the acceptance of racism against whites"?

Was the “alleged racism against an old white guy” really racism, or just a consequence of him being an ornery asshole? Details matter.

Are you trying to say white people discriminating against a Black person ISN'T discrimination based on race?

That sounds a lot like what a racist would say. As I’ve noted, racism isn’t racism to racists.

MJ said...

"Are you trying to say white people discriminating against a Black person ISN'T discrimination based on race?"

Good grief, why does everyone who hears me say something about this jump on the "you're a racist!" train? Perhaps you could help me understand the disconnect here.

All I am suggesting is your "the real threat of poverty and racism against minorities" should be *either* "the real threat of poverty and racism" or "the real threat of poverty and *systemic* racism against minorities.
There are two different definitions of racism - one is the systemic racism that targets minorities and the other is personal and could be against any race. Do I need a different word? Is that the problem?

And the goal of non-discrimination should include all - like this:
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000e and following) prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe).

(see? it doesn't specify which races or sexes we shouldn't discriminate against - told you so)

Dave Dubya said...

Fine, MJ.

Feel free to add "systemic", in addition to personal racism.

Why should the law specify which races or sexes we shouldn't discriminate against? Obviously it includes ANY racial, sex, religion, etc. discrimination. It's sad that some people can miss the point entirely.

"...Prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe)."

Only a racist would say, "Looky thar, Clem! It don't specify we caint discriminate agin ni**ers, an' even them thar sand ni**ers!"

Ah, but that's why it includes COLOR.

The bigot will then say, "Lookin' ta ME like we kin discriminate agin them homos an' Commie libs, too!"

Why is it so damn hard for Trump's racists and bigots to just show some basic human decency towards everyone?

I'll tell you why.

They are indoctrinated to fear and hate everyone who doesn't WORSHIP Dear Leader, and who doesn't BELIEVE without question every sacred, infallibly honest word of their Malevolent Messiah sent by God to save America from truth, kindness, compassion, conscience, equality and democracy.




MJ said...

Wow.
"Why should the law specify which races or sexes we shouldn't discriminate against?"
What the hell are you talking about? Wasn't that my point?
I agree that it is sad that some people, so many people, miss this point.
Also on board with everything else you say.

I would love to assume that "systemic" is implied. It's tough when, to make a long story short, a front-desk assistant in a US senator's office tells a visitor (that white guy, not so old at the time) that it is not possible to be racist against a white guy. I mean, we were there to ask for help in a frustrating situation... But that makes the story long again.

Information You Deserve said...

"I wish there was no systemic racism in the US. I wish we didn't have the party of Trump that sees CRT and "anti-white racism" as the real threat, instead of poverty and racism against minorities"


It's the Democratic-Socialists, and the STUPID, IGNORANT Progressives who see Trump as the DEVIL, and see the Stuttering, Babbling, Lying, Walking Vegetable, Idiot Joe Biden as their Saint in Armor who is the REAL problem, only the Moronic Left is too blind to see that.

DD say's "Ah, but that's why it includes COLOR." Did he forget that's how the IDIOT Kamala Harris was picked?

Les Carpenter said...

Just wondering if MJ is FJ's son.

Or, just another in FJ's sockpuppet stable.

Dave Dubya said...

MJ,
OK. I'll try to be clear. No, "systemic racism is what gives legitimacy to racism against white people" isn't my point. I think we both misinterpreted each other.

The front desk guy would have better said, "There is no systemic anti-white racism". Sure a black person could hate white people. His reasons would probably be rooted in his personal experience of discrimination, or even being nurtured by bigoted parents. Bigotry comes in all colors.

"Anti-white racism" has been blown out of all proportion by resentful white racists. Authoritarian personalities will ALWAYS play their "victim card" to ramp up anger and scapegoating. After all, as Trump whined, "No president has ever been treated so poorly". Lincoln might disagree.

CRT has been dishonestly demonized as a "Marxist" anti-white conspiracy intended to make white kids "feel guilty", intended to shut down any honest, therefor "uncomfortable" study of the history of slavery and racism.

Dave Dubya said...


IYD,
Biden voters don't buy Chinese-made hats and flags to parade their loyalty and blind faith in Biden, like Trump supporters do. What you're doing is called "projection".

Have you ever considered WHY Americans of conscience see Trump as a foul and immoral person?

Have you ever considered the fact Trump is attacking our justice system and elections because HE LOST and committed CRIMES to overturn the 2020 election.

Are you even AWARE of the FACT that Trump was determined by a jury and judge to have committed sexual assault that meets the NY definition of rape? Are you even AWARE of the FACT that Trump was found GUILTY of FRAUD in New York and will LOSE HIS businesses in the state?

Are you even AWARE of the charges in the many indictments against your Malevolent Messiah?

Kamala is QUALIFIED for president.

Clarence Thomas was selected BECAUSE he was a black conservative who kissed up to white Republicans. You probably don't know that either, or you're just another hypocrite. The American Bar Association did rate Thomas as qualified, although with one of the lowest levels of support for a Supreme Court nominee. The ONLY "qualifications" required for the Trump Justices was their opposition to women's reproductive freedom and approval by the far Right Federalist Society.

The ABA committee weighed Kavanaugh’s “solid reputation for integrity, intellectual capacity, and writing and analytical ability” against “concern over whether this nominee is so insulated that he will be unable to judge fairly in the future.” In a split vote, it downgraded the rating of the nominee to simply “qualified” — meaning he met the ABA’s standards to become a judge but was not necessarily an outstanding candidate.


Les,
I don't think MJ is -FJ/JC. He's too reasonable.

MJ said...

Dave Dubya
Thanks for that response.
Please bear with me here, I want to be clear. So, replying by the paragraph.

"OK. I'll try to be clear. No, "systemic racism is what gives legitimacy to racism against white people" isn't my point. I think we both misinterpreted each other."
I didn't really think that was your point - my bad for not making that clear. I thought that implication crept in without you noticing. The dual usage of racism is a problem, one exploited by propagandists. I think the fallacy is called "ambiguity" and it is one being exploited by fascists. It leaves people talking past each other.

"The front desk guy would have better said, "There is no systemic anti-white racism"."
YES. exactly. I think that was the discussion the senator had with her. She called my friend later to tell him she'd had the conversation.

""Anti-white racism" has been blown out of all proportion by resentful white racists."
Oh, hell yeah. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, though. Denying it out of reflex just gives the bastages unjustified ammunition (my opinion, obvi)

"CRT "
Enough said. The whole CRT thing is *another* bs issue misrepresented by the orcs who have gained power. I fall back on John Scalzi's description of playing on the easiest level.
I still believe there has to be a better answer than making everyone play on the harder levels, but maybe not. Finite resources in a changing world and all that.

I'd comment on y'all assuming I'm another orc, but you are working an a virtual war-zone so I can't take it personally. Sometimes the orcs sound so reasonable until you call them on something and suddenly it's all "Haw, haw, we don't even use film anymore so you can't say someone filmed police acting badly, gotcha!" Wait - I think I just did comment on y'all assuming. OH, nevermind.

MJ said...

By the way, forgot to say - your comment section makes for some disturbing reading. The number of "commenters" just spitting out "YOU'RE WRONG,BIDEN BAD, NOT A CULT" is bananas. I couldn't deal with it on a regular basis. Please take care of yourself.

Les Carpenter said...

Opps, you're right Dave. I must have experienced a senior moment. It was IYD's comment i thought might be just another sockpuppet rant. My appology MJ.

Dave Dubya said...

MJ,
Thanks for your clarification.

The bile you see from the MAGA cult is only the tip of the iceberg. They really do go full neo-Nazi in their unsubstantiated spewing of hate, blame, accusations, and scapegoating.

They truly are driven by purely reactionary emotion, devoid of any grounding in facts, reason, and logic. Who needs al that, when you have Trump's infallible sacred words to hide behind?

I wonder how they would react to the suggestion that the top secret info provided by Israel, that Trump shared with Russians in the Oval Office, was probably used by Hamas.

"Fake news!" "Commie lies!" "You hate Jews AND America!" "REAL Americans support Trump!"

That's probably where they would take it.

I welcome their input. Nobody can define their madness better than what they say and believe.

Cults have always fascinated me. The authoritarian personalities among humanity are the most willing of sheep, ripe for the fleecing and shepherding to the path to fascism.

MJ said...

Les - no problem. Like I said, not taking it personally when I wonder into a war-like zone and stick my head up. Bound to be some reaction. It IS reminding me of the "All Men vs. Not All Men" thing. When you don't know if someone is an orc, you're better off assuming orc. In the meat world, it's a lot safer.

DD - I appreciate your patience, even though we started with miscommunication. Maybe next time I can try leading with Scalzi's description of playing on the hard settings? Oh, and the ambiguity fallacy. Probably another six months before I shoot my mouth off like that anyway.
I like your site, BTW. The comments are fascinating. Very confusing/entertaining to see the same commenter state, for the third time in a row, "Im nver commenting here again!" (sic)

Dave Dubya said...

MJ,
Thank you so much!

I'm glad you find amusement in their madness. I sure do.

I learned years ago that my keys to mental health and a sane perspective require two characteristics.

1. Never take anything personally.
2. Have a sick sense of humor.

I can add, "Stay curious".

Humans are by nature an emotionally unstable species, and the worst of us are selfish paranoid bigots that will probably ruin everything eventually.

I understand why the last American prophet George Carlin finally explained, "I'm not invested in the outcome".

A privilege of age in this day and age, of course.

There's a Grateful Dead song that says, "I may going to hell in a bucket, but at least I'm enjoying the ride".

So far, I can separate my life from the madness, share the joys and wonders with friends and family, and enjoy the time I have left on this beautiful planet.

Mocking the madness is one of the joys. And as Mark Twain put it, “Irreverence is the champion of liberty, and its only sure defense".

Anonymous said...

Do you HATE AND CONDEMN THE BIDEN REGIME?

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,

No. At times I'm disappointed, annoyed, or even angered, but I'm not indoctrinated to hate anybody.

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous will need to identify himself if he wants any more of his remarks added to the discussion. He can call himself "Angry White Guy" or "Q-Nut", or even "Sid", anything will do.

He is justified in his outrage and anger against Hamas. All decent people share it.

But he seems fine with Trump blaming Netanyahu and praising Hezbollah. "You know, Hezbollah is very smart.' They're all very smart."

So what does he do? He blames BIDEN, of course. I welcome his reasoning and evidence that supports that opinion if he just tells us who to address. I'm no longer allowing more than ONE anonymous comment to reduce any misattributions of remarks.

He was quick to call Hamas "subhuman animals", as the Israeli Defense Minister did. It's unfortunate that they have embraced a term Hitler used against Jews, though.

Hamas are all-too-human. American racists are also all-too-human. Hate is a virus of the soul than infects too many humans, but I must allow that feeling for terrorists and other sociopath murderers. I allow for hating Nazis and neo-Nazis as well. They are beyond redemption and a threat to democracy, peace and human life. But they are all-too-human in their spiritual and moral darkness.

I cannot hate people just for voting for Trump, though. I have friends and family among them. Not all of them are beyond redemption. Some have awakened from the cult indoctrination. I welcome Anonymous to consider the same possibility, but would not expect it. When someone allows Trump to define reality for them, it's impossible to see anything clearly.

Les Carpenter said...

Well, in truth, Netanyahu is but a strong arm authoritarian minded individual. Perhaps he is part of the long term problem rather than part of the solution. Just saying.

That does mean i support Hamas of Hezbollah, or any violence against another person, organization, culture, or country for that matter. But i'm sure the no mind whacko's will continue to call me an Anti-semite.

So long...

SID said...

Your a very SICK SCHMUCK

Dave Dubya said...

SID,
Thank you for your well-considered and evidence supported opinion. ;-)

Les,
You may want to edit your remark for accuracy.

Les Carpenter said...

That DOES NOT mean...

Was typing on the phone. Thanks for picking up the inadvertent omission.

Not that it makes any difference to the haters of MAGA unreality USA.

Les Carpenter said...

Omission corrected, thanks Dave.

You have a sensible and thoughtful site. I hope you keep it going.

Me... what i see is nothing but chaos and increased political insanity on both sides of the aisle. So, it's check out time and retirement from anymore political crap for me. Serenity and peace is found when one leaves the toxicity and ignorance of reified beliefs in flawed political/government ideas and principals.

In short, i no longer believe this nation is standing on firm ground or that it will survive as a democratic republic.

So long and go I good luck.

Isaac said...

I hesitated. to even make this post because I doubt that anything positive can come out of this concerning the Hamas on Israel, and your stupid mention, and assessment of . Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu

Dave Dubya said...

Isaac,
Thank you for your informative and thoughtful opinion.

I agree, and doubt anything positive will come from the Hamas/Israel war.

As for Netanyahu, I base my opinion on him being charged with fraud, breach of trust and accepting bribes in three separate scandals involving powerful media moguls and wealthy associates, his efforts to seize control of the judicial system, and the fact massive protests were staged against him, including many military reservists.

This is my "stupid assessment", but we have no idea what YOURS is.

Dave Dubya said...

Isaac,
For your consideration...

Yuval Noah Harari, historian and professor in the Department of History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote:

The real explanation for Israel’s dysfunction is populism rather than any alleged immorality. For many years, Israel has been governed by a populist strongman, Benjamin Netanyahu, who is a public-relations genius but an incompetent prime minister. He has repeatedly preferred his personal interests over the national interest and has built his career on dividing the nation against itself. He has appointed people to key positions based on loyalty more than qualifications, took credit for every success while never taking responsibility for failures, and seemed to give little importance to either telling or hearing the truth.

The coalition Netanyahu established in December 2022 has been by far the worst. It is an alliance of messianic zealots and shameless opportunists, who ignored Israel’s many problems — including the deteriorating security situation — and focused instead on grabbing unlimited power for themselves. In pursuit of this goal, they adopted extremely divisive policies, spread outrageous conspiracy theories about state institutions that oppose their policies, and labeled the country’s serving elites as “deep state” traitors.


Maybe you can enlighten us on how "stupid" this assessment is?

I understand if you are a Trump supporter, you won't be able to compose a rational response, and just dismiss it as "stupid".

Anonymous said...

Tough times like these create strong people, strong people create easy time, easy time create weak people, weak people create tough times!! You have to raise children to know hystory!!! Let’s not fall into this over and over again .
Let’s stay strong and teach our privileged children how and when we …..and our parents made the world so great for them. The sacrifices that were made !!! God Bless the Jewish People.

Anonymous said...

Maybe you write a bit about Biden as well?

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,
I agree it is very important to teach history. Too many people know so little about the Holocaust, WWII, and the effects it had on the UN and the creation of Israel.

A bit about Biden:

President Joe Biden assured Israel, “Our hearts may be broken, but our resolve is clear...And let there be no doubt: The United States has Israel’s back. We will make sure the Jewish and democratic State of Israel can defend itself today, tomorrow, as we always have. It’s as simple as that. These atrocities have been sickening. We’re with Israel. Let’s make no mistake.”

He won praise from Republicans including George Bush for his response to Hamas’s attack.

In contrast, Trump praised Hezbollah for being "very smart" and complained “I’ll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That was a very terrible thing,” Trump said. “And then Bibi tried to take credit for it. That didn’t make me feel too good.”

Joe Biden is now featured on a billboard above a busy highway in Tel Aviv, alongside the words: “Thank you, Mr President.”

On Friday Biden spoke with the families of the Americans who remain unaccounted for in Israel.

Biden also acknowledged, “We can’t lose sight of the fact that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians had nothing to do with Hamas.”

Dave Dubya said...

On the 12th Ted Cruz tweeted, "It took days for Biden to say the US stands with Israel...It's important for Americans to understand why he took him that long...Democrats are beholden to Israel-hating leftist activists".

He's a shameless liar. Biden announced his support within HOURS after the attacks. Then he lied again about Biden being "beholden to Israel-hating leftist activists"

He's truly a vile man, using this tragedy to spew lies and ramp up hate.

idol Gossip said...

I.

Isaac said...

By the way, this will be my last post here, I’d rather not waste mt time with YOUR STUPID NONSENSE.

Duke said...

Jim Jordan wins the House Speaker nomination!
The Democrats are Fucked!

The Hawk said...

Its time that YOU DEMOCRATIC COCKROACHES get your act together, snd act like the Americans you’re supposed to be!

Les Carpenter said...

How's decency towards the MAGA bots working out?

Those folks are no better upstairs than Hamas or Hezbollah.

Les Carpenter said...

American terrorists are what the MAGA movement is.

Dave Dubya said...

Idol,
U.

Isaac,
Does this mean you won't share your brilliant assessment of Netanyahu? You won't enlighten us with your wisdom to help us understand why our nonsense is so stupid? Our loss...

Duke,
Like students at the OSU gym shower?

Hawk,
Obviously you know best, so you don't have to offer any details.

Something tells me believing in every word from Trump as gospel is your idea of "acting like Americans are supposed to be".

Thank you for your insight and thoughtful advice. I'll pass it on to democrats who won't act like Americans and pledge their loyalty to Trump over truth, our Constitution, rule of law, and democracy.

It's a pity you won't share your alternative facts to help us see the light.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
I love the fact our fellow Americans, or Russian visitors, take the time to share their Christian love and Trumpian wisdom. How else could we learn we're such stupid cockroaches?

There's something very special in how they tell us were wrong, but won't offer any information that would set us straight. I think maybe it's their polite way of sparing us humiliation.

As good Christians, they would NEVER lie or say anything hateful, would they? How could we NOT love them for their Christian kindness and thoughtful consideration?

Bless their hearts.

Dave Dubya said...

Duke,
It seems some of your fellow Republicans disagree with your insurrectionist nominee.

“It makes us look like a bunch of idiots,” said Rep. Austin Scott, who is not backing Jim Jordan

Don Bacon says the dysfunction puts a swing seat like his at risk of flipping to Ds. “These guys want to be in the minority.”

What is your advice to them?

Samauel Patterson said...

It's bad enough that American children are being taught to stand in solidarity with terrorists who target innocent civilians by all across the US. , and that universities are taught that way as well. But don’t tell me to think that CRAZY, ASININE
way !

Dean Robenson said...

Sometimes extreme events have profound effects on politicians, and sometimes they don't. In the next few days, we will see which of these will be the case for that FLEABAG Senator Cory Booker.

Booker, who was just forced to flee the Hamas terrorist attacks against Israel this past weekend, was seen in 2018 holding up an anti-Israel sign in support of pro-Palestine activists.
The image resurfaced on social media after news of Booker’s harrowing experience.

The US Campaign for Palestinian Rights posted the original image on X, showing the Democrat senator attending the Netroots Nation conference.

Booker who belongs in a Lunatic Lunatic Asylum can be seen smiling with anti-Israel activists while holding up a sign that reads: “From Palestine to Mexico. All the Walls Have Got to Come Down.”

Dave Dubya said...

Samauel,
Are the fundamentalist Christian universities now promoting the values of al-Qaeda, ISIS and Hamas? That's institutionalized religion for you. Crusades to Jihad.

Or are you saying that's what public universities are teaching? Yeah, that sounds just like radical Right indoctrination.

Who exactly is telling you to think that CRAZY ASININE way? I went to college, yet I hate terrorism and condemn Hamas. Something tells me you lack a college education and have no idea what you're talking about.

But someone IS telling people to think that CRAZY, ASININE way.

We have a MAGA movement that is fostering this kind of madness, murder, and mayhem here at home. I dread what Trump might order his true believers to do if Biden wins reelection. Too many of them WANT a dictatorship or civil war.

In the US Blacks, Jews, and even progressive Unitarians have been murdered in their places of worship by radical Right racists and bigots. Who taught them their hate and bigotry?

Not colleges.

Maybe you didn't read the meme saying, "If your religion makes you hate someone you need a new religion".

Trumpism has become a religion to his fanatic base. They think he was sent by God to save America. They think their Malevolent Messiah is so pure he never lies and has never done anything wrong.

The word for that kind of blind adoration for a lying leader is "cult".

Les Carpenter said...

Ignorant hateful people look to the most simplistic reason for what they perceive as problems. tRump the insurrectionist, rapist, and traitor provides just that for them.

Samauel Patterson said...

The Democratic creeps such as Cory Booker, Chuck Schemer,Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and especially Ilhan Omar, as well as many others in that Miserable Progressive party are almost as responsible for October 7, as the Hamas Militants themselves. It is as much the support like they give to these animals, that terrorists are inspired and are motivated by.
Think about this: when Donald Trump was the president, Hamas didn’t attack Israel... No In fact we hardly even heard from them . Donald Trump stopped it by cutting aid to the Palestinians, and all of the other Terrorist Nations as well.

But then, when Biden took office, and reversed all that, he gave them $150 Million, and he gave Iran 6 Billion to Iran and here we are in todays mess.
What does it take to get the Left/Democrats/Liberals/Progressives to realize that these people are the ENEMY?
Maybe we need to bring back the Draft, or somehow get all the Loony Tune Liberals out of Teaching our Kids in our schools. They may open their eyes to what’s going on in this world!

Samauel Patterson said...

I feel that your way of thinking maybe Part of the Problem.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
As we know the Trumpists cannot even IMAGINE their beloved savior could ever lie or do anything wrong. He does their thinking for them and defines their reality, so all they need to do is BELIEVE.

Yes, that is as simplistic as a person could be. No thought is required. No examination of facts or seeking of information is needed. All they need is Trump's word. It is their new gospel. No more of that "love your neighbor, feed the poor, care for the sick, tax the rich" stuff Jesus talked about. How "woke" is THAT, anyway?

Dean,
Thank you for your input.

Are you opposed to Palestinians having rights? Do you think they are all terrorists? I’m sure you don't believe that, because if you do, you are by definition a bigot.

The sign Booker held was anti-walls. Someone handed it to him just before the photo. He said he misread the sign before holding it up. Perhaps you might understand this since YOU also didn’t read it correctly. It said, “From Palestine to Mexico all the walls have got to go”.

Aside from calling a black person a “fleabag” and lunatic, I’m sure you’re no racist either.

I’ll just have to ask you, is this what you call “anti-Israel” too?

U.S. Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) issued the following statement:

“I emphatically condemn Hamas' horrific acts of violence, kidnapping and terror targeting Israeli families, children and other civilians in towns and cities across the nation of Israel. I stand with the people of Israel and the families of those who have lost loved ones.”

"My team and I are now safe, but like many we are shaken, angered, and heartbroken by the hundreds killed, the thousands injured, those taken hostage, and all who are directly affected by these sickening terrorist attacks," Booker said on X. "After this experience, more than ever, I am committed to working with my colleagues in the Senate to continue supporting Israel’s security and ensuring stability in the region — and I hope one day soon, a long-term and just peace in the region."


Obviously, there is MUCH you don’t know about Booker. Or you just don’t care to know. Please let me know if you think this information from 2018 also suggests Booker is “anti-Israel”.

“On Israel boycott issue, Booker stands alone among Senate Democrats in 2020 presidential race”

https://www.nj.com/politics/2018/12/on-israel-boycott-issue-booker-stands-alone-among-senate-democrats-in-2020-presidential-race.html

”Booker added his name to legislation to ban U.S. companies from joining an international boycott of Israel.

In fact, Booker, D-N.J., is the only U.S. senator mentioned as a prospective 2020 Democratic presidential candidate to co-sponsor the bill.

The legislation is designed to oppose the Palestinian-led boycott, divestiture and sanctions movement, better known as BDS. While saying its actions are designed to “pressure Israel to comply with international law,” the group does not specifically support Israel’s right to exist and backs policies that would end its unique status as a country with a Jewish majority.

“We’ve seen the alarming rise in anti-Semitism in the United States and across the world in recent years manifest itself in many deeply concerning ways, including in the actions of foreign governments targeting Israel and the Israeli people,” Booker, D-N.J., said in announcing his support for the anti-BDS measure.

“I have long and staunchly opposed the BDS movement, and support this bill which will prevent international entities from imposing their will on U.S. businesses with regards to their decisions, consistent with U.S. law, to conduct commerce with our close ally Israel and its citizens."


I would really appreciate it if you’d show me your evidence that allows you to believe this black man is an “anti-Israel lunatic fleabag” in your well-informed judgement.

Dave Dubya said...

Samaual,
I marvel at your certainty. You're a true believer in the infallible honesty and goodness of Donald Trump. I get it.

I hope you don't resort to more hate or name-calling for the information I'm sharing.

First, Biden did NOT "give" Iran $6 billion. It was THEIR OIL REVENUES we held. It is not even in Iran. It is in a bank in Qatar, where it would be dispensed for humanitarian needs. NO CASH has been, or will be, sent to Iran.

What Trump and the Republicans REFUSE to tell you:

U.S., Qatar agree to stop Iran from tapping $6 billion fund after Hamas attack

"U.S. officials and the Qatari government have agreed to stop Iran from accessing a $6 billion account for humanitarian assistance in light of Hamas’s attack on Israel."

I know this all goes against your FEELINGS, but facts are facts. "Alternative facts" are not facts. This seems to be the primary confusion on the Right.

You said, "Think about this: when Donald Trump was the president, Hamas didn’t attack Israel... No In fact we hardly even heard from them."

OK. I'll think about it, since apparently you didn't.

You couldn't be more wrong about Hamas not attacking Israel while Trump was president.

But then, you would never believe Israel's government services and information website over Trump, would you?

From Israel's government services and information website:

https://www.gov.il/en/departments/general/wave-of-terror-october-2015

Attacks happened all through the Trump years.

Here are just the ones from 2020:

November 2020: 83 terror attacks took place in November.

October 2020: There were 124 terror attacks in October.

September 2020: A total of 100 terror attacks took place in September

There were a total of 120 terror attacks in August compared to 94 in July.

June 2020:There were four rocket launchings from the Gaza Strip in June, 22 attacks in Jerusalem and the Green Line and 69 attacks in Judea and Samaria.

May 2020: In May there was a single terror attack from the Gaza Strip, 14 attacks in Jerusalem and the Green Line and 66 attacks in Judea and Samaria.

In April there was a single incident of small arms fire from the Gaza Strip, 30 attacks in Jerusalem and the Green Line and 41 attacks in Judea and Samaria.

There were two rocket launches from the Gaza Strip in March, 37 in Jerusalem and the Green Line and 50 in Judea and Samaria.

There were 161 terror attacks from the Gaza Strip in February including 127 instances of shelling (rockets and mortars). 171 terror attacks were carried out in Jerusalem and the West Bank.

225 terror attacks took place during January. 9 rocket/mortar attacks were launched from Gaza.


What was it you said about "opening their eyes to what’s going on in this world"?

What did Jesus say about the beam in your eye?

I know how you FEEL about my thinking, but what do you THINK about what I'm thinking?

That's a harder question, isn't it?

Dean Robenson said...

Maybe we need to bring back the draft, or somehow get all the Looney Tune liberals out of our schools, and Universities. . 😐

Dimocrap scum leaders understand something most Conservatives do not, and ZERO Dimocrap voters do --

The 2nd Amendment is not there so you can protect your home from burglars, or to allow you to hunt, or to defend from Foreign Invasion, or target practice or anything like that.

The 2nd Amendment is there so The People can defend against a tyrannical government. period

dimocrap scum know that We, The People are a threat to what they want to inflict on us -- Totalitarianism.

And they do NOT want us to deter them from their goal of achieving it.

Folks, that is not hyperbole. It is possible that at some point in the future, Republicans might take over and become so powerful that they attempt it. ALL governments, deep inside, want a Tyranny. They think it's wonderful -- As long as they're in charge and terrible if it's somebody else.

But right now, and for the foreseeable future, the only threat to our freedom is the DNC.

That is just a fact. Those don't see it are just blind, and stupid.

TheGreatSatan said...

The more Democrats complain about Jim Jordon, the more I kike him.
I guess that the Democrats want Taylor Swift as our next speaker.

Thersites said...

Palestinians have one, and only one, INALIENABLE RIGHT. To emigrate. Let's encourage them to exercise it. :)

Les Carpenter said...

I'm waiting patiently Dave for you're kind Christians to give us some specific verifiable evidence that the thoughts rolling around in their Christian craniums are actual facts. I won't however be holding my breath.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave D., I wonder if the trolls from Lisa's troll farm (TOM, Dean, Samuel, Idol, etc.) understand that Trump's idol, Putin, has helped Hamas with financing and other support? Trump admires Putin, called him a "genius" and thought his attack on Ukraine was "savvy."

Do the WYD trolls who see the connection between Trump's admiration for Putin and Putin's support of Hamas as problematic? Or will they just continue to keep their heads up their posteriors and pretend they don't know this?

Also will the trolls understand that Trump's praising the terrorist organization, Hezbollah, as "smart," wasn't a "mistake."

Smart statemen don't make horrendously stupid statements like that. Only malignant narcissistic A-holes, who crave attention and will say anything to get it, cover themselves in ignominy like Trump does.





Thinking said...

I say there's people there who don't care about the politics, don't care that much about religion. And just want Hamas and Israel to leave them alone and let them try to live a normal life. After all, it's just human nature for most people to focus more on work & family than things they can't control.
Most Americans are that way. Same as Mexicans and everyone else on this planet.
What we DO know is that OUR government lies as much as other governments lie. We know the Merida lies, that CNN lies, and that most if not all of the other Left-wing media lies. And we also know, or we should know that Our Own President Lies. So what I don't get is how anyone, especially those who lives thousands of miles from Israel and Palestine, who have no links to that area, can even take a side.
We also should know that what we are seeing right now by the Filthy, Barbaric, Savages, the Violent, packs of Dogs that are roaming the streets of Israel Killing, and Rapping, and Beheading innocent people, and taking many of them Hostage need to REVENGED, no matter what anyone says! And that Benjamin Netanyahu will certainly do what needs to be done. And that is to KILL every last one of those Animals.
We have to believe the information, and the pictures that we are seeing and hearing is true. And I personally have NO doubt that it is.
Be it hate, fear or both of them, all you need to do is to take just 2 minutes on the internet, you'll find atrocities committed by Hamas.are the most AWFUL, TERRIBLE, UN-HUMAN, DISGUSTING things that you have ever seen before in your lifetimes. Anyone who tells you that those pictures of the Hamas be-heading, Babies, but they are also Buring Babies, and Children alive. Hamas not only kills everyone in their sight but uses Women and Children as shield.. They are doing things that should make your blood turn....
Unarmed Innocent Israelis, and many Americans were Attacked,.Raped, Murdered and Kidnaped, and are being held Hostage. . Who would NOT support the victim under this circumstance? Israel deserves to have a homeland without fear of rockets hitting them everyday from all sides. The world has to start caring more, or else Iran and their allies will do grave damage, and most definitely lead to World War Three. . The world has to start caring before we see a active War start right before our very eyes. So Ask Yourself Do you side with the Israelis that seen their Innocent Men, Women Children, and Babies Murdered, Raped, and Kidnapped by a Brutal, Vicious, Savage ? Do you want to see these Packs of Savage Dogs Pay for what they Did?
he bottom line is that Israel has a Right to Exist and they are surrounded by so many who do not want them to exist. So, the response has to also send a message to other Nations.. Then there is the most difficult part to come...the ground invasion. Prayers for the Israel Defense Forces and the Hostages. It takes courage to fight for justice and I will always respect a Soldier who does.
It's a very easy choice to make and one Humans choose easily.

Dave Dubya said...

Satan,
We know you Trumpists follow your dear leader’s word as gospel and love Jim Jordan. You don’t care that he’s a hypocrite who wants people to comply with HIS congressional subpoenas, as he ignored one from the Jan. 6 Committee. (Is he afraid of testifying under oath? Like Trump, he thinks he is above the law and rules only apply to others.)

Arthur Delaney reports “Ken Buck (R-Col) wouldn’t vote for either Jordan or Scalise because they dodged his question about who won in 2020.”

Buck said, “If we don't have the moral clarity to decide whether President Biden won or not, we don't have the moral clarity to rule in this country, period.”

A number of House Republicans are in talks to block Rep. Jim Jordan’s path to the speakership as the Ohio Republican tries to force a floor vote on Tuesday, according to multiple GOP sources.

One senior Republican House member who is part of the opposition to Jordan told CNN that there he believes there are roughly 40 “no” votes, and that he has personally spoken to 20 members who are willing to go to the floor and block Jordan’s path if the Ohio Republican forces a roll-call vote on Tuesday.

“The approximately 20 I’ve talked to know we must be prepared,” the member said. “We cannot let the small group dictate to the whole group. They want a minority of the majority to dictate and as a red-blooded American I refuse to be a victim.

Thinking said...

Does Shaw Kenawe EVER Write,Think, Talk about anything other than say Negative things about Donald Trump, or call people that don't agree with the CRAP that she says, and Writes "WYD Trolls"?
She should know, and be told that people are very sick, and tired for her constant Bull-Shit!

Also Her Post above show very Cleanly that She is a Hamas Lover and a "Jew Hater" just like the Anti-Semite who posted above her Lester Carpenter!

Dave Dubya said...

Dean,
I see you share Hitler’s sentiments, wanting to “get all the Looney Tune liberals out of our schools, and Universities”. Yes, he too HATED liberals and educators.

You want to discuss the 2nd Amendment? Good.

We can see you have a high estimation of your constitutional scholarship. Without college, no less. Remarkable.

The Second Amendment says nothing about waging war on the US government, or even a “tyrannical government”. Prophetically Hamilton DID mention “insurrections”. Hmm. That would be YOUR team.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The states have been free since 1783, and not once have militias been “necessary to the security of a free State”, but you radical Right insurrectionist types seem to think the 2nd is for killing the winners of elections you lose.

If you actually studied the history of the 2nd, you’d understand who wanted it and why. Colonial militias were supposed to be a substitute for a standing army at first. Since the U.S. Army was founded on June 14, 1775, militias were no longer designated defenders of the republic, or our “free state”. Militias were antiquated before the Revolution was over. Like with slavery itself, the original Constitution needed amending.

Would you believe militias were used in a Civil War to PROTECT the tyranny known as slavery? That contingency wasn’t in the 2nd Amendment was it?

So what were militias used for besides the Revolution? They certainly weren’t used for the security of a free state. It was the opposite. They fought for SLAVE states to secede from the Union.

Would you believe militias were used to hunt and kill runaway and rebellious slaves? See Andry’s Rebellion of 1811.

Would you believe they were used for murdering Native Americans?

The Gnadenhutten massacre, also known as the Moravian massacre, was the killing of 96 pacifist Moravian Christian Indians (primarily Lenape and Mohican) by U.S. militiamen from Pennsylvania, under the command of David Williamson, on March 8, 1782, at the Moravian missionary village of Gnadenhutten, Ohio Country, during the American Revolutionary War.

Also see the treacherous Sand Creek Massacre of 1864 by a miliita.

Would you believe they were used to massacre westbound settlers? See the Mountain Meadows Massacre on September 7–11, 1857.

Dave Dubya said...

Dean,

Finally, let's see what one of the Founders had to say

Would you believe Hamilton saw militias as a defense against insurrection? (That would be YOUR team.)

From the Federalist 29:

“THAT there may happen cases in which the national government may be necessitated to resort to force, cannot be denied. Our own experience has corroborated the lessons taught by the examples of other nations; that emergencies of this sort will sometimes arise in all societies, however constituted; that seditions and insurrections are, unhappily, maladies as inseparable from the body politic as tumors and eruptions from the natural body; that the idea of governing at all times by the simple force of law (which we have been told is the only admissible principle of republican government), has no place but in the reveries of those political doctors whose sagacity disdains the admonitions of experimental instruction.
Should such emergencies at any time happen under the national government, there could be no remedy but force. The means to be employed must be proportioned to the extent of the mischief. If it should be a slight commotion in a small part of a State, the militia of the residue would be adequate to its suppression; and the national presumption is that they would be ready to do their duty. An insurrection, whatever may be its immediate cause, eventually endangers all government. Regard to the public peace, if not to the rights of the Union, would engage the citizens to whom the contagion had not communicated itself to oppose the insurgents; and if the general government should be found in practice conducive to the prosperity and felicity of the people, it were irrational to believe that they would be disinclined to its support.
If, on the contrary, the insurrection should pervade a whole State, or a principal part of it, the employment of a different kind of force might become unavoidable.”


I’m sure you will believe your simplistic and erroneous idea of what the 2nd Amendment was for, but don’t say you weren’t told the real history.

Dave Dubya said...

And Dean,
Totalitarianism begins with denial of election results and cancelation of the majority vote.

Totalitarianism is imminent when a leader has a past of fraud and criminal behavior, and continues to commit crimes.

Trump tried to CANCEL MY VOTE! By doing so he VIOLATED my RIGHT to vote. See Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241 (Conspiracy Against Rights)

That is tyranny.

Please let me know of any democrats that have done this and had the unquestioning fealty of 90% of the party, like Trump has.

Here are the indictments voted by American grand jurors. They contain factual and historically documented evidence against Trump.

Donald Trump has been INDICTED for his Mar-A-Lago Documents Crimes

Counts 1-31: 18 USC 793(e) Willful Retention of National Defense Information
Count 32: 18 U.S. Code § 1512(k) Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice
Count 33: 18 U.S. Code § 1512(b) Withholding a Document or Record
Count 34: 18 U.S. Code § 1512(c) Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record
=
Donald Trump has been INDICTED on FOUR CRIMINAL COUNTS for his 2020 election interference.

Count 1: 18 U.S.C. § 371 (Conspiracy to Defraud the United States)
Count 2: 18 U.S. C. § 1512(k) (Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 3: 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2 (Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241 (Conspiracy Against Rights)
=
In Georgia Trump is charged with:

Criminal racketeering under Georgia’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act
Soliciting a public officer to violate their oath
Conspiring to impersonate a public officer
Conspiring to commit forgery with false electors
Conspiring to commit false statements
Making false statements
Conspiring to file false documents


Thersites,
We see you strongly disagree with our Founders' ideals in the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

In your position of supreme authority over mankind you have ordained Palestinians have no rights but to emigrate to where they will not be allowed to emigrate.

In other words, you're saying they have NO rights. How generous and humane of you. I think a dictatorship is what you really want.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
As expected, we have have seen no evidence to support their opinions. Just FEELINGS.

Shaw,
Of course Trump's cult would agree with Dear Leader on Putin and Hezbollah. They are THEIR kind of authoritarians, just under a different flag and religion.

They don't care that Putin is murdering Ukrainians like a 21st Century Hitler, and he backs Hamas. Trump loves Putin so THEY LOVE Putin!

Such simple people. No need to read. No need to question their leaders. No need to think. Just BELIEVE in the Malevolent Messiah they think was sent by God to save America.

Dave Dubya said...

Thinking,
Thank you for your thoughtful post.

I share your outrage for the evils committed by Hamas. I just got word from a friend of mine in Israel that he and his family are safe, but are shaken and wake up at night in fear. They were terrorized.

I know it can be difficult for some people to accept the fact that human rights abuses have been committed by Israelis against Palestinians. Do you understand more innocent Palestinians have been killed than Israelis over the years? Many times more, in fact.

Maybe you believe ALL of them are terrorists? Even the children? They are being killed as I type these words. But I blame Hamas, not them. What the hell did they think would happen after that raid? As the meme said, "If your religion makes you hate someone, you need a new religion".

The cycle of hate, violence and retribution has been constant since 1948.

But I agree this latest Hamas attack has been the most vile of this long violent history.

As for Shaw, I see no indication she "hates Jews". Can you cite her words that say this? Could you tell my WHY you believe she hates Jews?

You and your fellows may be trolls to her, but since I invited your comments, you're not a troll to me. I want to learn from you. I'd like you to explain why you feel and THINK the way you do.

Some of your buddies are only capable of vulgar insults and are deleted. THEY are trolls.

Although you may not have read it, I mentioned I have friends and family who voted for Trump. I do not hate them for their beliefs. I DO question them, though. I think we all should question our own beliefs. If not we might hold to falsehoods and incomplete information.

I wasn't raised to hate nor am I indoctrinated to hate. I am repulsed by leaders and politicians who stoke hate. This is why I liked someone like John McCain and dislike people like Trump.

If you understand what I'm saying, then we've communicated in a positive direction. If I have misinterpreted anything you said, please clarify.

Dave Dubya said...

From the Intercept:

Reports from Israel say settlers and soldiers have killed 51 Palestinians in the West Bank since Saturday. At least two Palestinian villages have been entirely depopulated.

Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Cori Bush called for a ceasefire and were attacked by AIPAC-aligned centrists. Democratic leadership stayed silent.

(Sigh...)

Les Carpenter said...

Again non Thinking, provide the complete textual references to your allegations.

You're but a blind non thinking lap puppy to a sick lying asshole who raped, tried to overthrow the duly elected government of the US in 2020, exposed US intelligence that made it to our enemies, can't even remember who he would be running against in 2024, lies like a blanket, and is loyal to no one but his over inflated sick ego.

Les Carpenter said...

So, you believe i am Dave?

Thinking... ... just like the anti- semite who posted just above her, Les(ter) Carpenter.

Just curious. Omission is often the elephant in the room.

To be clear... Hamas, the political power, not the Palestianian people, are evil barbarbians. And Netanyahu and the Israeli government do hold some responsibility for the general unrest that has always existed in the area since 1947. As does the entire West folliwing WW II in their handling of the Israeli situation.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
They believe anyone who criticizes the actions of the Israeli radical Right and abuses by security forces is an "antisemitic Jew hater". No matter how much we denounce Hamas or any other terrorist group.

Hell, they think we HATE AMERICA for not believing their infallibly honest and wise Trump was sent by God to save America.

They live in a black and white world. Like in the movies "They Live" and "Pleasantville".

Thinking said...

So Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Cori Bush called for a ceasefire. AFTER THEY ATTACKED AND SLAUGHTER HUNDREDS OF WOMEN AND CHILDTER?

Thinking said...

I Hope, and Wish Benjamin Netanyahu allows his troops to KILL every last one of those SONS OF BITCHES who started this Attract.And does it Fast

Thinking said...

The Jews have been in this land for centuries. Hamas started this war. And Benjamin Netanyahu will END IT. Hopefully by Killing every last one of those Dirty monsters

Dean Robenson said...

I Call for EVERY Decent American on these Blogs to STOP posting here now that SHAW, and Carpenter are here.
She can call me whatever she wants, and I can do the same.

Suzanne said...

Do you want American hostages, raped, tortured, and then murdered.
NO? Then Don't vote for whoever the Democratic candidate will be.

Dave Dubya said...

Dean,
Les and Shaw were around here long before you appeared.

Les does not hate Jews, has never said he hates Jews.

Shaw is a Democrat, who you call "dimocrap scum".

I have asked for no name calling. That isn't an easy request in this divisive country. You're free to ignore her.

Dave Dubya said...

Suzanne,
Only a very few Democrats have called for a cease-fire. None have condoned Hamas.

Biden and the great majority of Democrats stand with Israel.

Trump praised Hezbollah.

In My Honest Opinion said...

This President keeps on trying to smear the Republicans as a threat to democracy.
Why? How are the Republicans a threat to democracy? Why is Donald a threat to democracy?
I think that the Democrats must have focus group tested the word "democracy".
What the Democrats are calling "democracy" is a lie.
Their crazy far left version of "democracy" means censorship, politically motivated phony indictments, ballot box stuffing, the politicization of the DOJ and FBI, shooting unarmed protesters, flooding the nation with illegal aliens to change the demographics of the country, illegally spying on Trump's campaign, using the FISA court to smear Trump with their crazy Russian Collusion conspiracy....
The Democrat version of "democracy" is a one-party totalitarian police state where they can censor and arrest their opponents.
This is not John Kennedy's Democrat Party anymore.
Kennedy fought against marxism, and now the marxist have taken over the Democrat Party.
The Democrat Party's far left fanaticism and unhinged hate, racism and violence and ludicrous lying and rampant corruption is the real threat to our "democracy"

Ciceroni Excogitatoris said...

"Les does not hate Jews, has never said he hates Jews.
OH YES HE DOES! Don't believe his Lies, He won't admit it now because he was called on it WAY BACK before you got here. Don't believe his BullShit.
Jew Haters always lie about it.

Suzanne said...

"Trump praised Hezbollah"

Please don't take things Out of Context

Dean said...

Apparently liberal Progressives and intellectual cowards like you Dave like to hyper intellectualize this question. It's a simple question. It's not complicated. It isn't a matter of politics or religion..
And another thing, I am personally SICK AND TIRED OF YOU EQUATING US REPUBLICANS TO HITLER!
Who the hell do you think you are!
You don’t know a DAMN THING ABOUT ANY OF US AND YET YOU MAKE THAT DISGUSTING DECISION!

It will be a cold day in HELL BEFORE I WILL BE POSTING HERE AGAIN, and I urge my fellow Republicans to do the same

Dave Dubya said...

MyHonestOpinion,
You are more "honest" than informed. You fail to show any facts or evidence to support your opinion. Try it sometime. It's a good mental exercise.

C E.
You FAILED to cite any words by Les that indicate antisemitism.

You really don't know anything about Nazis and American neo-Nazis, or you are covering for them. Your fellow Trump supporting alt-Right bigots and racists at the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, chanted, "Jews will not replace us!"

Dean,

I didn't equate you to Hitler. I just pointed our where you agree with him. I could show you a long list of similarities shared by Trump and Hitler, from inciting an insurrection to demonizing liberals and minorities. From white nationalism to threatening to imprison political opponents.

All you have to do is disagree with Hitler and you'll be OK. Both you and Hitler demonized educators. Nazis supported Hitler's 1923 coup, and you support Trump's Jan. 6 coup.

Hitler banned abortion. You agree.

Hitler was a white nationalist, and you're...what?

It's a pity you scorn intellectual discussion and dismiss reason, facts, and evidence.

That's why Trump said, "I love the poorly educated". That's why Hitler said, “What good fortune for those in power that people do not think”.

"It's a simple question. It's not complicated. It isn't a matter of politics or religion.."

I assume you didn't care to read my response to your comments. You probably just got angry.

What question did I miss?



Dave Dubya said...

Suzanne,
YOU implied democrats "want American hostages, raped, tortured, and then murdered".

That would be terribly dishonest.

After that outrageous remark it wasn't out of context to point out Trump's praise for Hezbollah.

Les Carpenter said...

Well Dave, it sure seems the population of the now closed Stench Trench, aka WYD, have brought the traveling shit show to your fine living room with a vengence. Enjoying the opportunity to drop their nuggets of new age facism, same as old age facism right on your living room carpet.

I commend you for your professional handling of the situation. You're a better man than me Dave. Pollution destroys the atmosphere for everyone. I guess that's their mission. Just like their divine messiah Donald J. tRump, America's 21st century insurrectionist.

Dave Dubya said...

I'll put this in a short message since it is unlikely our "conservative" fellow Americans would read anything more than a few sentences of what I write.

I sincerely welcome their corrective facts, evidence and information if I am in error.

To assist our fellow Americans in forming a cogent rebuttal to my points, I offer this simple template.


“Dave, I have to say you are stating falsehoods by claiming (_____) and (_______). These facts and evidence (_____) and (____) suggest you are quite mistaken.”


Sounds simple, right? Alas, not as simple as regurgitation. Perhaps the "F" and "E" words derail them?

Les Carpenter said...

Seems simple enough Dave. I look forward to the mounds of facts and evidence they must have, given their passions for MAGA and their messiah.

Dave Dubya said...

Yes, Les.

We shall await their facts and evidence as did Vladimir and Estragon in Samuel Beckett's "Waiting for Godot".

Dave Dubya said...

We recall the time Trump bragged to RUSSSIANS IN THE OVAL OFFICE about firing James Comey.
He also GAVE RUSSIANS secrets shared to us by Israelis.

So we have this now:

Jim Jordan: "If Donald Trump wants to store (classified) material in a box in a bathroom, if he wants to store it in a box on a stage, he can do it."

Israel reportedly feared that its top secret intelligence had been compromised by Trump, who had turned on Netanyahu due to Netanyahu’s rejection of the Big Lie –

June 2023 1/ https://haaretz.com/us-news/2023-06-13/ty-article/.highlight/trump-doc-probe-concern-in-israel-former-presidents-actions-compromised-its-security/00000188-b621-d1d6-a7b9-fff57b640000

So far the weaselly traitor isn't getting the required votes to install a Trump surrogate in the Speakership.

Dave Dubya said...

While we're waiting for Godot, here's an entertaining little clip of Trump supporters headed to a rally:

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1714099900588167647

I would love to hear the reactions from our Trump supporters here, but I'd bet they would refuse to look at it.

Dave Dubya said...

How to be called a "RINO" and traitor with one sentence:

Rep. Ken Buck: “I think it's really important that the Republican Party state unequivocally that President Trump lost the 2020 election.”

That would be like a Moonie saying, "Rev. Moon is a fraud and cult leader".

Les Carpenter said...

Watching attempts by tRump and the MAGA bots trying to railroad my country into a neo fascist shit hole has me sick to my stomach as well as mad as hell.

I don't take it personally now. But, if anyone of my family or freinds are ever harmed by these thoughtless mimes i assure you i will at that point take it very personally.

After all tRump the infallible MAGA messiah has encourged such on multiple occasions.

Dave Dubya said...

Trump is many things, an honorable man not being one of them.

He's a narcissistic liar, sore loser, insurrectionist, fraudster, criminal, insurrectionist and stochastic terrorist for starters.

And that is why his cult worships him.

MJ said...

"They BELEIVE people who don't share their radical ideology based entirely on the words of a criminal narcissist must HATE America."

Dave - Newt did a whole mini-course on redefining terms and then using those words as weapons. "Woke" is an obvious current example.
I suggest that the people in question, those cultists, have redefined "America". To them, it means something that never really was, especially not for all Americans. They want to go back to a fantasy America where all the slaves were happy to work for generous masters and all the women were in kitchens supplied by handsome and financially secure men, and all the white people never had any real problems.
Like that ever happened. And that denial of the fantasy America would brand me as an America "Hater.

Dave Dubya said...

MJ,
Yes, the neo-Nazis have been well-indoctrinated. To them, all it takes to "hate Jews" is to criticize the Israeli radical Right. And all it takes to "hate America" is to oppose Trump.

Their Malevolent Messiah sent by Jesus IS America to the cult. We know Trump is a master at triggering emotions in his followers. He feeds them the fear, anger and hate they crave.

Before teaming up with Gingrich, Frank Luntz was a pollster for Pat Buchanan.

They ran an effective propaganda campaign in the '90s that deprived Clinton of a majority in Congress for his second term. "Death tax" was his baby.

His stated purpose is the goal of causing audiences to react based on emotion. "80 percent of our life is emotion, and only 20 percent is intellect...My job is to look for the words that trigger the emotion".

The road to fascism is paved through the amygdala.