Thursday, August 24, 2023

Pleading The 14th



14th Amendment

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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Remember when Republicans would praise the Constitution? Well, mostly the Militia Amendment and the parts that gave them an edge over democracy in the Electoral College and undemocratic Senate. All those Constitutional powers for taxes, regulation of commerce and providing for the general welfare are just “Marxism”.

 

Remember when pompous Republicans would self-righteously boast they were the “Law and order Party”? Apparently, law and order to them is allowing police to pin Black men with a knee to the neck, or shooting them in the back because they “felt threatened”.

 

Gone are the days.

 

Now the radical Right Party of Trump are good with their Dear Leader’s desire to eliminate the Constitution and any law enforcement agencies that get in the way of their messiah’s megalomania. When the law seeks accountability for attempted theft of an election and the theft of nuclear and military secrets, then it’s “weaponization of the justice system”. Yes, the patented neo-Nazi/white nationalist “victim card”. After years of “cruel oppression” under Blacks, “Globalists” (Jews), Muslims, Mexicans, journalists and educators, the delicate white snowflakes are melting down over the rule of law itself.

 

Of course, they have no problem with Trump telling his Department of Justice to interfere with an election on his behalf ordering them to, “Just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican Congressmen”. Former Assistant Attorney General and criminal defendant Jeffry Clark proceeded to do just that before several true law and order DOJ officials said they would resign en mass if that happened.

 

And of course, these “Constitutional conservatives” have no problem with their Tangerine Tyrant insisting his Big Lie claim of a stolen election “allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution”.

 

As we’ve suspected all along, Republicans want “law and order for me and not for thee”. Yeah, that’s exactly how we get a dictatorship and police state. And that is what they really want. This is why they follow the fascist playbook to seize minority rule, even by force.

 

Many of them stormed our Capitol to overturn our democracy by violent insurrection for Trump’s Big Lie. (Historic parallels: Both Hitler and Trump are famous for scapegoating minorities, a Big Lie, AND an insurrectionist Putsch.)

 

Another favorite lie from the American radical Right is, “Hitler was a socialist! It’s in the party name!” Right…and North Korea is a “democratic republic”. Every honest and sane person knows Nazis are fascists.

 

I’ll submit Hitler’s own words for the historical record.

 

After the allied invasion of Italy, Mussolini was deposed and jailed. Hitler needed to send in his SS “fire brigade” to Italy. There were no socialists or Marxists among them. They were loyal Nazis sworn by oath to the Fuhrer.

 

From Hitler Directs His War” by Felix Gilbert (1950, New York) pp.55ff.

“I have to take politically reliable units. I can only accomplish something with elite formations that are politically close to fascism.”

 

To quote the beloved anti-Nazi American patriot Stan Lee, “‘Nuff said”.

 

There are more of Hitler's slogans and polices that would draw cheers from the MAGA crowd, including their classic “Commie card” for the opposition and demonization of journalism, the arts and education by “culture war”.

 

"We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during recent years."

Hitler (a Radio Broadcast July 22, 1933; from My New Order, cited in The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1. pp. 871-872, Oxford University Press,London, 1942)

 

“The German state is gravely attacked by Marxism."

 

"The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extinction."

 

Note the conflation of Marxism and democracy and contempt for intellectuals. Today’s neo-Nazis howl about “Marxist CRT” as they dictate or shut down studies of African American history.

 

Republicans and Nazis share the same disdain for women’s reproductive freedom and desire to keep women in their place as unwilling breeders.

 

On October 10, 1936, Heinrich Himmler created the Reich Central Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortion, or Special Office (II S), a sub-department of Executive Department II of the Gestapo.

 

It’s quite clear neither Hitler nor Trump would respect the law when it stood between them and power.

 

Following the footsteps of Hitler’s 1923 Putsch, Trump launched his violent insurrection on January 6, 2021. We all saw it. We all saw how he waited for hours in hopes they would succeed in overturning the election. Then we saw him PRAISE his mob of thugs saying, “We love you. You’re very special”.

 

On January 6, 2021, Republican Senator Mitt Romney said, "What happened here today was an insurrection, incited by the president of the United States."

 

Also on January 6, 2021, Mitch McConnell said, “We’re debating a step that has never been taken in American history, whether Congress should overrule the voters and overturn a presidential election...

Self-government, my colleagues, requires a shared commitment to the truth, and a shared respect for the ground rules of our system. We cannot keep drifting apart into two separate tribes with a separate set of facts and separate reality, with nothing in common except our hostility towards each other and mistrust for the few national institutions that we all still share....The United States Senate has a higher calling than an endless spiral of partisan vengeance. It would be unfair and wrong to disenfranchise the voters and overrule courts and the states in this extraordinarily thin basis.”

 

(How long until he forgets that part about “a separate set of facts and separate reality”?)

 

On January 12, 2021, ten Republicans join all House Democrats to impeach Trump for "incitement of insurrection" by a vote of 232 to 197.

 

Trump’s boot-licker Kevin McCarthy was moved to admit the facts on January 13, 2021. "President Trump bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters. He should have IMMEDIATELY denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. These facts require immediate action by President Trump to accept his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest and ensure President-elect Biden is able to successfully begin his term.”

 

On February 13, 2021 the Senate voted 57–43 with 7 Republicans to convict Trump of inciting insurrection.

 

On June 23, 2023, Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said that he supported an effort to hold a vote "expunging" both impeachments of Trump. This is not a thing, but they really do try to expunge facts and history.

 

During the first Republican presidential debate on August 23, 2023, all but Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson raised their hands in support of reelecting Donald Trump, even if he is convicted of crimes.

 

Here a Putsch, there a Putsch. “Law and order”, Republican style. “Law and order”, Nazi style.

 

Our Constitution is all that stands between freedom and tyranny, and between democracy and dictatorship. Trump IS an enemy of democracy and domestic enemy of our Constitution.

 

Let’s recall Section 3 of the 14th Amendment: “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

 

The consensus of Congress and the country is Trump “engaged in insurrection”. He gave “aid or comfort” to his thugs by praising them after they terrorized Congress and beat police officers bloody in their violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election. He defended them and said he would pardon them.

 Professor Laurance Tribe and former conservative judge Michael Luttig wrote in the Atlantic: "The disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings, also indeed, independently of any impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation".

Two members of the very conservative Federalist Society released a law review article making the argument that this section disqualifies Trump from all federal offices.

Law professors William Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen wrote for the University of Pennsylvania Law Review:

“In our view, on the basis of the public record, former President Donald J. Trump is constitutionally disqualified from again being President (or holding any other covered office) because of his role in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 election and the events leading to the January 6 attack. The case for disqualification is strong.”

 

Abstract 

Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment forbids holding office by former office holders who then participate in insurrection or rebellion. Because of a range of misperceptions and mistaken assumptions, Section Three’s full legal consequences have not been appreciated or enforced. This article corrects those mistakes by setting forth the full sweep and force of Section Three.

 

First, Section Three remains an enforceable part of the Constitution, not limited to the Civil War, and not effectively repealed by nineteenth century amnesty legislation. Second, Section Three is self-executing, operating as an immediate disqualification from office, without the need for additional action by Congress. It can and should be enforced by every official, state or federal, who judges qualifications. Third, to the extent of any conflict with prior constitutional rules, Section Three repeals, supersedes, or simply satisfies them. This includes the rules against bills of attainder or ex post facto laws, the Due Process Clause, and even the free speech principles of the First Amendment. Fourth, Section Three covers a broad range of conduct against the authority of the constitutional order, including many instances of indirect participation or support as “aid or comfort.” It covers a broad range of former offices, including the Presidency. And in particular, it disqualifies former President Donald Trump, and potentially many others, because of their participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.


132 comments:

Les Carpenter said...

I've thrown my hands in the air, muttered a few unpleasant setiments about the lying tRump and his subversive party, and now simply recognize that the America that i grew up in and loved is gone. To crib Shaw... the Banana Republic Party in which 6 of 8 candidates think it peachy to support tRump if he should win the nomination,regardless if he is found guilty of felony charges brought against him.

America is facing major ethical and moral problems and at the pinnacle of these one finds the GOP.

At the moment America's greatest clear and present danger to our institutions abd democracy is the gop>/b>.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
Truly.

"Banana Republicans" is almost to quaint and kind for them.

They're essentially neo-Nazis now, with every radicalized racist Klansman, white nationalist, Proud Boy, Oath Keeper, militia nut, evangelical hypocrite, and "parrot patriot" in the Trump cult.

They have already proved their willingness to kill for their MAGAt Messiah.

Trump and his mob ARE the domestic enemies of our republic, and the greatest threat to it since the Civil War. And they WANT another one, just to install their one-party/one man dictatorship.

It's a cold civil war at the moment, but one more presidential defeat will likely result in triggering terrorism and murder from these deluded idiots and evil traitors.

Les Carpenter said...

Yes Dave. They are deluded, ignorant, and very dangerous. Neither tRump or his adoring sheeple are patriots. They are the exact opposites of a true American patriot.

To hell with tRump, AND his ignorant sycophants. Really, to hell with the gop.

Dave Dubya said...

It has begun, and will be heard all across the states in 2024.

A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave,

Apparently Bonderenka deleted all of your well thought-out posts on his blog. Like the Geeez blog, he and his trolls don't like to hear the truth. They delete or never allow contrary opinions.

Also, Bonderenka STILL believes the 2020 election was stolen. IOW, he, like the Geeezers, are not living in reality. And they vote.

Dave Dubya said...

Shaw,
Ed is behaving exactly as expected of a cult's true believer.

Our latest exchange:

Ed:
I wonder at the sanity or motivation of someone who can't figure out that his comments are unwanted and will be deleted, yet continues to put so much effort into generating them.


DD:
Ed,
I wonder if you truly wonder. I don't think you do because that requires a genuine sense of curiosity.
But I don't wonder why you delete the facts that disturb your narrowminded closed views.
Radical extremists have no sense of curiosity and shut out any information that does not conform to the Malevolent Mendacious Messiah.
I get it. Delicate true believers need a "safe place" where they don't have to think for themselves or be exposed to facts and reason.
Big Daddy does all the “thinking” for you.
If you really did have any curiosity, you'd have found out that Trump is a liar.

Anonymous said...

You can RANT YOUR STUPID ASININE MOUTH OFF ALL DAY.
NO ONE GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU SAY.
DICKFACE!

Anonymous said...

Hey Prick why don’t you ask that dumb female Jackass why SHE doesn’t publish the posts of Her Objectors ?
At least Ed gave you a chance to act normal, and you Failed!

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,
Thank you for showing us your idea of "acting normal".

And thank you for your neo-Nazi hate and utter inability to engage in rational discussion.

It tells me I have the moral and intellectual high ground.

Try addressing my points next time. Otherwise there will be no next time for you here.

Les Carpenter said...

Seems the ignorant are getting very restless. With the Stench Trench and AOW tRumper weblogs shutting down they must be frantically looking for new places to unload their white supremacy racist crap.

The mental virus of fascist conservatism has rotted their minds.

Keep up the good work Dave.

Dave Dubya said...

Thanks, Les.
I confess I love triggering their racism and hate with facts they must vehemently deny or simply ignore. They have the emotional/intellectual maturity of adolescents.
They are WHY Trump gloated, "I love the poorly educated". Of course he doesn't love them, only himself, like every other sociopath.

Anonymous said...

STFU Shaw, no one is addressing you! If you gotta talk say something new!
Your little a broken record!

Your Mother said...

And Fuck you too Lester !

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,
Considering the polite and civil tone of your remark, "STFU Shaw, no one is addressing you", I regret to inform you that you are in fact wrong. I'm sure your error was a simple oversight of a simple mind, since I DID address Shaw. And guess what? YOU did too.

I have to admit, though, it is remarkably generous of you to permit Shaw to say something new.

Anonymous Mother,
How kind of you to demonstrate good parenting in reminding your "offspring" to convey additional reserves of hate for Lester. I'm sure he and I both emulate FDR in saying "I welcome their hatred", in response to greedy Wall Street swindlers, American bigots and Nazi supporters.

Anonymous said...

No matter who runs and wins? Man, some people on here act like it's a Trump Vs. Biden debate. I don't very much like Trump like I use to, but I'd take him over Biden any day of the week/month/year. Obvious DeSantis is my top pick, but if it came down to Trump being the one to win the election next year and turn America around then I'm all for it. Why can't some of the Trumpers on here be the same way if the tables were turned and it was DeSantis?

ACTUALLY ANYONE BUT THAT SHITHEAD BIDEN!

idol Gossip said...

President Potatoehead Biden claimed Wednesday that supporters of President Donald Trump killed five police officers during the violent January 6 protests on Capitol Hill.

The president commented on the January 6 riots during a speech in Superior, Wisconsin:

Dave Dubya said...


Anonymous,
Why don't you like Trump like you used to? I can't imagine you see through his lies and noticed his criminal behavior. Trump didn't actually turn America around to anything resembling respect for our elections, civil governing, and our history of peaceful transfer of power, did he?

IG,
What kind of potatohead can't spell "potato"?

Anonymous said...

Kiss my White ass Lester

J B said...

This POS BLOG is an extension of the Progressive POS !

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,
Lester doesn't live here, unlike what he seems to be doing rent-free in your head. And nobody is surprised you have a white ass. You may go back to your Klan meeting now.

J B,
Better progressive than regressive.
Thanks for showing us how easily hate flows from the enraged brainwashed cult mind.
This is what happens when you hold the words of Trump over those of Jesus, another progressive who condemned the greedy rich and religious hypocrites, and said, "render unto Caesar" your taxes, feed the poor and hungry, and care for the sick.
What a "commie", huh? No wonder you choose to worship Trump instead.

Les Carpenter said...

Well Dave, it surely appears as though the idiot brigade of tRumpistas are having a great time knashing their teeth and pulling their t'locks at their very own stupidity and delusions.

It is so much fun watching them make the usual asses of themselves .

Dave Dubya said...

Yes, Les. They are entertaining for someone with a sick sense of humor such as myself.

Their intellectual capacity is equal only to their emotional immaturity.

Too bad they are worse than asses. They are essentially a dangerous cult of neo-Nazis.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Anonymous said...
You can RANT YOUR STUPID ASININE MOUTH OFF ALL DAY.
NO ONE GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU SAY.
DICKFACE!

Anonymous said...
Hey Prick why don’t you ask that dumb female Jackass why SHE doesn’t publish the posts of Her Objectors ?
At least Ed gave you a chance to act normal, and you Failed!

Anonymous said...
STFU Shaw, no one is addressing you! If you gotta talk say something new!
Your little a broken record!

Your Mother said...
And Fuck you too Lester !

Anonymous said...
Kiss my White ass Lester

J B said...
This POS BLOG is an extension of the Progressive POS !


LOL! Those trolls from WYD are really upset because their favorite Stench Trench is closed and Bonderenka isn't allowing them to post anymore, so they have nowhere to go to post their illiterate puerile rantings.

It all comes down to the fact that they have nothing to say; they can't express that nothing in their native language; and their need for someone, anyone, to read their gobbledegook blather.

Comedy gold.



Dave Dubya said...

Shaw,
"Trump's Toddlers" can't help but show us what they really are.

idol Gossip said...

Le Carpenter talks about Republicans being “Stupid” when actually he is the must IGNORANT person on a Absolutely Retarded Blog.

Dave Dubya said...

Idol,

"Le" will be devastated by your insightful assessment and well-reasoned determination that he is the "must" ignorant person.

And we can conclude from your your advanced expository skill level that you can certainly be an authority on an Absolutely Retarded Blog.

All the best to you, son, and I hope you're having a good first month in 6th grade.

Anonymous said...

DD sounds like a member of the “Rainbow”
Crowd of “lady’s “

TOM said...

The queer”s., tranies, lesbians, what part of the LGBTQ’s are you?
You sound like you must be. lesbian. An I right?

Dave Dubya said...

Looks like I've become part of somebody's fantasies.
They seem far more curious about my private life than they are about the 91 criminal charges against their beloved Fuhrer.
Why is that?
Too bad they lack the verbal skills to communicate any ideas beyond their prejudice and ignorance.

Sgt. O'Toole said...

FT, or Franco was right, Lester, all that I get out of that is you're a Jew hater. Did I miss something, Adolph? And none of the kind loving Democrats on the board that you seem to hang out on object to your Jew hate, including the Queen, and the little Creep who runs this blog.

TOM said...

Its seems that you have an Obsession to YOUR Beloved Fuhrer.

Anonymous said...

Why does the Left fight racism but embrace Antisemitism?
The irony of course is that while the Left has made fighting prejudice against blacks one of its primary goals, it tolerates and even advances prejudice against the Jewish people, Marxism
Yet they seem to support Islamic and Communist , Black Nationalists and the embrace of Antisemitism, Moderate leftists turn to Antisemitism

Dave Dubya said...

Dear Trumpists,
Before I address your comments I'd like to ask you a simple question. WHY can't you address any of what I have written?

If that question is too difficult for you then I wonder if you're afraid to read it, or are just incapable of rational discourse. Or both.

Hmm?

Sgt. O'Toole,
Typical of all fascists and racists, you accuse someone with ZERO supporting evidence. Your hate and stupidity are glaring and prove you clearly ARE an ignorant asshole.

TOM,
Make your case with quotes, if you have the capacity to read and form thoughts into sentences.

Anonymous,
Your blather makes no sense and is completely unsupported by facts or evidence.

It's called projection. YOUR Fuhrer demonized the great majority of American Jews:

“Just a quick reminder for liberal Jews who voted to destroy America & Israel because you believed in false narratives! Let’s hope you learned from your mistake & make better choices moving forward! Happy New Year!”

A June poll found that US Jews overwhelming back Biden for reelection rather than Trump in a 2024 US presidential election matchup.

The survey of 800 registered Jewish voters, taken by the Jewish Electoral Institute, shows Biden leading Trump 72% to 22% among respondents.

This means 3/4ths of American Jews are on the left. Neo-Nazis are of the radical RIGHT.

It appears YOU embody the antisemitism you want to falsely accuse others of having.

But thank you for admitting "the Left has made fighting prejudice against blacks one of its primary goals".

In the meantime your fellow white supremacist Republicans in Alabama are ignoring court orders to end their racist gerrymandering AGAINST BLACKS.


Thinking said...

Trying to reason with, or trying to be civil with a insane party that lives off of anarchy, violence, lies, and deception as well as in your face theatrics such as the Progressives, Liberals, and Socialist Democrats has failed over decades. Progressives even think that the small number of right-wing conservatives in congress is the reason for all the issues that are disagreeable to them . These people are warning you. These insane people are blinded by their power. To really make you understand what your politicians are, pure nasty Hitler like people need to be elected in the Democracy you love to counteract you. You are past rights and are pushing us into a sci fi dystopian existence now. Take the INSANITY thinking of the Hitler Obsessed Moron who writes the Garbage right here on this very Blog for example of just how Moronic these Progressives are.
This Delusional Brain-washed leftist individual is beyond reality, but living in his own Comic book .

Dave Dubya said...

I was excited to finally get a comment from a “thinking” conservative. At last, someone to reason with, to share facts and information.

But alas, ‘twas not to be.

Instead of rational dialogue, I see the standard mindless, evidence-free talking points of the radical Right. Fortunately, my years of engaging with this extreme rhetoric have prepared me to the point where I’m not really disappointed, offended or angry. It’s just what they are. They cannot help it. Once the Trump koolade is swallowed, all morals, integrity, rationality, and decency go down the drain. They worship a horrible person who PRAISED thugs for terrorizing Congress and beating cops to overturn an election. No wonder neo-Nazis love Trump and see him as one of them.

I would hope that someone on the Right could read my post on “opinions” to understand the foundations, or lack thereof, that support opinions. But facts and evidence are never presented by the extremists on the Right. They jump immediately to name-calling and outrageously false accusations. They seem to live in a world where only the loudest voices matter, where emotion overrides reason.

I’m guessing English isn’t “thinking’s” first language as well. Is she Russian? From the photo we can assume “thinking” is a woman. (See? We KNOW what a woman is. ��)

Her broad denunciations and wild generalities really don’t convey any thinking at all. No facts. No reasoning. No evidence. Not even a quote of mine that she can dispute.
But somehow, she “thinks” I am “insane” and “blinded by power”. The only power I have is my vote that the Trump Cult has done their best to cancel. She failed to cite any of my words or evidence to support her accusations. As I’ve long contended, mere accusations are facts to the radical Right. Thinking is never the path to their conclusions.

“Thinking” misses the entire point of my references to Hitler and Nazis, which is to indicate the disturbing similarities the American far Right share with fascism. White nationalism, racism, hatred for educators, chanting at rallies, scapegoating minorities, and liberals, hatred and denial of democracy. Then there are their Big Lies, and their violent Putsches for power.
And let’s not forget demonizing Jews by both Hitler and Trump: “Just a quick reminder for liberal Jews who voted to destroy America & Israel because you believed in false narratives!”
THAT alone would move Hitler to applaud Trump from Hell.

I can reasonably deduce these angry authoritarian personalities DO NOT READ what I write. They always fail to cite any of my words and offer a cogent rebuttal to them.

Why should they? That’s not how the authoritarian mind operates. When in a constant state of indoctrinated FEAR, ATTACK becomes their conditioned response. Their emotional center in the amygdala does their “thinking”, as they skip past the higher functions of the cerebral cortex.

However, I’ll still thank “thinking” for the excuse to add these thoughts of mine.
And while I’m at it, let’s add some FACTS to see if “thinking” has any thoughts whatsoever to contribute:

By all counts, recounts, certifications, courts, and audits:

JOE BIDEN 51.3%
81,283,361 Popular votes, 306 Electoral

Donald (WAAH! Fraud! Rigged!) TRUMP 46.8%
74,222,960 Popular votes, 232 Electoral

I wonder, does “thinking” have any deep thoughts about these facts? Or is the word of Trump all she needs to define reality FOR her?

Dave Dubya said...

True to their pattern of avoiding addressing anything I write, these recent MAGAt droppings are the same old load of ignorant BS from our cult commenters.
But I’d like to just share a few of these gems.

“I love the poorly educated”: Exhibits 73,896,425 to 73,896,427.

“Your STILL as asshole!”

“…a LYING Traider to his country like Joe Biden”

“Fascism is an essential component of socialism and Marxism. The Nazi Party called itself Social Democrats”


As Orwell’s Big Brother says, “Ignorance is strength”.

Think said...

Im pleased as punch that you are getting to understand me. Because I understand you to a Tee. And what I see, I DESPISE IMMENSELY.

idol Gossip said...

Thank you for confirming what I already knew. You have no interest in, or ability to actually discuss the topic of LGBT kids and education. You're only intention was and still is to provoke outrage, and create a fest with your moronic friends that you know will validate your stupidity. I presented a alternative view and all that you can do is engage in Ad hominems and ridicule:

Dave Dubya said...

Think,
Thank you for validating my views.

We see you STILL can't find a single quote of mine to rationally dispute.

But you DO have your IGNORANCE, FEAR, ANGER and HATE to fall back on, don't you?

Was it the election results that flipped your trigger?

Or are you just too blind with rage to focus on any written words at all?

Have another gulp of Trump's (or Putin's) koolade, won't you?

Na Zdorovie, Tovarisch.

Dave Dubya said...

Idol,
Thank you for YOUR deflections, ridicule, and "ad hominems".

"... he is the must IGNORANT person on a Absolutely Retarded Blog...your moronic friends that you know will validate your stupidity."

So you want to discuss LGBT kids and education, and IGNORE the entire post I've written. You act like this is YOUR blog. Talk about a sense of entitlement.

I don't happen to support sexually explicit literature for elementary school kids. Nor do I support Republicans dictating what teachers can teach. There's nothing wrong about acknowledging same sex parents, since it IS the reality that kids see outside of school.

I invite you to cite any of my words if you want to dispute them. But for some reason you CAN'T.

So you whine, deflect and attack.

Why do you have a problem with good faith discussion? Is it because you need to turn a blind eye on what I actually SAY?


Anonymous said...

I'm a Restaurant owner, and I'd like to respond to many of the Complaints we get from our Customers. : Biden’s inflation has affected everyone, all areas of our economy- from direct food and labor costs to indirect costs like utilities and insurance.
The Prices have gone up on everything because our costs have gone up while profits go down because we can't keep pace with the increases from our suppliers
But we don't nickel and dime with credit card surcharges like many other restaurants do. !

So if you have any complaints about the HIGH prices in the Restaurants these day, Blame Joe Biden, and not us Restaurant owners.

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous restaurant owner,

I don't blame you for higher prices or global inflation. (It's falling now.) I generously tip restaurants despite higher prices. But you are lying to your customers.

IF it is "Biden's global inflation" then it was "Trump's covid pandemic".

Neither were the cause, but that fact is beyond the indoctrination of the Trump cult.

Why can't you blame prices on corporate greed, the global pandemic, and supply chain disruptions? Corporate profits are up to record levels, but you won't blame them??

Why can't you understand how supply and demand effect gas prices? Guess who controls "supply". It's not Biden, but TRUMP encouraged Russia and the Saudis to cut production to keep profits up.

Anonymous said...

“Im LYING TO MY CUSTOMERS “?

How DARE YOU say that ehen you don’t even know me, or ANYTHING about me or my business!
That’s EXACTLY why people don’t trust you and YOUR LYING, STORY TELLING PRESIDENT
Now Im sorry that I even came Here to have a discussion with you.
But I won’t make that mistake again!

Les Carpenter said...

The insatiable ignorance of your delusional former Stench Trench crowd of hyenas is quite entertaining actually Dave. I don't think i've ever come across so many willfully clueless individuals as exists in the tRump republicon circus of idiots.

Keep up the important work of shaming these halfwits.

Suzanne said...

The FBI claims there were so many informants - and undercover FBI agents - in tbe J6 crowd THEY don't even know how many there were.

Does anyone understand why they felt they had to cover it up, and decided to blame it all on Donald J Trump?

Because Nancy Pelosi is guilty of a criminal conspiracy.

It is undeniably clear that Democrats / the FBI NEVER tried to PREVENT J6 from happening but instead ran J6 as a setup by the House Democrats.

idol Gossip said...

Why are you people defending Biden when everything he touches turns to shit, including this economy?
Lemme guess, you're also enjoying those high gas prices, high grocery prices and high crime rates.
Maybe because you don’t love your country enough?
If so maybe you should think about learning Chinese?

Thinking said...

The Socialist-Democrats led by Mr. Potatohead is seriously considering a per-mile gas tax would require some sort of a surveillance device into your vehicle that could be used for everything, from setting your Insurance rates, monitoring and punishing driving infractions, tracking your location, and even reporting on your personal communications via the car’s built-in communications systems. The actually proposed system uses a smartphone app for its connectivity and possibly data collection points as ubiquitous as roadside license plate readers.
This is not a big joke, but another insane idea from our current Vegetable- In Chief.
This Bottom line will result to …living in a police state, and it’s getting much worse.
And the obvious way to cancel this INSANITY is to Vote the Crazed Progressive Communist Democrats out of office.
Otherwise I’d advise you to think of the consequences

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous restaurant owner,

You ARE lying by saying global inflation caused by the pandemic and corporate greed is "Biden's inflation".

Or you do also believe that it was "Trump's covid"?

If you can't see the falsehood of your double standard, of course you'll never understand what I'm saying. As long as you BELIEVE it is "Biden's global inflation", you'll never know it is a lie. I'm smart enough to not blame Trump for covid, although his poor handling of the message of its lethality no doubt contributed to many Americans dying from it.

And you may want to consider your mindless blaming of Biden for global inflation could lose you HALF YOUR CUSTOMERS.

Perhaps you should reevaluate your decision to blame Biden.

I would NOT patronize your restaurant. Most Americans who understand global inflation was NOT caused by Biden would prefer to dine elsewhere. But you probably live in a small white community so you wouldn't lose much business.

But still, YOU LIED to your customers. You OPINION is NOT a FACT.

Thinking said...

Isn't it AMAZING how this Guy Dave Dubya BLAMES everything ON TRUMP, even the High cost of eating at a Restaurant
Mr. Meathead, or Potato-Head totally Owns this Inflation Nothing that Trump did with Putin has a single thing to do with it.

How about blaming it on Biden throwing Money at all those Millions of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, giving them Free Housing, Free Food, Free Clothing, Free Cell-Phones!
Forgetting that that money is OUR tax Money, not his!
And because of it, We American citizens are doing with that new Car this year, and that Vacation we usually take, and the New clothes that our kids may need for school. Did Mr. Dubya think about those FACTS? I doubt it, as long as he can Blame Bush, then he's satisfied.
Well Mr. Dubya, I personally think that you and your stories are a load of BS.

Anonymous said...

Dave Dubya said..."But still, YOU LIED to your customers. You OPINION is NOT a FACT."


AND I SUPPOSE THAT YOUR OPINION IS FACT, BECAUSE YOU SAY SO.

Dave Dubya said...

Suzanne,
Thank you for your input. Your allegations and statements bring a few questions to mind.

If you have evidence of Pelosi's "criminal conspiracy", would you share it?

Can you tell me why the FBI would want to reveal information on confidential informants?

Can you also tell me HOW the FBI could have prevented the mob's attack on our Capitol that TRUMP ORDERED TO OVERTURN OUR ELECTION?

And why can't you blame Trump for SENDING HIS MOB to the Capitol? HE ALONE DID THAT.

And if the FBI actually could have prevented it, how much would TRUMP and people like you HOWL about "deep state" interference and violation of rights?

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
They are indeed a cult of the "poorly educated", as they love to demonstrate for us.

-

Idol Gossip,
I love my country enough to condemn your Dear Leader's criminal war on truth, decency and democracy. Why do YOU hate America?

"Thinking",
The Washington Post reports:

“Two states tax some drivers by the mile. Many more want to give it a try.”

States are leading the way, with Oregon and Utah launching the first programs and several others running pilots to test technology and build public support. The approach has bipartisan support in Washington...Utah’s program was launched last year and has enrolled more drivers than Oregon’s. A dozen states are considering legislation this year to update, launch or study programs, including California — where the governor wants to end sales of gas-powered cars by 2035 — and Wyoming.

At the federal level, the idea of taxing mileage has gained traction in both parties as leaders promise an infusion of spending on transportation infrastructure, even as lawmakers disagree on how to pay the bill.

The federal government has issued tens of millions of dollars in grants to back state projects exploring mileage-based tax programs. A bill that passed the House last year would have set up a national pilot program to tax vehicles by miles driven, and a Senate committee endorsed the idea. The Federal Highway Administration is beginning to explore how a pilot program might work, a spokeswoman said.

Sales of electric vehicles account for about 2 percent of annual new-car sales, with some forecasts projecting that number to grow rapidly...Surveys of drivers involved in pilot programs revealed questions of privacy and data security as top concerns. Many environmentalists also are opposed, saying that taxing gasoline also is also an effective tax on carbon dioxide emissions. Under a miles-driven system, the highest-emission vehicles stand to gain a tax break.



Do you really "think" Utah is run by socialist democrats?

Gas taxes are how we pay for roads.

And while you're busy "thinking", what is your solution to vast underfunding for roads due to covid and more electric vehicles on the road?

"Free market capitalism" won't work this time, because they are PUBLIC roads.

This is your big opportunity to solve the issue.

Dave Dubya said...

Thinking,
As Anonymous quaintly put it, "You OPINION is NOT a FACT".

Your "thinking" has conjured up your imaginary statement that I made. "Dave Dubya BLAMES everything ON TRUMP, even the High cost of eating at a Restaurant."

Perhaps it's harder for you to read than to think? And how about you show us your "thinking" that determined how Biden alone caused global inflation?

(We know you'll ignore this because you don't really employ facts and reason to THINK. You just BELIEVE Trump. Same with the angry restaurant owner and Anonymous who falsely blame Biden for global inflation.)

If anyone would like to discuss my points on "Opinions: Belief v Fact", it is here.

Thinking said...

I guess that you’d rather bely Biden then. Well good for you!

Dave Dubya said...

Thinking,
I suppose I would rather believe Biden than Trump.

I do know Biden says a lot of stupid things and has told some lies, but Trump is the liar who denied our election, and committed crimes to overturn it.

NOT ONE Trumpist has shown evidence, or would swear to it under oath, that disputes this:

By all counts, recounts, certifications, courts, and audits:

JOE BIDEN 51.3%
81,283,361 Popular votes, 306 Electoral

Donald (WAAH! Fraud! Rigged!) TRUMP 46.8%
74,222,960 Popular votes, 232 Electoral

From: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3531342-rusty-bowers-says-giuliani-told-him-weve-got-lots-of-theories-we-just-dont-have-the-evidence/

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any.

“My recollection, he said, ‘We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,’” Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday’s hearing.

“And I don’t know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn’t think through what he said, but both myself and others in my group … both remember that specifically, and afterwards we kind of laughed about it,” Bowers added.


If YOU have the verifiable evidence they failed to find, please share it.


Anonymous said...

Keep your insults for Shaws blog please

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,

Interesting request...

You might be surprised how many Trumpists leave only name-calling insults for me to delete.

idol Gossip said...


·
Joe Biden’s first Two Years
The Highest crime rates in decades
Afghanistan was taken by the Taliban
Crippling debt and inflation
CDC discredited
The DOJ fully weaponized
The Border crisis
America Is No longer energy independent

If your goal was to destroy America you’ve
succeeded

Anonymous said...

Well, I Am NOT One Of Those, So STOP With The Insults Or I will Never Return Here Again.

To Me, the Democrats may be as great as they think they are. But they wouldn’t be missed, if they ceased to exist!
I think it's much too bad the Founders didn't make LYING in PUBLIC STATEMENTS a CAPITAL OFFENSE.

One of the Ten Commandments is THOU SALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR, is it not?
That is ALL we hear from the DEFECRATS and the GLOBALIST-COMMUNISTS these days.

Maybe if a few hundred of these vicious Bastards were made to face a FIRING SQUAD on national TV they might at least modify their treacherous tactics a bit, don't you think? I do!
If You Were A God-Damned Fool Who Voted For HILLARY, You Ought to be Horsewhipped, Tarred, Feathered, and Ridden Out of Our Lives on a Flaming Rail, Along With Her!

Dave Dubya said...


Idol,

Thank you for your less-than-informed opinions.

If your goal is to demonize fellow Americans, you've not succeeded by citing facts.

Would you object to my sharing some FACTS?

Do you really think the crime rate is influenced by who is president?

In 2020 under Trump the crime rate was higher than the past two decades, even under Obama:
See for yourself:
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/crime-rate-statistics

Trump made the deal to withdraw from Afghanistan, which happens to be the HOME of the Taliban, whom HE wanted to invite to Camp David.

Donald Trump promised to eliminate the national debt. It was $23.1 trillion when he entered office. It was $30.9 trillion when he left. That's $7,800,000,000,000 in his FOUR YEARS.

25% of the ENTIRE debt in the history of America was run up by Trump, with a GOP-led Congress in cahoots.

The CDC was discredited by whom, and how? Or is just your uninformed opinion?

So the DOJ is weaponized? State your facts that justify this claim. Is the DOJ "weaponized" against Democratic Senator Menendez, who they just indicted? Or do you have a double standard because Trump is a criminal that you trust as if he were your savior?

Have you actually READ the INDICTMENTS against Trump? If not, then what do you really know about his cases? Whatever he says is gospel to you, right?

I agree the border is a mess, but it's been for decades. Did you know Republicans REFUSED to pass border funding with Democrats? Betcha didn't.

Did you know US oil production is HIGHER now than under Trump in 2020?

See for yourself:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

How about you learn a little more so we can have a rational and informed discussion? Of course the easiest and laziest thing is to just believe Trump, isn't it?


Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,
Thank you for declaring you are not one of those who leave the insults. How will I be able to tell whether an anonymous comment is yours or someone else? Seriously, how? Add an identifier to show us. Why hide behind anonymity if you have the integrity to stand by your words?

What makes you think Trump would be alive if lying was a capital offense? Do you really think he's a saint who never lies? I mean, really? If you do, you are in a cult.

I try to verify what politicians say because they ALL say dishonest or incorrect things.

So you don't think "DEFECRATS" and "God-Damned Fool" are insults? Maybe you should compile a list of terms to help us conform to YOUR DEMANDS.

Your anger and hate are quite intense, to want to murder Democrats without so much as a trial and conviction by jury. Is that what you BELIEVE the founders wanted? You're quite wrong if you think they wanted summary executions.

Maybe Adolf Hitler would be leader more to your liking if that's your idea of governing. Or perhaps you should consider moving to Russia where KGB Putin has people killed for opposing him.

Have you ever wondered why Trump loves to PRAISE dictators? I assume you agree with him.

Les Carpenter said...

Ignorance abd Delusion be your calling. You excel at both.

Les Carpenter said...

The more intelligent question is... why the hell are you suppirting a rapist ans insurrectionist?

Les Carpenter said...

Shouldn't YOU be thinking period? Cause it sure sounds like you're caught in the void of the unknowing sheeples of the tRumpian crime syndicate.

Les Carpenter said...

Apparently your pea sized mental faculty never acheived full maturation "Thinking". Because you would be seriously challenged in a debate with my 8 year old grandson.

Les Carpenter said...

Pull your head out of your anus and see the light of day. Your IQ appears to be approximately 80 based on your comment content. Suggestion. Return to school and earn your HS degree. I know tRump said he loves the uneducated. But really?

Les Carpenter said...

Dave.. Those Stench Trench and WYD termites sure are having a blast making asses of themselves. It's comical for awile but spending too much time reading and responding to the sheer idiocy of these fascist loving tRump worshippers can be dangerous for ones sanity. After all, look what happened to them listening to and believing the man with a record over 5 years of over 30,000 known lies. Not to even mention the Big Lie.

These people from the Stink Tank and WYD may love their country but they must hate democracy, liberty, and the rule of law. Either that or they are don't have a clue what any of those words mean.

Dave Dubya said...



Les,

I ended up writing my next post in response to your observation:

"It's comical for a while but spending too much time reading and responding to the sheer idiocy of these fascist loving tRump worshippers can be dangerous for ones sanity."

The comedic value is a convenient safety valve. Having a sick sense of humor and not taking anything personally really help maintain sanity. And yes, it is a danger to one's sanity to continue doing the same thing in hopes of a different response.

I just don't expect a different response. ;-)


Dave Dubya said...

One more thing, Les.

You are entitled to give it to them soundly.
I've deleted quite a number of foul and nasty invectives directed at you.

Les Carpenter said...

Well Dave, i consider it a High Honor and Extreme Privilege to be reviled by the likes of the trash that worship tRump and his fascist trimmings. I would be mortified if they actually liked me.

Les Carpenter said...

Your anger and hatred for the good shall be your eventual undoing anon. Seek professional help before it's too late.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,

As FDR said about the "economic royalists" who called him a "traitor to his class", "I welcome their hatred".

Les Carpenter said...

Dave i do not expect the constricted choked minds of these people to change either. Simply put the reification of their illusion of reality renders them incapable of seeing anything as it actually is. I just hope the awake and aware folks remain in the overwhelming majority.

Suzanne said...

Les Carpenter said...

"The more intelligent question is... why the hell are you suppirting a rapist ans insurrectionist?"


Or the More important question as far as I am concerned is... Why are YOU "SUPPIRTING" a stupid childish, Obsessed Moronic Progressive Blog author.???

Frank Clayburn said...


In MY OPINION “These people from the STINK TANK” are YOU Lester, and Dave Miller as well.
And the "STINK TANK" is the Progressive Eruptions Blog.

Dean Robenson said...

It seems to me that Dave Dubya’s unrestrained eugenics is not the only thing out of the Third Reich that The Progressive Queen has found cause to celebrate.
If not, maybe Dave Dubya, and Lester Carpenter the buffoon. will stop giving standing ovations to Hitler's SS henchmen.
Then again, they are Democratic Socialists. Those socialists need to stick together!

Dean Robenson said...

Why don't these Idiotic Progressives in that Idiotic Blog POS admit that these is ZERO proof there was ever any so called "Big Lie." The only real big lie is calling blatant cheating in an election as the Democrats did IS A "BIG LIE"!

Biff Poindexter said...

How this one for a Major SCREW UP, by your Retarded President!

Joe Biden made a pretty big mistake the other day when he was speaking to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus as he forgets LL Cool J's Name, and calls Him “Boy” at a Congressional Black Caucus Event!

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
I published a few more examples of their "choked minds" and illusions.

No doubt their family history contains the group Harry Truman mentioned:

“Socialism is a scare word they've hurled at every advance the people have made. Socialism is what they called public power, social security, deposit insurance, and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for anything that helps all people.”

And their ignorance is truly astounding if they think FDR was no different from Hitler, who their cult is indoctrinated to believe was a "democratic socialist".

Do they think Hitler was pro-democracy? Of course not. They don't think at all. They react and regurgitate.

Dean Robenso's blithering hateful nonsense about eugenics and Nazi sympathies is pure fantasy, of course. He can't string coherent sentences together, let alone show reason behind his raging accusations.

I won't publish any more of his ignorance unless he makes an attempt to rationally justify his babble.

Frank Clayburn is similarly unable to put a rational thought together to support his OPINION.

As we know, a cult doesn't need to think.

We can't blame poor Suzanne from deflecting from her Trump worship. She's incapable of considering the fact he is a liar, let alone a sex offender and insurrectionist who destroy our proud tradition of peaceful transfer of power.

Imagine the deep fear and anger that lurks in their indoctrinated brains. Their thinking is so disconnected they can only resort to childish name calling in mindless defense of their beloved dear leader.

It's not clear if she's projecting towards me or someone else with "a stupid childish, Obsessed Moronic Progressive Blog author".

Then again, we can't expect clear thinking and formed ideas from these poor cultists.

And as always, these clowns show no indication of reading anything from my original posts.

Dave Dubya said...

Hey, Dean.

Put your brain to work and process some facts. Then if you have any thoughts or information that disproves any of these, how about sharing your deep insight?

Real history:

Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected.
Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote.
Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned.
Only 1 President has ever been criminally indicted.
Only ONE has done ALL FOUR.

The 2020 election:

By all counts, recounts, certifications, courts, and audits:

JOE BIDEN 51.3%
81,283,361 Popular votes, 306 Electoral

Donald (WAAH! Fraud! Rigged!) TRUMP 46.8%
74,222,960 Popular votes, 232 Electoral


News Flash!

By the facts and evidence shown in the indictments, TRUMP committed crimes.

INDICTED for his Mar-A-Lago Documents Crimes

Counts 1-31: 18 USC 793(e) Willful Retention of National Defense Information
Count 32: 18 U.S. Code § 1512(k) Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice
Count 33: 18 U.S. Code § 1512(b) Withholding a Document or Record
Count 34: 18 U.S. Code § 1512(c) Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record
=
INDICTED on FOUR CRIMINAL COUNTS for his 2020 election interference.

Count 1: 18 U.S.C. § 371 (Conspiracy to Defraud the United States)
Count 2: 18 U.S. C. § 1512(k) (Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 3: 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2 (Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241 (Conspiracy Against Rights)
=
In Georgia Trump is charged with:

Criminal racketeering under Georgia’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act
Soliciting a public officer to violate their oath
Conspiring to impersonate a public officer
Conspiring to commit forgery with false electors
Conspiring to commit false statements
Making false statements
Conspiring to file false documents

Dave Dubya said...

"Biff" is still shocked by a Biden gaffe? LL Cool J. isn't offended.

The president quickly corrected himself. "By the way that boy — that man's got biceps bigger than my thighs."

The same manufactured “outrage” was stirred when critics say he “confused” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy with Russian President Putin and referred to him as "Vladimir".

“Vladimir” and “Volodymyr” are variants of the same Slavic root. The first is Russian and the second, Ukrainian. How different are "Vladimir" and “Volodymyr”. He didn’t “confuse” Putin with Zelenskyy.

I’d love to hear Biff repeat those two names to see how similar they sound.

idol Gossip said...

Instead of INSULTING your commenters try to discuss thingy, Im sure those people you called those CHILDISH names won’t br comp back, as I won’t.

Biff Poindexter said...

Its Unbelievable stupidity for DAVE DUBYA to post such ridiculous crapy insulting replies to his commenting people.
Glad to see he is getting crucified in their responses.
I for one won’t be returning to this SHIT-Hole

idol Gossip said...

talk about lunancy on display here and elsewhere…. Lester is the Champion of LUNACY.
By the way Lester, check out the correct spelling of “LUNACY”.

Dave Dubya said...

Did they even READ this?

Dear Trumpists,
Before I address your comments I'd like to ask you a simple question. WHY can't you address any of what I have written?

If that question is too difficult for you then I wonder if you're afraid to read it, or are just incapable of rational discourse. Or both. Hmm?


Instead Idol Gossip is outraged: "Instead of INSULTING your commenters try to discuss thingy, Im sure those people you called those CHILDISH names won’t br comp back, as I won’t."

This was AFTER he spewed: "a fest with your moronic friends that you know will validate your stupidity. I presented a alternative view and all that you can do is engage in Ad hominems and ridicule."

Priceless projection.

Thank you for your comments that ignore the post I've written. Very helpful.

And Biff,
Thank YOU for your valuable input. We'll miss you.

Les Carpenter said...

Perhaps it is because the blog proprietor of the progressive blog you are referring to 1) backs up her posts with credible supporting data (truth), 2) her intelligence, decency, and patriotism exceeds that of all tRumper trash weblogs, and 3) i simply frequent credible, fact filled sites where the possibility of learning something new always exists. You ought to try it sometime Suzie.

BTW, i will support whatever and whoever i choose. I support reality and truth. Unlike you who support lies, delusions, obscurations as well as a facist leaning authoritarian with 91 criminal indictments. In addition to being a rapist and insurrectionist. Not to mention a shitty president.

Have a fine day Suzue.

Les Carpenter said...

Can't speak for my friend Dave, frankie, but, your opinions are worth about as much as the left over stew i tossed in the trash can last night.

And, i feel honored that you hate me. So, keep on hating frankie boy.

Les Carpenter said...

I wish to acknowledge your high level of delusion and obscuration. Such a depressed state of actual awareness is a wondrous phenomenon. I sincerely appreciate your willingness to render yourself so completely vulnerable dean r.

Les Carpenter said...

Let me know when you've pulled your head out from the dark place you aparently keep it and i'll enlighten you.

The sages of wisdom await your awakening.

Les Carpenter said...

It is truly astounding how completely oblivious these people are to their own embarrassing willful ignorance. They are all, each and every one of them, so marinated in tRump and the gop lies and and conspiracy bullshit they've all lost any ability to use logic or reason to arrive at a mature and sensible determination.

These people apparently accept as truth anything and everything they want to believe and then securely attach themselves to their illusions, delusions, and obscurations so tightly it's impossible for them to ever acknowledge their errors to themselves.

I'm guessing these people are not all "bad" people per se. But they have chosen to believe in a very sick man who is exactly that, a very bad person. He proves it regulary.

Les Carpenter said...

Excellent responses Dave... your honesty and integrity makes these whiny little tRumpian sheeple knash their teeth all the day long.

BRAVO! Keep em knashing!

Les Carpenter said...

I'm flattered by your words idol gossip gimp.

Your disdain for me is received as a high compliment. If you were to say something nice about me it would scare the hell out if me. Given your political leanings and the rapist/insurrectionist you love to support.

Dave Dubya said...

Yes, Les.

But how long will they keep me hanging?

Are we now facing the truth that they are indeed "afraid to read it, or are just incapable of rational discourse or both"?

Can it be that they just don't want to learn what they don't want to know? And they don't need to read anything at all because they've already been TOLD by their masters that everything said by someone not loyal to dear leader is a lie.

Gosh, but that sounds a lot like a cult, doesn't it?

I continue to tingle with anticipation.

Les Carpenter said...

It's a wonderful day when the screaming hyenas of the radical right wing in the US put on display their whining victimhood and willful ignorance. More and more folks are beginning to understand their cultish fetish with a dangerous former president who just happens to be a rapist/insurrectionist.

Dean Robenson said...

Les Carpenter said...

"Let me know when you've pulled your head out from the dark place you aparently keep it and i'll enlighten you.
The sages of wisdom await your awakening."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
By the way Asshole
"aparently" has 2 P's spelled "apparently".
So get YOUR head out from your ASSHOLE, and YOU may be Awakened!

Dean Robenson said...

Thank you for printing that.
I'm sure the ASSHOLE LESTER will appreciate it.

I know that I appreciate it. :)

Dean Robenson said...

By the way:
Any informed normal person who has been following Biden’s situation knows that there is nothing “mild “about His cognitive impairment, meaning that it is FAR from being a “Mild Case” and that It is a serious Major Case.
Don’t put all your emphasis on his stuttering, stammering etc. which has been a large part of Biden's problems with his statements since he arrived in office. But Biden had gone from someone who articulates and stutters, and stammering in his commentary, along with his stammering and incoherence to a strong INABILITY to finish his sentences, so there is a real concern, and a reason for major concern. And the fact that he wants to run again for a second term would be disastrous.

And PLEASE don’t answer this by saying... "But TRUMP!, but what about TRUMP".
Trump DOESN’T get mixed up by shaking hands with the Thin Air, or gets lost between Marine One and the White House door, and lets not forget the whispering and outbursts of Rage, at reporters, or getting his Sister and his Wife mixed up? And he certainly didn’t call the Vice President “Mr President”! Or forget the way, and when to walk off the stage!
Biden has obviously declined from the years that he was the Vice Precedent do think that he shouldn't be President currently, and he shouldn’t run for reelection that's for sure.

Sal Demarco said...

Can someone explain to me why people attack the idea of "Make America Great Again" (known as MAGA") ? So please, if you are able to, please tell me what is wrong with "Making America Great Again"

Do you remember going to the moon?
Do You remember when housing was affordable?
And do you remember when Detroit ruled the world with its cars?
Remember when you kids could go play safely at the neighborhood park?
Remember when we were able to keep our doors
UN-LOCKED/
Remember when jobs were plentiful and you could support your family on one?
Remember when we allowed our Children to play outside on the street without ANY worries? I remember when I could play in the park in the 1950's, and my Mother didn’t even think twice about it.
Remember when the doctor made house calls?
Remember D-Day and the Liberation of Europe?
Remember the Greatest Generation?

Who doesn’t long for the days when America was Great? I'll tell you who: DEMOCRATS.

The Democrats hate freedom, they hate America, they are promoting Socialism, they are the enemy of everything that is good and descent. They promote sodomy and sexualizing children and murdering babies by abortion. From the days of slavery, which democrats fight for, to today, Democrats have been a satanic evil entity.

Real Americans love America and want to "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"
Beware of those who mock the acronym MAGA. They are very likely your enemy.... Remember you can NOT reason with a Liberal! Period. .

TOM said...

The Bitter two time Loser Hillary Clinton is Attacking Donald Trump Again as she Pushes Russia Collusion Hoax
Hillary needs to be deported to Libya. She needs to repay this country for every dime wasted on her false Russia Hoax. Even Comey testified no votes were switched to Trump because of Russian meddling.
Hillary couldn’t even shine Sarah Palin’s shoes when it come to Honesty. How can anyone who is even thinking of running for the Presidency not recall whether or not she wiped her server clean, when she had a professional do it? And then asked if it’s done with wiping it with a “cloth”! It's a simple yes or no question! If she is that incompetent, Hillary is a lying son of a bitch, she should not be running.
Hillary is and always has been a hideous candidate, even for a Democrat! How can anyone take a cheating Lying evil women like her serious? She’s a lot more dangerous than Donald Trumps Hair!
The Hildabeast is in some deluded state of greatness seems to think the American public is buying her lies such as landing in Bosnia under fire, and the list goes on and on and on... The democrats are NOT drinking plain old Kool-Aid, anymore. Now, their drinking Hillary's Douche Water. Because it takes an extra level of stupidity to look past the LYING, the STEALING, and the INFLUENCE PEDDLING.

And these FOOL’S on the left believe her LIES about Benghazi? As if that’s a big joke! Jeff Foxworthy should be asking her if she’s “Smarter than a Fifth Grader”! These Clinton’s are disgusting.
Lets see now, Hillary Clinton. The wife of an impeached President. The Failed Secretary of State. The Serial liar. Her husband gets caught with his pants down, and she gets caught with her Pant-Suit on. What a lovely combnation they make.

And just for the record, lets look at her “Accomplishments”
Hillary is too old.
She chalked up more air miles than any other Secretary of State!
She's lies more often any other Secretary of State!.
Remember Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! The worst of all, when not only did she lie about Benghazi, but she failed to act in response to the attack, and 4 Americans DIED.
But, at this point, what difference does any of this make!
We can’t forget her e-mail scandal.
Her Zero record of accomplishment.
She was fired during the Watergate investigation.
Remember her words about Iraq and other conflicts.
Her Dodging Sniper Bullets in Bosnia, with her lying daughter, and then “misspoke” about it.
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base".
Daughter Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center during the September 11th attack.
She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first two men to climb Mt. Everest.
Her family was dead broke when they left the White House, when they only made $12 MILLION the year after Bill Clinton’s Presidency. I guess when you’re used to living off the taxpayer’s paying for your vacations, private airfare, security, food, housing, and all, those things, you forget about the few millions that you have socked away..
And Now She Blames Her Lawyers
Should I continue?
And this is the lying, arrogant, abomination that these Democrats want for their president? She’s even worse that Obama was if that is at all possible. !
If Hillary would have become president, we would have been involved in another prolonged war, our nations secrets would have been given away in a quid pro quo scheme, the Ministry of Truth would be in full effect. Taxes would have been raised. The ineffective Covid shot and boosters would have been mandatory. Jan 6th would look like a picnic in the park compared to the liberal riots for Justice. Yeah we dogged a huge skanky bullet in her humiliation of a defeat, thank god she stuffed the wrong ballot boxes. But we lucked out and Hillary lost

Dave Dubya said...

TOM,
Seems like Hillary isn't the only bitter one here. :-)

She lost to Trump. Get over it. And she didn't send a mob to terrorize Congress and beat cops to overturn the election. We can tell your "values" by your anger at her and indifference to Trump saying, "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude (His Big LIE) allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

Trump lost to Biden. Get over it.

By all counts, recounts, certifications, courts, and audits:

JOE BIDEN 51.3%
81,283,361 Popular votes, 306 Electoral

Donald (WAAH! Fraud! Rigged!) TRUMP 46.8%
74,222,960 Popular votes, 232 Electoral

Ciceroni Excogitatoris said...

Latest poll from Harvard/Harris has Trump ahead of Biden by 4 points in the national vote, and ahead an average of 6 points in the swing states.
The media is panicking like never before.
At this point, unless you're living under a rock, you've seen at least two or three "Left-leaning" outlets begin to criticize Biden and/or pontificate about the precarity of him running again given his age and low approval.
So now the desperation is kicking in.

They're finally beginning to accept another Trump term is not only possible, but incredibly likely to happen.

Time to think up some new reason to Indite Donald Trump about something! Anything, but it needs to be more serious thab what we have already done. And nothing that has already been done is seeming to work. We have already had Hillary attack him for fixing the election against her, and that went nowhere.
Perhaps he can be involved with Putin’s war in Ukraine? Or maybe the reason why Madonna had to cancel her Tour?
Maybe we can connect him to the Black Lives Matter movement?
The hilarious part is we keep on with the indictments, the bad press, and interviews to get Trump and it only seems to help Trump. But the REALLY hilarious part is that even when this has happened over and over and over again, they continue doing the same thing. You just have to bang these people in the head and say, Hello! Is anyone listening?

Ciceroni Excogitatoris said...

Hey Dave you for to say..
Did Trump try to weaponize the Taliban and did we the USA hand over SIX BILLION DOLLARS arms and equipment to that Terrorist bunch of Bastards?
Hummmm
I don't remember Trump ever doing a STUPID thing like that, nor do I think that he ever would!

Suzanne said...

I LOVED TOM'S Post. I Simply Loved IT, All Of It!!

Les Carpenter said...

Thank YOU for once again doing what you do SO well deano beano.

Proving your're a hate filled whittle whining caricature of a real man.

Now you have a fabulous day.

TheGreatSatan said...

Les Carpenter said...

The new face of criminality and gangster activity... The tRump Crime Family. Elevated to the Highest Office in the Land circa 2017 - 2021.

America in decline. Authoritarianism on the rise. Supported by the MAGAt's and the the party of tRump the Insurrectionist and Rapist.
True conservatism, before being corrupted completely by tRump the rapist/insurrectionist ex president and McConnell the ghoulish looking senator from Kentucky, and the now fascist leaning gop was actually a functioning and sometimes effective political party. Now it's nothing but a bunch of sick MAGAt hacks playing russian roulette with the nation's future.


LESTER SEEKS TO BE A BIT ANGRY!
HIS POSTS ARE GETTING MORE, AND MORE MEANINGLESS, STUPID, AND LESS UNDERSTANDABLE. i THINK THAT IT'S HIGH TIME THAT HE IS PUT IN THE LOONY BIN WITH THE REST OF THE PSYCHO'S, TO MAKE SURE THAT HE DOESN'T HURT HIMSELF. .

Dave Dubya said...

Sal,
Yes, we know. like every white nationalist. you yearn for the days when Blacks "knew their place" and were denied voting and civil rights.

Remember the middle class grew when the rich and corporations paid higher taxes and unions were negotiating for jobs that could support a family. So Republicans declared war on them.

"If you are able to, please tell me what is wrong with "Making America Great Again".

Nothing is wrong with making America great. The question is WHAT makes America great.

Democrat JFK first made the moon missions a national goal, and promoted the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. Democrat LBJ came through on all of these goals.

Punishing people you hate does not make America great.

Sending a violent mob to overturn an election by terrorizing Congress and beating cops does NOT make America great.

Ending our proud history of peaceful transfer of power does NOT make America great.

No politician has dishonored and brought more shame to our country than Trump.

As I just noted, UNIONS made America great. Civil Rights and voting rights made America great. The New Deal helped Americans through the Depression. Democrat FDR was one of Hitler's worst enemies.

All WERE OPPOSED by conservative Republicans.

Auto executives busted unions and off-shored their jobs. We the people had to bail them out anyway.

And millions of kids can still play safely in parks. Not everybody lives in fear as much as you do.



Dean Robenson said...

In some of the polling results that Dave has posted here
Shows that Biden is leading Trump in some of the polls. This ONLY goes to show that Even the left wing media doesn’t believe the left wing media any longer.
Or that Dave is mistaken. AGAIN!

Dave Dubya said...

Dean,
It would be helpful if you could actually CITE my words that are mistaken and show me why. Why can't you do that?

Ciceroni Excogitatoris,
So you don't remember when Trump wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David?

And you have no idea why Trump has been indicted? Try reading the indictments and get back to me.

Trump's cult will ALWAYS worship their leader, no matter what. They have shown their willingness to KILL and DIE for him. Why? Because it's a cult.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris said...

Ciceroni Excogitatoris,
So you don't remember when Trump wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David?


So you tell me WAS THAT AS IGNORANT AS BIDEN'S IGNORAMUS DECISION ON HOW TO WITHDRAW TROOPS FROM AFGHANISTAN?

YOUR'S SO FREAKEN SMART, SO YOU TELL US!

Ciceroni Excogitatoris said...

"And you have no idea why Trump has been indicted?"

NO IT'S OBVIOUS WHY HE WAS INDITED! TO HURT HIS CHANCES OF WINNING TH ELECTION. NO OTHER REASON. SORRY IF YOU ARE TOO DUMB, OR BLIND TO SEE THAT!

Les Carpenter said...

Why thank you for your hate TGS. Perhaps it is you, the all cap guy, who is angry and belongs in the loony bin.

Let it all out great satan. Relieve your hatred on me. I've very broad shoulders and your whiny little emotional fart is but a nothing burger. Go on, give me your best shot oh great satan. I relish your hatred of me.

Dean Robenson said...




I REALLY, AND TRULY SUGGEST THAT WE ALL STOP POSTING HERE IN THIS SHIT-HOLE EXTENSION OF THE PROGRESSIVE SHIT-HOLE.
THE AUTHOR HERE LIKE THE AUTHOR AT THE OTHER SHIT-HOLE LIES LIKE A RUN, AND SEEMS TO BE BOTH BLIND AND DUMB AND OBSESSED WITH THE FACT THAT BIDEN IS A MORON, AND TRUMP KNOWS EXACTLY HOW TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN ALTHOUGH THE ASININE DEMOCRATS DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING. OR DOING ALL THIS SHIT INTENTIONALLY ,

I FOR ONE AN OUT OF HERE, I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU ALL FOLLOW.

Les Carpenter said...

Nope. But he sure as hell rapes and incites insurrection attempts. Just your kinda guy eh?

Les Carpenter said...

May tRump rot in prison for his rapes and insurrection. As well as his fascist bully tactics.

Les Carpenter said...

TOM's Back! With his typical whiny half baked BS.

Hey TOMMY, looking for a new place to spill your delusions and horseshit, eh.

Well Dave ain't Lisa, and this isn't the stinky putrid Stench Trench.

But i must say your obscurations and delusions are quite deep as well as damaging. Your karma will haunt you TOMMY. So ger ready for it.

Les Carpenter said...

Maybe it is because sane people realize America was already great. Before tRump the rapist/insurrectionist ex presnit.

It is tRump, and his fascist minions, that is bent on destroying our democratic republic. Not the liberals or the DNC. It is actually the SOB's you support that are.

Dave Dubya said...

Bye, Dean.
Thank you for your anger and inability to offer facts and reasoning.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris,
You think I'm dumb and blind because I don't let Trump define MY reality?
Yet you are willfully uninformed as to why Trump has been indicted. You refuse to even READ the indictments, but think you KNOW more.
Hints: Documented and verifiable evidence and the rule of law.
Arrogant ignorance is the most dangerous ignorance.

Here's how a sane person can disagree with the person he voted for:

I agree Biden mishandled the Afghanistan withdrawal that TRUMP agreed to.

The undeniable FACT is no more American lives are being wasted over there.

Let me know when you can admit Trump can lie and be wrong. Or are you in a cult?

Les Carpenter said...

We sure won't miss your brand of sick comedy.

So please, pack up and take yourself, your fellow sheeple, and sockpuppets and find another WYD Stench Trench to pollute with your ignorance and miserable disposition.

Ciceroni Excogitatoris said...

Les Carpenter said..
We sure won't miss your brand of sick comedy.
So please, pack up and take yourself, your fellow sheeple, and sockpuppets and find another WYD Stench Trench to pollute with your ignorance and miserable disposition.


What do you mean be "WE" No one was addressing YOU.
And No One in their right Mind would !
And DON'T TELL ME to pack up and take yourself, or any other BULLSHIT that pours out of that STUPID, IGNORANT MOTH OF YOURS!
GET IT ASS-HOLE! YOU HALF-WITTED RETARD!

Les Carpenter said...

Hey sissyroni, love your obscurations and delusions. Did you get your cherished information from Russian State Disinformation or tRump News outlet? Perhaps the confused blowhards of the GOP?

Doesn't really matter because my sterling acumen isn't the least bit interested in your false fair tales.

Dean Robenson said...


I throughly believe that had Ronald Reagan been in office instead of George Bush , 9/11 would have never happened . Weakness invites aggression. And the progressive idealistic weakness has invited unspeakable horrors against the U.S. It was done once again by Barack Obama - by making heavy cuts to our U.S. military (sending a signal to enemies) and by sending billions in ransom money to Iran, and once again now by Joe Biden.

Dave Dubya said...

Dean,
Interesting evaluation. It's true Bush Jr. wasn't interested in the PDB reporting al-Qaeda's intention to strike in the US.

Ironically 9/11 would have never happened had not for Bush Sr. sending our military to bin-Laden's homeland to oust Saddam from Kuwait. Bin-Laden's twisted radical Islamic beliefs decided Jihad was called for by the foreign military being there.

Also ironically, it wasn't so much "weakness invites aggression", it was the projection of our forces that triggered him.

Whatever "signal" Obama sent to our enemies must have worked.

There were no successful foreign Jihadist attacks in the US in the eight years while he was president.

We DO remember a certain Republican candidate who HATED Obama, and attacked him with lies denying his American birthright, though.

Oh, and the money was Iran's assets we had frozen. RETURNING it was part of a multi-national agreement to halt Iran's nuclear weapons program.

Trump broke the deal, and Iran can do what it wants now. No more inspectors. No more agreement.

Thanks to Trump's tough talk but mental weakness, Iran got more powerful. Thanks to the Bushes being tough with the military, terrorism became more widespread and deadly. AND Iran got more powerful. Now Iran is sending weapons to Trump's pal Putin to slaughter more innocent Ukrainians.

Cause and effect.

Les Carpenter said...

Bring more of your hate at me. Get it ALL out a-hole.

I realize your your hate consumes your black heart and pea sizes brain.

I pity you deano beano.

Dave Dubya said...

In the unlikely event Dean is reading this far:

He complained about "billions in ransom money to Iran". The Americans who have been finally released are home. And

The story:

US officials have made clear that the funding, which is Iran’s, not from US taxpayer dollars, is not under the control of the Iranian government.

Brett McGurk, White House coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa, said Monday that “no funds are going to Iran at all.”

“These funds are paid to vetted third-party vendors for food, medicine, medical products and agricultural products to go into Iran over a period of years. If there is any diversion, we’ll know it and we’ll lock up these accounts,” he told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “The Lead.”


Administration officials have stressed each transaction using the funds will be monitored by the US Treasury Department.

“We are implementing this arrangement through the establishment of what we are calling the humanitarian channel in Qatar,” which is designed to protect against money laundering and misuse of the funds, a senior administration official said.

Kirby said last week that the money is going to be held by the Qatari National Bank and is available for withdrawal by request from the Iranian government.

“The Iranians can request withdrawals for it for humanitarian purposes, and the countries and it will be, and us – we will have oversight, sufficient oversight into the request itself, to validate the request and then to deliver funds appropriate to that request,” Kirby told reporters.

“The money will then go to qualified vendors to purchase and deliver the food, the medical supplies, into Iran. So, it will go directly to aid organizations or appropriate relevant organizations inside Iran so that the Iranian people can benefit from it.”

On Monday, Kirby stressed that the US can stop a transaction from taking place if necessary, and US officials have stressed that if they find misuse of the funds, they can freeze the accounts.

“If Iran tries to divert the funds or use them for anything other than the limited humanitarian purposes authorized, we’ll take action to lock up the funds,” the senior administration official said.

Trita Parsi, executive vice president of the Quincy Institute in Washington, DC, told CNN that the terms of the agreement are so strict on Iran that they are “humiliating.”

“The biggest thing this (US) administration fears is to be accused of being soft on Iran,” said Parsi. “In order to balance the fact that they made a deal to secure the release of Americans, they are imposing new sanctions and doing things that make them look really tough.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/politics/iran-money-explainer/index.html

Les Carpenter said...

Of course ole deano beano, if he actually reads your response to his inaccurate and ignorant comment will probably merely say it's a lie.

These people have proven over and over they are not interested in facts or truth. They have no interest in such boring stuff. They know what is up simply by beleving in what they want to THINK, which is derived from their fabulous fantasies. So, anything that runs contrary to their beliefs is without question a lie in their pinched and warped view of reality.

But thats okay. Because as they say, everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Mega, Maga Man said...

The First of many more to come of Biden’s impeachment inquiry hearing will be held on this coming Thursday, September 28th.
On that day the House Committee on Oversight
will hold an impeachment inquiry hearing. We will present evidence uncovered to date and hear from legal and financial experts about crimes the Bidens may have committed as they brought in millions at the expense of U.S. interests,
Besides the bank records, the Suspicious Activity Reports, the Wire Transfers, the Private Bank Transactions, the 20 LLCs, the Texts, the Emails, the Messages, the Photos of Joe with Hunter's Business Partners, the Voicemails to His Son, the Two Business Partners Saying Joe Is the "Brand," the "Big Guy”, and "the chairman," the two IRS Whistleblowers testimony, the Recorded Phone Calls Between Biden and Poroshenko, the Video of Joe Biden Bragging about Firing the Ukrainian Prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his Dad half his income,
.
Most probably the circumstantial evidence that htey have alone is going to be enough to have him Impeached. BUT, BUT Trump made a “Phone Call”!

Dean said...

First of all KIRBY IS FILL OF SHIT he alway was and he still is. He’s a lap dog for the Pentagon .


Kirby said last week that the money is going to be held by the Qatari National Bank and is available for withdrawal by request from the Iranian government.

“The Iranians can request withdrawals for it for humanitarian purposes, and the countries and it will be, and us – we will have oversight, sufficient oversight into the request itself, to validate the request and then to deliver funds appropriate to that request,” Kirby told reporters.
YOU SAY
“The money will then go to qualified vendors to purchase and deliver the food, the medical supplies, into Iran. So, it will go directly to aid organizations or appropriate relevant organizations inside Iran so that the Iranian people can benefit from it.”

THATS ALSO BULLSHIT, and you should know it!
The money will go DIRECTLY to advance their making Nuclear Bombs.and NOWY ELSE stop being so naive.
You know that!

Dave Dubya said...

Dean,
Your assertions are noted. Your evidence is lacking.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,
You nailed it. Besides simply howling "lie" without evidence, the other tactic is to IGNORE the facts that shut down their absurd narrative.

We note it was not "Obama's weakness" that resulted in al-Qaeda's terrorist attacks, but their response to the Bush Cartel's WARS.

His entire line of BS was exposed, so he needs to transfer his outrage to Biden bringing home the Americans held in Iran. He REALLY doesn't GIVE A DAMN about his fellow Americans, unless they are Trump and his cult.

Say, do you think Dean remembers Reagan's arms for hostages deal?

Les Carpenter said...

Questionable at best Dave. I'm not sure deano beano knows what day it is.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Mega, Maga Man said...
The First of many more to come of Biden’s impeachment inquiry hearing will be held on this coming Thursday, September 28th."


LOL! That hearing was a complete disaster! Where's Mega Maga Man now? LOL!

Dave Dubya said...


I'm guessing my request for "good faith discussion. No ad hominem or hateful bickering" was just asking too much of them.