Thursday, March 2, 2017

What's That Smell?

On behalf of the American people, I'd just like to say this.

Thanks a lot, Vlad.

First came Dear Leader’s open invitation to Russia to hack Hillary and side with him in the election. That began with the famous words, "Russia, if you're listening..."

Apparently they were.

We recall Trump had praised Putin for being a "better leader" than President Obama. I guess killing critics is a sign of good leadership to our Dear Leader. 

That’s comforting.

Then Trumpist Paul Manifort had his ties to Russia that included working for the pro-Russian former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych.

Next General Mike “Kremlin Boy” Flynn, Trump’s appointee for national security adviser, had to resign over his dirty dealings with Russia.

Is something is starting to smell here?

We recall Flynn tweeted the viscous far Right fake news about a pizza place serving as a Hillary “sex crime” location.

Edgar Maddison Welch, from Salisbury, North Carolina, entered the Comet Ping Pong restaurant with what police described as an assault rifle. There were conflicting reports of gunshots.

The restaurant had been the subject of death threats from radical Christian terrorists for Trump.

Ooops. Dear Leader has declared only Muslims can be terrorists.  Never mind.

And thank you for your "service", Flynn. You're a real hero. Have a slice of pizza. You earned it.

Then comes our top law enforcement officer Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions meeting with a known Russian spy in September, while KNOWING Russian interference in our election was being investigated.

Now we learn Sessions lied under oath to a Senate committee saying, “I didn't have — did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it”.

Something definitely smells now.

What next? Good question.

Better add this bit about Donald Trump Jr. meeting with a pro-Russia group.

Three weeks before Election Day, Donald Trump Jr. left the campaign trail and the country to speak at a private dinner in Paris organized by an obscure pro-Russia group that promotes Kremlin foreign policy initiatives and has since nominated Russian President Vladimir Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize.

A key organizer of the event later told reporters she flew to Moscow to brief a senior Russian official about the session.

The White House referred question about the president’s son to the Trump Organization. A spokeswoman for the Trump business did not respond to questions from ABC News about why Donald Trump Jr. flew to France for the session during a critical phase of the presidential campaign, who arranged for him to attend, whether he was paid, what was discussed or if anyone vetted the group before he went.

The group sponsoring the session, the Center of Political and Foreign Affairs (CPFA), was founded by a wealthy French businessman and his partner, who are reported to have made major investments in Russia.

They are openly linked with the Russians,” said Renaud Girard, a French opinion writer who served as the moderator of the session Trump attended. “They don’t hide it at all.”


And finally, or worse yet, not finally, there’s this news:

Michael T. Flynn, then Donald J. Trump’s incoming national security adviser, had a previously undisclosed meeting with the Russian ambassador in December to “establish a line of communication” between the new administration and the Russian government, the White House said on Thursday.


Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and now a senior adviser, also participated in the meeting at Trump Tower with Mr. Flynn and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.

I knew I smelled cooked beets!

Wake up and smell the borscht, Komrads.

***UPDATE***

(Just a reminder: The platform written at the GOP convention in Cleveland eliminated references to arming Ukraine in its fight with Russia.)

Hmm.

Exclusive: Two other Trump advisers also spoke with Russian envoy during GOP convention

Attorney General Jeff Sessions is not the only member of President Trump’s campaign who spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a diplomacy conference connected to the Republican National Convention in July. At least two more members of the Trump campaign’s national security officials also spoke with Kislyak at the event, and several more Trump national security advisers were in attendance.

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Trump’s son-in-law also met with the Russian spy.

Kushner and Flynn Met With Russian Envoy in December, White House Says

WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn, then Donald J. Trump’s incoming national security adviser, had a previously undisclosed meeting with the Russian ambassador in December to “establish a line of communication” between the new administration and the Russian government, the White House said on Thursday.

Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and now a senior adviser, also participated in the meeting at Trump Tower with Mr. Flynn and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.

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Just pass me the vodka.


62 comments:

Darrell Michaels said...

Trump was right to fire Flynn. He did lie.

Sessions is another story. According to Sessions' spokeswoman,

“He was asked during the hearing about communications between Russia and the Trump campaign — not about meetings he took as a senator and a member of the Armed Services Committee,” Flores said. She added that Sessions last year had more than 25 conversations with foreign ambassadors as a senior member of the Armed Services Committee, including the British, Korean, Japanese, Polish, Indian, Chinese, Canadian, Australian and German ambassadors, in addition to Kislyak."

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/02/democrats-demand-sessions-resignation-after-russian-communications-surface/

I know that he is an "evil Trumpist" though, so the hell with evidence, right? Lynch him!

"radical Christian terrorists"???

You crack me up, Dave. Let me be the first to vehemently and unequivocally state that those people that make terrorist threats or partake in such acts are NOT Christians, regardless of what they claim. They do not speak for me or my faith whatsoever! (Now if only more moderate Muslims would make similar statements regarding their faith and terrorists using it for evil purposes!)

And then there is Donald Trump Jr. A "French opinion writer" stated that the FRENCH BUSINESS GROUP meeting that Trump Jr. attended has business dealings with the Russians! I bet if they were to ask this French opinion writer's cousin's hairdresser, she would say that they also have strong business investments in Iran too!

The fact that Donald Trump himself on national TV in front of millions of Americans stated, "Russia, if you are listening..." and you take that as anything but satirical humor, shows the desperation of your position to find ANYTHING you can to delegitimize and remove Trump. If you truly think that Russia could sway an American election, don't you think they would have removed that ass Obama back in 2012? :)

I loathe the fact that I even feel it necessary to defend the known facts and thus end up defending the jerk Trump by default.

Here is the bottom line though. If it is ever proven that Trump or any of his appointees had any illegal contact with the Russians, then I will call for their resignation too.

I am not really sure why all of you good folks on the left are all up tight anyway. I thought you Lefties adored the USSR of old! I seem to recall Lefties acting like groupies over Gorbachev while claiming Reagan was the devil incarnate. :)

Majormajor said...

"my mind changes when the facts tell me I'm in error"
DAVE DUBYA, based on the record he's the first perfect human since Christ. ;-)

Forget it TP,
liberals will NEVER admit to being wrong, all the while demanding you meet them in the middle.

Dave wants to be thought of as a reasonable liberal because he criticizes the Demorats. What he criticizes is the Demorats aren't liberal enough, how's that for moderation?

Do you really think a person who supports Michael Moore's statement about the Navy Seal's widow is a normal person?

Darrell Michaels said...

Michael Moore's comments were disgusting leftist propaganda. He should try to find the decency somewhere in his dark soul to be ashamed. I know we are supposed to love our enemy, but people like him are sure a challenge to try and live up to that standard.

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck, you lie.

"What he criticizes is the Demorats aren't liberal enough, how's that for moderation?"

You ignored my example of Obama's unconstitutional drone assassinations of Americans without trial.

IF you won't read what I write, I have no reason to let you lie about me.

You are on notice, sport.

Dave Dubya said...

TP,
You're right. Michael Moore is disgusting for telling the facts, while Trump is the noble one who used a grieving widow as a prop, and blamed her loss and suffering on Obama and "the generals".

Amazing.

Darrell Michaels said...

So you are doubling down on Michael Moore's "prop" crap?

You, sir, are so politically jaded that any sense of objectivity is obviously gone if that is your conclusion regarding this grieving widow. But then, I guess I already knew that...

How very sad.

Dave Dubya said...

TP,

So you're doubling down on ignoring the fact Trump despicably used a grieving widow as a prop, and blamed her loss and suffering on Obama and "the generals".

That's quite a lesson on "personal responsibility, Trump/Republican style". Then attack the critic, of course.

Amazing.

Now about your "known facts" that Sessions is so innocent, and we must trust his word.

What's the first thing a guilty politician says when caught in a lie?

"I don't recall".

When asked Thursday about his Sept. 8 meeting with the Russian ambassador, Sessions said the two talked about “normal things,” noting terrorism and Ukraine came up in conversation.

“I don’t recall any specific political discussion,” Sessions said.

"I don't recall". Is that what you base your "known facts" on?

You're defending a liar using the oldest lie in politics.

Feel free to double down on that again.

And now more news:

The platform written at the GOP convention in Cleveland eliminated references to arming Ukraine in its fight with Russia.

Hmm.

Exclusive: Two other Trump advisers also spoke with Russian envoy during GOP convention

Attorney General Jeff Sessions is not the only member of President Trump’s campaign who spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a diplomacy conference connected to the Republican National Convention in July. At least two more members of the Trump campaign’s national security officials also spoke with Kislyak at the event, and several more Trump national security advisers were in attendance.
=
Trump’s son-in-law also met with the Russian spy.

Kushner and Flynn Met With Russian Envoy in December, White House Says


WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn, then Donald J. Trump’s incoming national security adviser, had a previously undisclosed meeting with the Russian ambassador in December to “establish a line of communication” between the new administration and the Russian government, the White House said on Thursday.

Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and now a senior adviser, also participated in the meeting at Trump Tower with Mr. Flynn and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador.


Nothing to see here folks. This is normal.

Majormajor said...

Dave,

You made my point, you only criticize Obama and demorats because they are NOT liberal enough. That does not make you a reasonable liberal.
"What he criticizes is the Demorats aren't liberal enough." is what I said and the examples you offered only proved my claim.

Have you ever slammed Obama or the Demorats for being TOO liberal? I once asked you if there was any liberal policy you disagreed with, to date you have not named one. Before you delete this, just name one.

Your continued support for the useless mass of human cells from Michigan, the man whale himself, Michael Moore, only cements the fact that you are an unrepentant extreme liberal.

It is because I do read what you write that I say this.

Majormajor said...

Dave,

Since I've already pissed you off, I see no reason to stop now.

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Dave Dubya said...


You made my point,

The ignorance is clear.

useless mass of human cells

The hate is abundantly clear.

Dave Dubya said...

For the record Chuck believes unconstitutional Drone assassinations of citizens without trial is "not liberal".

That's right. Is it conservative? Another reason the Right embraces it. Or a corporatist moderate perhaps?

Thanks for proving my point, Chuck.

Darrell Michaels said...

"So why won't you let Muslims say the same?"

Why indeed! I have been asking for Muslims to denounce the terrorism that extremists of their faith have executed for DECADES. To date, very few moderate Muslims have had the courage to denounce the evil bastards that kill and terrorize in the name of Islam. Why do you assume that I won't "let them" say the same? I have begged them to do so!

"Trump openly called on Russia to ILLEGALLY hack Hillary. No person with a trace of human decency says crap like he does."

First, deep inside you are mad because of all of the despicable things said and done by Hillary's campaign that came to light, including the derailing of Bernie Sanders.

Second, if Trump was going to ask in earnest for Russia to hack Hillary, he would have done so in private with plausible deniability; not as a smart ass throw-away comment in front of millions of people during a campaign. Surely you cannot be that obtuse in defending your precious Hillary and progressivism, Dave.

Last, I find it interesting by what you are offended as constituting a lack of "human decency". Michael Moore's disgusting comments about Ryan Owen's widow are endorsed by you but Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary in a satirical comment is beyond the pale to you. You have some serious issues if that is your definition of human decency, my friend.

"What's the first thing a guilty politician says when caught in a lie? 'I don't recall'."

Indeed! I hear that is the title of Hillary's forthcoming memoir.

I can see the fruitlessness of this already.

I think a special counsel should be installed to investigate any illegal actions involving the Trump campaign and the Russians. If EVIDENCE is found of wrong-doing, the person(s) involved should be fired and prosecuted accordingly. This includes Trump, if guilty. There. Is that adequate for you, or should we demand that they be racked and quartered too?

If only Dave would EVER sincerely say the same when the Left does such illegal things. He doesn't like Hillary supposedly, but her slush fund (...errr I meant the Clinton Foundation) accepting "donations" from businesses and foreign entities with business before the government and State Department are nothing to be upset about. There is FAR more evidence of that wrong doing than there ever was for Bush "lying" to get us into a war with Iraq, but being a liberal means never having to look at all of the facts or ever ever ever admitting that you are wrong.

I am sure this will be the first of many invented scandals the loving and tolerant Left will devise in order to bring down a government they despise. After all, conservativism and Republicans are all Satan's spawn in their religious belief of big government liberalism. And they ends always justify the means, doesn't it, Dave?

Majormajor said...

Dave,

Still waiting for you to criticize JUST one liberal policy, JUST one liberal position, to disavow JUST one liberal (maybe Keith Ellison or Michael Moore?)

That you haven't fly's in the face of your claim to be a "reasonable liberal".

"unconstitutional Drone assassinations of citizens without trial"

So in war time we should only capture the enemy, site them their rights, and then send them to trial? It was stupid when Clinton treated those who would kill us this way and it's stupid today.
How about showing us where in the Constitution it is stated that our enemy's on foreign soil have the the rights of OUR Constitution. Show us where the Constitution was violated.
If, as you claim, it was unconstitutional, why didn't liberals call for the impeachment of Obama? After all he was a "corporatist moderate"! That you either can not see or refuse to acknowledge that you are only critical of non liberals stands is a true statement of fact.

As for MY comments on M. Moore, I am sorry you can't tell the difference between stating the truth ie: "useless mass of human cells" and saying I hate him.









Majormajor said...

Well Mr. Paine,

It's clear to me, and I guess you as well, that Dave can't face it when his claims of white racism turn out to be fake news.

I wonder if he face the news about the bomb threats being called into JCC across the country. Here's the latest.

"On Friday, authorities arrested a St. Louis man suspected of making bomb threats to multiple Jewish Community Centers across the country. The disturbing story of a wave of threats against JCCs gained national prominence, resulting in widespread speculation about who exactly the phone terrorist could be. One narrative promoted by various left-wing publications was that the source of the threats almost certainly came from the ranks of the left's favorite villains, Donald Trump supporters. Well, it turns out that the suspect, Juan Thompson, is anything but a Trump fan. In fact, one of the left-wing outlets that chided Trump for refusing to "accept that his allies are targeting Jews" was Thompson's former employer."

Gasp, Mr. Thompson is not white!!

He Is A Disgraced Former Left-Wing Journalist

He Fabricated An Interview With Racist Murderer Dylann Roof's "Cousin"

He Blamed Racism For His Firing

He Was Really Not Happy About His Jewish Girlfriend Breaking Up With Him

He Voted For Bernie (And Hated Trump)

I'm sure that this will have the same impact on Dave as my other links showing fake racism. In other words, he will ignore this and continue down his narrow liberal narrative. Maybe if we knew what Obama and Russian ambassador talked about the 22 times they met in the White House we would have a better understanding of Russian activity's in the 2016 election. Maybe if we had an official transcript of the runway conversation between Bill Clinton and L. Lynch we would better understand what HRC's emails really contained.

I also hope one day to win the lottery, odds that will happen before Dave becomes honest with himself.

Dave Dubya said...

TP,

Keep defending and apologizing for Trump. That should work out fine. Yes, Hillary was the liar, not Dear Leader.

You may need to brush up on your "known facts".

very few moderate Muslims have had the courage to denounce the evil bastards that kill and terrorize in the name of Islam.

Actually many have, but you don't notice, or care.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-clerics-condemn-terrorism_us_566adfa1e4b009377b249dea

How 70,000 Muslim Clerics Are Standing Up To Terrorism
Religious leaders are emphasizing that they don’t consider terrorists to be true Muslims.

Want more? I can't help noticing a pattern of me having to inform you of the facts. Just ask, as you seem to find it difficult to separate "known facts" from your bias, and trust in politicians saying, "I don't recall".

You just keep on with your "Islamic terrorists" and I will use "Christian terrorists" for a dose of your own medicine. Do you even understand my point?

"Satirical comment" again, huh? I got some Trump ties, wine and water to sell you too. And Sessions LIED!!!

The Trumpist denied any and all contact with Russians until it came to light.

You are a true believer, old buddy. You really are.

but her slush fund (...errr I meant the Clinton Foundation)

Oooh, she's the Devil alright. Trump actually called her that in a debate. He is truly slime, and you trust and believe him.

I dare your to compare the Clinton Foundation to the Trump Foundation. See who took personal advantage of it. I'll wait. Or you'll ignore it.

Demonize her some more, and defend Trump while you're at it.

So now you want to defend Trump's human decency? Good luck with that.

You haven't even given a specific reason for your hatred for Michael Moore. The fact is Trump USED that widow for his address. Yes he used her for blatant emotional capital. AND he passed blame for her loss to Obama and the generals.

But Michael Moore is the real bad guy. Got it.

I give you credit on seeing a need for an investigation. At least you appear to take the intelligence community with a modicum of respect.

claims of white racism turn out to be fake news

So Chuck thinks there's no such thing as white racism. How Klan-servative of him.

Note how he cannot address the topic of the post. Why do you suppose that is?

While you have authoritarian tendencies, moderated by some attempt at reason and limited openness to facts, Chuck is the textbook example of a far Right reality denying authoritarian personality.


Darrell Michaels said...

Dave, I thank you for the two year old link showing how Muslims in India are denouncing terrorists using their faith. It is an excellent start. Do you have any links showing this occurring in America too, sir?

Next, in true Leftist fashion, I notice how many of my progressive friends seem to be projecting with their Russian fascination. Indeed, as Majormajor stated, the Russian ambassador visited the White House 22 times during Obama's reign. Three of those times were during the election year to coronate Obama's chosen hand-maiden as a replacement to continue his agenda. Do you suppose that Obama was discussing electoral campaign politics with the Russian ambassador? I mean, there is as much evidence for that as there is for Sessions' discussion with him. Further, there is actually more evidence if you take into account Obama's open microphone snafu in 2012 when he was caught telling Medvedev to pass on to Putin that he would have "more flexibility to negotiate" on issues like missile defense after the 2012 election.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/02/russian-ambassador-sergey-kislyak-appeared-as-obama-white-house-visitor-at-least-22-times/

Add to that the fact that one of Hillary's Clinton Foundation "donors" got a favorable government outcome that shifted ownership of a large amount of American uranium to a Russian company, and I think maybe the Justice Department SHOULD open an investigation... on the DEMOCRATS!

The bottom line is that if actual EVIDENCE comes forth showing illegal collusion with Trump, his campaign, and the Russians, then of course I will condemn it. Until then, please just shut up about this Russian scheme. It is nothing but a ploy by whiny-ass liberals that are mad that their sure thing with Hillary did not come to fruition. Again, if there is actually a Russian connection, it is between the Democrats and them according to the existing evidence.

"So now you want to defend Trump's human decency?"

Oh, my Lord! I have not defended Trump's decency, of all the silly things. If anything I have chastised him on your OWN BLOG for his lack of decency. That said, his "calling for the Russians to hack Hillary" was not a decency faux pas. It was a joke, just like your argument that it was sincere is a giant joke, sir.

Discounting and belittling the grief of the wife honored with her husband for his ultimate sacrifice, THAT is disgusting and lacking in human decency. If you support that, then you and Michael Moore are deserving of each other on that issue. And I am sorely disappointed accordingly.

"While you have authoritarian tendencies, moderated by some attempt at reason and limited openness to facts..."

Yeah, I know how that works. I don't follow a party line, so when I agree with Dave, I show "openness to facts". Of course, when I don't I am a conservative troglodyte true Trumpist believer. It is amazing the projection you show and the words you put in others mouths while actually ignoring the words that ARE being said by them.

I think I will go back to talking with my wall. I am more likely to get reason from it, my friend.

Dave Dubya said...

TP,
Discounting and belittling the grief of the wife honored

This is a rather low false accusation. I’m talking about Trump’s manipulation of her grief. You cannot see that, apparently. And why, why, why do you ignore, or is it discounting and belittling, Trump’s SLIMY passing of blame for the poor woman’s loss??? THAT lack of human decency is what I'm pointing at in this case. And damn right, even joking about asking for foreign hacking of an opponent in our presidential election shows NO HUMAN DECENCY!

Meanwhile the grieving father goes unmentioned, for questioning Dear Leader. I wonder what he thinks of Trump exploiting his family's suffering. Would you care for his take?

More on Muslims is a fair request:

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We reject bigotry, oppression and violence against all people based on any prejudice, including ethnicity, gender, language, belief, religion, sexual orientation and gender expression.

We are for secular governance, democracy and liberty.

Every individual has the right to publicly express criticism of Islam. Ideas do not have rights. Human beings have rights.

We stand for peace, human rights and secular governance. Please stand with us!

Preamble

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We reject interpretations of Islam that call for any violence, social injustice and politicized Islam. Facing the threat of terrorism, intolerance, and social injustice in the name of Islam, we have reflected on how we can transform our communities based on three principles: peace, human rights and secular governance. We are announcing today the formation of an international initiative: the Muslim Reform Movement.

We have courageous reformers from around the world who will outline our Declaration for Muslim Reform, a living document that we will continue to enhance as our journey continues. We invite our fellow Muslims and neighbors to join us.

================
And for many more examples :

Over 700 PAGES of cases where Muslims have condemned wrongdoings done falsely in the name of Islam.

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

What's that smell?

The smell of rotting Russian Red Herring from the Progressives who still are crying in their beer about Nov 8.

Now we hear Barry as President was wire tapping Trump Towers. Both Richard Nixon and Saul Alinsky are smiling in their graves.

Dave Dubya said...

Anything you say Komrad Arch. ;-)

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

Notice how the Clinton Foundation has begun to unravel like a cheap suit? Why give to Bonnie and Clyde Clinton if there's no possibility for a payoff, amirite?

Thank Allah that the corrupt lying incompetent HRC, who allowed Russia to buy US uranium mines, is not in the White House with Bill performing cigar experiments on interns. amirite?

Dave Dubya said...

Archie's ZOMBIE LIES are debunked at Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

Sec. of State Hillary Clinton's approval of a deal to transfer control of 20% of U.S. uranium deposits to a Russian company was a quid pro quo exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation.

FALSE.

The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve
PLUS
The timing of most of the donations does not match


Thanks for FAKE NEWS Arch, but no more, please. Kindly stop trolling with off-topic lies.

LOL!!

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

Dave, Isn't great we don't have to see HRC in her Chairman Mao pant suits anymore?

Michael Stivic over at Tom Degan's blog makes a good point:
"Does anybody have any specific information on this blog to share about the Trump/Russian connection or are we all still suffering from Post Trumpatic Stress Disorder from Nov 8th?"

Dave, Where's The Beef with the Trump/Russian connection? Just saying Trump colluded with the Russians to defeat HRC without any evidence is FAKE NEWS Dave! amirite?

Dave Dubya said...

Arch,
Congrats, you can ask a relevant question.

The question is essentially, what does, or more accurately, what doesn't, Trump want to share about the Trump/Russian connection.

He and Jr. talked about doing business in Russia. Of course he won't release his tax records. Now THAT also smells funny in any world. Except in Bizarro Trump World, that is.

First Dear Leader invites Russia to hack Hillary. Then Trumpists talked to the Russians. Then they got caught talking with the Russians. Then they lied about talking to the Russians. None of this is fake news. The fake news is Trump was just kidding with Russia. Except for his praising Putin, of course.

Now the question that needs answering is this:

WHY did they LIE about talking to the Russians?

Now your question.

Where's The Beef?

The US intelligence agencies tell us Russia hacked Democrats and interfered in our election to help Trump win.

There. It's good to be clear on this.

Thank you, Arch.

Oh, and yes, I don't need to see any more of Hillary. Even in Trump's Chinese suits.

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

"First Dear Leader invites Russia to hack Hillary. Then Trumpists talked to the Russians. Then they got caught talking with the Russians. Then they lied about talking to the Russians. None of this is fake news. The fake news is Trump was just kidding with Russia. Except for his praising Putin, of course. "

LOL on your analysis and pretzel logic about the Russian/Trump connection. Your side lost and can't accept it. Hillary was an out of touch candidate who was clueless about what the people in the fly over states were thinking. Excuses are like arseholes, everybody has one. amirite?

After 8 years of Obama, the Democrats are at their lowest level at the State and Federal level in 100 years. amirite?


"The fake news is Trump was just kidding with Russia."

LOL on that one Dave, WHERE'S THE BEEF? Somebody who knows somebody who heard from an anonymous source?

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck,
Back to being irrational and distracting to Hillary again? Tough job, but somebody's got to serve their Dear Leader.

Excuses?

Like Dear Leader shirking responsibility, passing the buck, saying the "generals lost Ryan"?

“This was a mission that was started before I got here,” Trump said. “This was something that was, uh, you know, they wanted to do. They came to see me, they explained what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very respected. My generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan.”

Now THAT's leading from behind, amirite?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave Dubya: "What's that Smell?"

It's the rotten stench to the start of one of the most - if not ultimate - odorous and corrupt beginnings to a new administration in this nation's history.

I suppose what works so well in the private sector doesn't stay hidden under the sanitizing light of scrutiny that our Founder's knew must be included in our Constitution: "Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...."

Dave, I see that the "Four Horses' Asses of the Apocalypse" made appearances during my absence. ;-)

Mr. Paine, I spent most of my time within the Sonoran Desert.

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

What's The Smell?

Rotting Russian Red Herring! amirite?

Dave Dubya said...

JG,
We have without question the most dangerous, dishonest, unqualified, uninformed, bigoted, and authoritarian presidency in our history. Trump even wants to use the military to enforce laws in his Republican Police State. We either stop them, or it's all over.

Trump is deflecting from his corruption and collusion with Russian cronies by whining that Obama tapped his phone. The cult indoctrination by the white nationalists at Breitbart is now dictating that congress investigate that evil conspiracy theory.

They are evil. Period.

Trump is a tyrant. Period.

Reports of a Hitleresque screaming tirade over Sessions recusing himself indicate much more of this lunacy will follow.

They are shutting down climate research, opening the floodgates for polluters, raping funds for cleaning Great Lakes water, and shutting down the EPA's water quality monitoring mechanisms that would prevent another Flint. They will de-regulate Wall Street for another open season for swindlers. This pro-corporate, anti-public mentality infects the entire Administration and Republican Party. This is Republicanism gone wild. It will take us down into even deeper darkness.

We are now "Flint Nation".

All thanks to Trump voters. The ignorant deluded fools' blind hate for Democrats has given the world even more reasons to hate and distrust America. Anyone who still believes and supports the Trump Regime should have THEIR patriotism, and sanity, questioned. They have truly become a cult of hate, incapable of common human decency.

And most importantly, this is NOT the will of the majority of Americans.

Resist and persist.

Majormajor said...

Welcome back JG!! Hope your trip was a worthwhile one.

Dave,

Are you defending the Demorat Party?

"Any remaining doubts that “we the people” may have had about where the Democrat’s loyalties lay were put to rest during President Trump’s recent “State of the Union” address. When he promoted jobs for the jobless the Democrats sat on their hands. When he advocated giving aid to victims of crime the Democrats booed. And when President Trump honored the widow of a fallen American SEAL the Democrats sat stone-faced and silent."

Jim ONeill

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

Major said:
"Dave,

Are you defending the Demorat Party?"

LOL on that one Major. Dave is defending what is left of the party after Obama's 8-year police state reign that has left them at 100 year lows. Obama drove the Democrat Party Clown Car right through the last gate at the Grand Canyon and over the cliff! amirite?

We all were preparing for "Madame President" and some of us have become really sore losers since Nov 8. Remember when things looked so rosy for Hillary and she said Donald would be un-American if he didn't accept when she won on Nov 8? LOL on how un-American the progressives have behaved since Nov 8.

The Democrat Party is in the wilderness as desolate as the Sonoran Desert.

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

Dave, You at the Mosque?

Dave Dubya said...

Jim O'Neill is a liar.

Lies Lies are a favorite tool of evil. Yes, including the lies from an extremist former SEAL, "coincidentally" awarded Russian jump wings. Interesting....

Snopes says:

But examination of multiple video and photographic sources (including the full video of President Trump’s speech, embedded below) documents that the claim “DEMOCRATS Refuse to Stand for Gold Star Widow” was undeniably false.

Major Arch,

Are you defending lies?

I will accept your apology if not.

You have a choice. Do the decent thing and apologize. (We know how likely that is.)

Or if you dump lies without apology, expect to be deleted.

Basic human decency is not a con-servative value, so we know where this will go.




Dave Dubya said...

From Bruce Bartlett, Former aide to Ron Paul, Jack Kemp, Ronald Reagan & George HW Bush who now thinks the GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs.

“Take Nixon in the deepest days of his Watergate paranoia, subtract 50 IQ points, add Twitter, and you have Trump today.”

“What happens when you rely on lying right-wing media for accurate information.”

“One of the many things I hate about Trump is being forced to follow right-wing shit sites like Breitbart to know what he is thinking.”

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

"Major Arch"

Dave, You know Major and I ALWAYS post with different IP address.

SHAME ON YOU for pretending we are the same.

Don't apologize for I understand Alinsky tactics.

Dave Dubya said...

You know Major and I ALWAYS post with different IP address.

Really? Prove it. If you do that I can show when you both have responded to the same name.

But hey, what difference does it make? One cultist sounds the same as another. Same lies, same hate, same ignorance. Same Trumpism.

Dave Dubya said...

Arch and Major,

Do you "two" talk about me over coffee at the Colony Diner?

Dave Dubya said...

Another Trumpist ”get out of our country” shooting

A Sikh man was shot and wounded in Washington state by an attacker who approached him in his driveway and told him to leave the country, police and media reported on Saturday.

The shooting, on Friday night in the city of Kent about 15 miles (24 km) south of Seattle, followed a number of other attacks on Sikhs in the United States over a period of more than a decade.
Hate crime-tracking groups say assailants have occasionally mistaken Sikhs for Muslims, who have also been victimized in religiously motivated crimes.

The Sikh man was working on his car in the driveway of his home when he was shot in the arm, according to Seattle television station KIRO 7, which spoke to a woman who knows the victim and saw him after he was struck by the bullet.

"Some comments were made to the effect of 'get out of our country, go back to where you're from,' and our victim was then shot," Kent Police Chief Ken Thomas said at a news conference.
"To think that this could happen in our community was very surprising and extremely disappointing," Thomas said.

Sikh community members stood behind Thomas as he described the shooting. Police believe the suspect, who is at large, is a man, media reported.


Trumpists are such hate-filled bigots they don’t know, or care, that non-Muslims wear turbans.

Just another white racist shooter in Trumpistan.

Dave Dubya said...

"Very sick."

Isn't it cute when a cultist imitates his Dear Leader?

And now for Final Jeopardy!

Answer:
"you are making a fool of yourself....you have no evidence, you have no proof,"

Question:
What will the FBI tell Trump when they address his stupid, racist and paranoid lie about Obama tapping his phone?

And we have the winner!

Jeopardy, brought to you by an official hate-filled Trumpist lie. (No apology offered. Not responsible for any national embarrassment uttered by "fake president" Don the Con. Liar will be filtered for content and deleted until sincere apology is offered.)

The LIE:

And when President Trump honored the widow of a fallen American SEAL the Democrats sat stone-faced and silent.

That would be kind of demonizing lie cult con-servatives use against liberals and democrats all the time. The Trumpists are evil, make no mistake. Breitbart is Kommisar Bannon's Klan-friendly lie factory, and has Dear Leader regurgitating fascist lies, dictating government actions and response. This is treasonous abuse of power and tax payer money.

Our intelligence and law enforcement agencies have to decide between following the Constitution or Dear Leader. We are forced to depend on them and sane Republicans to do the right thing.

While we wait, darkness is descending.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave Dubya: "While we wait, darkness is descending."

I'm afraid you are right. I've never seen any administration start out in such disarray; in such shambles. Neither have you...or Mr. Paine. (I will not even count Chuck. If Hannibal Lecter were elected, he'd dismiss his cannibalism to insist he's on a high-protein diet for weight loss.)

The runaway train, with a crazy man at the controls, is speeding up and heading toward the washed-out bridge. And although there are more and more passengers realizing something's dreadfully wrong, half are oblivious to the truth and content with the thought that they're on their way to Disney World.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Chuck "Majormajor" Morre: "Dave, you assume the shooter was a Trump supporter, you are making a fool of yourself....you have no evidence, you have no proof, you just wish it to be so."

It's a pretty safe bet he was, isn't it Chuck? Be realistic. (Oh, I'm sorry, that's something you're definitely incapable of being -- much less understanding. I forgot that you live in a world of "con-sense" and myth.)

As I maintained months ago on Tom's blog, and will repeat again for you. The American people were duped into electing either nuclear war or civil war for their future. You chose civil war. I sincerely hope you and your family have a safe place to ride it out, because it "ain't" going to be pretty.

Dave Dubya said...

JG,
Their outrage over my calling these racist shooters Trump supporters dissipates when I challenge them to a bet. I wonder why that is? I offered the same deal to TP and Chuck. If the shooter was not a Trump supporter I will donate to the NRA. If he was, they would donate to the ACLU. Let's make that Planned Parenthood, just to see where their con-fidence lies.

Since Major Liar refuses to apologize for, or even acknowledge, his lie, further lies will be deleted. He was fairly warned of course, but the word "fair" doesn't exist in Con World.

And I wouldn't exclude Trump from his "nuclear option". Trump was the worst possible person for the job.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave Dubya: "And I wouldn't exclude Trump from his 'nuclear option'. Trump was the worst possible person for the job."

Oh, I haven't. I believe I wrote on a previous comment (on one of your previous posts) that the distinct possibility of nuclear war, in addition to civil war, shouldn't be precluded. This administration has all the tools necessary to take us down either of these treacherous paths. The loose cannon that Trump has shown himself to be, could very well bring about such "multitasking".


"Trump was the worst possible person for the job."

Neither were what we needed at this time, but outside and big money calls the shots in this era of high corruption. Either way we were destined for collapse and destruction. We're all pawns in an extremely high stakes game.

Dave Dubya said...

I have my new t-shirt. "Don't blame me, I voted for Bernie".

Obviously too many Americans would rather not make the effort to be informed. Now we all will pay for the fleecing of America by Trump and his cronies.

Darrell Michaels said...

I should get a T-shirt too: "Don't blame me; I voted for the Constitution and Darrel Castle"

Of course that doesn't stop some folks from denigrating my "conservative values" or assuming I am still a fascist, xenophobe, racist Trumpist that condones his sometimes foolish and crass behaviors.

So how was the desert, JG? I imagine it was nice to get away from all of this "civilization" for awhile. I think I am in great need of following suit, sir. The "love and tolerance" in today's enlightened society seems to be getting a little much for me.

Sincerely though, I hope your trip was everything you were expecting and then some.

Dave Dubya said...

TP,
Almost any name other than Trump would work on a shirt. My next one will say "Make America Sane Again", but I know the deck has been stacked against that quaint notion.

Hello to huge tax cuts for the rich. Hello to brutal crackdowns by "off the shackles" law enforcement. Hello to more war on drugs. Hello to more vote suppression. Hello to more demonization of dissent. Hello to more hate crimes. Hello to the Fourth Reich. Hello to free speech being called "economic terrorism".

Bye bye, sanity. Bye bye, Constitution. Bye bye, clean water. Bye bye, clean air. Bye bye, regulations for Wall Street. Bye bye, accountability. Bye bye, common decency and rules for the White House. And buy, buy Ivanka's stuff. IOKIYAR after all, right Kellyanne? Of course it is.

sometimes foolish and crass behaviors Not saying that you condone it, but wouldn't "frequent" or "daily" be more accurate? Pick a day, any day. I mean really. He is dangerous and unfit for office.

But what do I know? I'm just some loony liberal...although sane conservatives and the very few honorable Republicans agree. Somebody damn well listen to the voices of reason in the wilderness, or our country is indeed lost.

And I know my Bernie shirt tells many con-servatives I'm a "Muslim loving, Terrorist appeasing, America hating, Commie taker". This is the hate and stupidity that will doom us.

Just ask Chuck, when he's not busy passing his viral lies. He and many con-servatives want to say democrats and liberals failed to respect a war widow, lied about dems not standing for her, all the while it was really disrespect for the man exploiting her loss and shirking accountability for it.

But con-servative Trumpists don't do nuance. It's not black and white enough. They just make up accusations and blame the Black guy again.

It's what they do. It's who they are. They are indeed deplorable, by every standard of human decency.

"Russia, if you're listening..."






Dave Dubya said...

TP,
Chuck just lied to you at your blog.

As dear leader Dave has promised to remove my future posts until I accept a bet from him.

Once more:

Since Major Liar refuses to apologize for, or even acknowledge, his lie, further lies will be deleted. He was fairly warned of course, but the word "fair" as well as human decency, do not exist in Con World.

Dave Dubya said...

The unrepentant, and VERY un-Christian, liar has been butting in again. Sinners cannot be forgiven while denying their sins.

He's like a spoiled child whining when his toys are taken after being a brat. (Reminds me of Dear Leader. He really threw a tantrum over Sessions recusal, I hear.)

All he has to do is be a man and admit he spread a lie about democrats, and the latest lie about my conditions for admitting his comments. Or he can go to Hell. Jesus and I don't approve of liars. We love them, but hate their sins.

That's how it works doesn't it?

He either repents, or Hell awaits. It will likely be a cold snowy day there before Chuck admits to his lies.

But that's what con-servatism is.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave Dubya: "All he has to do is be a man and admit he spread a lie about democrats, and the latest lie about my conditions for admitting his comments. Or he can go to Hell. Jesus and I don't approve of liars. We love them, but hate their sins."

I wonder whether Chuck's last grasp at salvation was when he joined the "Reformed Protestant Church". I can only suppose it's because he's led a life of extreme dishonesty, vulgarity and cheating, but then he heard Rabbi Jesus would forgive all. Now he wallows in his own stench once again. The good Rabbi only forgave those who were truly repentant. I'm quite sure Chuck isn't.

By the way, he left a long comment on my blog also. I deleted it.

He's definitely a sicko -- one of the highest magnitude.

Dave Dubya said...

JG,
Chuck reminds me of the Frank Zappa song, "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk". He thinks he's saved, and that it allows him to spew hate and lies.

Self-righteous hypocrites represent a large share of the con-servative cult. It's not surprising these so-called Christians are more pro-torture than atheists, as well.

Now the Trumpist Lizard Brains are running the country. That should work out well.



Darrell Michaels said...

Dave and JG, you guys are a little over the top here. Christ also tells us that He is the judge and it is not our places to condemn others. That is something left for God alone to do. We can and should discern and not condone immoral or ungodly behavior, but hateful rhetoric in doing so only proves that we ourselves are in desperate need of God's sanctifying grace also.

Dave Dubya said...

We can and should discern and not condone immoral or ungodly behavior

Of course. That is why I am deleting his lies and slurs. He was caught spreading a demonizing lie. He's not man enough to admit it, or he's just vile and dishonest to the core. Both would be a fair impression.

And yet you choose to lecture JG and me for being "a little over the top", but not the proven liar...

Strange. I think there's a message there.

As I've often noted, biased false beliefs and lies that conform to ideology trump facts on the Right. They are as unapologetic as the day is long. Look to our Republican liar for proof.

Another case of IOKIYAR to lie? Seems that way. You seem as unwilling to call out Majorliar as he is to criticize Trump. Remember my little observation about far Right conformity, especially when it comes to demonizing? It's real.

Trump proves it daily. That vulgar lying jerk has demeaned the office more in two months than all previous presidents. Obama still gets most of your bile.

You two whined about Michael Moore and me saying Trump exploited a grieving widow while denying accountability for her loss. Another point you both ignore in order to attack liberals.

Then the Republican liar pastes a bald-faced lie about Democrats disrespecting the widow.

How low can that shameless cult go? Much lower, I'm sure. Con-servatives and Trumpists scorn both the truth and human decency.

Sorry if that observation seems over the top. Maybe the truth hurts. That could be another reason to tolerate lies and falsehoods and direct enmity towards the truth tellers.








Darrell Michaels said...

Majormajor, I will leave you to play in this litterbox... errr... I meant sandbox.

When one can only point out the lies of his "enemies" but not recognize them when he spews them forth, then there really isn't any need for me to contribute to the "conversation" anymore. Time to take a break from "Freedom Rants" for awhile...

Cheers to all of you!

Dave Dubya said...

TP,

He is a LIAR. And you can't admit it.

His lies are tolerated and excused. JG and I are chastised. That's con-servatism at its core. We get it. Beliefs trump facts. Liberals are always the bad guys, etc.

We know you don't want to offend your little echo boy, even when he dumps all his hateful crap and lies. Thanks for lecturing ME for calling him out.

You have successfully abetted his lies. Well done, sir. It's the far Right thing to do. So it IS IOKIYAR, after all. Just as we've seen all along.

I rest my case.

And thank you for helping make it.

Cheers to you!

Majormajor said...

Trump's first full month in office brings massive employment boom as U.S. companies added whopping 298,000 new jobs in February

Dave Dubya said...

"Does anyone remember when lying was wrong?" - Freeway Blogger

Majormajor said...

Hey Dave, get over it I corrected the quote.

Samsung Plans U.S. Expansion, Would Shift Manufacturing From Mexico
Initial capital investment is expected to be around $300 million..




politicsthatwork.com/economic-record-president/obama

Obama Is The First President Since Hoover Not to See 3% GDP Growth

Dave Dubya said...


Real, or fake "news"?

Hey Dave, get over it I corrected the quote.

Corrected what quote?

This one?

And when President Trump honored the widow of a fallen American SEAL the Democrats sat stone-faced and silent.

"Corrected" by this?

"Jim O'Neill is a liar."

Of course he is, anyone to the right of Dave is a liar, a racist, a Fascist, an authoritarian, KKK member, or stupid man cause climate change denier.

Rather weak in sincerity, wouldn't it appear?

Then there was this lie.

As dear leader Dave has promised to remove my future posts until I accept a bet from him.

Since Major Chuck lies about me all the time, we don't expect this to be "corrected" soon.

Being the generous type, and barring the need for further "correcting", we can accept this last word on the matter.

Majormajor has admitted "Jim O'Neill is a liar." And the Jim O'Neill lie Majormajor propagated was, "when President Trump honored the widow of a fallen American SEAL the Democrats sat stone-faced and silent."

Correct?

Excellent. We may now proceed with the show.




Majormajor said...

Dave,

Thanks but no thanks.

I'm leaving this litter box that you call your blog.

I don't need the approval or acceptance from one so low on the evolution chart that they agree and identify with Michael Moore.

See ya pal!

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

"Majormajor, I will leave you to play in this litterbox... errr... I meant sandbox."

God Bless you Mr. Paine. You are a voice of reason.

Thank you in your posts with the 2 deflecting, hypercritical, pretzel logic spewing disciples of Saul Alinsky on this litterbox...errrr I meant Marxist shithole that nobody regularly posts on but whack jobs like those who believe WT7 was brought down by "controlled demolition".

Hopefully President Trump will terminate the progressive cancer that has metastasized throughout the Federal government started by the Liberal Fascist FDR.

Thank you Barry Obama and your "Dreams Of My Marxist Father" for 8 years of your police state reign that has led to the lowest level of Democratic representation at the Federal and State level in 100 years!

Thank you Russia and Julian Assange for exposing the email of the DNC to show how vile and dirty the DemocRATS are!

Dave Dubya said...

Aww. I'm sure that kind of camaraderie from Arch is just the endorsement, and mega-dose of demonization by con-sense, Mr. Paine needs.

Isn't it a grand time for con-servatives? And for Putin? And for Billionaires? And for polluters? And Wall Street?

Dear Leader, our dictator-loving, "man of the people" has arrived.

And Russia LOVES Putin's useful idiot, our own Komrad Arch.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave, I see the nasty personification of "Eve White" has chosen to stay, although with a commitment from Chuck that he's vacating the premises, I have to smile. ;-)

The country was fixable before Donald Trump. It would have taken a lot of work and forbearance, but there was at least a glimmer of hope. With Donald Trump at the top of the heap, that hope has been extinguished. Continuing the work of the previous five presidencies, look for hyper-escalation on all fronts under the Trump Administration. The Trumpie deplorables may start waking up -- some sooner than others -- and start soiling their collective pants once the Trump Train gets into high gear.

Who's that man behind the curtain?

Dave Dubya said...

Thanks for the link. The radical Right propaganda ministry that is dooming democracy is controlled by its own Axis of Evil, of Murdoch, Mercer and Bannon.

They openly adopted the Nazi tactic of shouting "Lugenpresse" (Lying press) at Trump's Nuremberg style rallies. Now Dear Leader has launched all out war on our free press.

Fascism has arrived. Trumpists are yelling, "get out of my country", as they shoot immigrants.

I wonder if Major Chuck understands what evolution means with "one so low on the evolution chart".

I'd certainly like to see his "chart".