"Call
it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better
distribution of wealth within this country for all God's children."
—Martin Luther King, Jr.
I have long favored democratic socialism in the Bernie Sanders vein. In a world of shifting ideology and world views, it would seem the label would now be "social democrat" that reflects European Social Democracy.
Now that the DSA has lost it’s common sense and grounding in reality with their interpretation of democratic socialism, I would call on AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and Zohran Mamdani to disavow their ties to that party. The Democratic Party needs to embrace progressive policies that actually help Americans maintain their inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
We don’t need wackos who welcome communists into their party giving Republicans their excuse to revive McCarthyism and to smear every opponent as a communist. This is exacerbating their hate and fascism, not opposing it.
Yes, I agree with the DSA when they advocate public health and public education, as exemplified in Western Europe. I support higher income and wealth taxes on the ultra-rich. I agree the Electoral College should be eliminated. I support dismantling the criminal and unaccountable rogue ICE agency. They were established 23 years ago with the Department of Homeland Security in reaction to 9-11. We survived over 220 years without them and can do just fine without them.
But come on, when Megan Romer blathered on about having “no borders”, who the hell does she think would go along with that?
Other absurd tenets of the party are delusional and deal breakers for all but the most extreme Left. (I’m not one of them. But I know fascist MAGA dupes will refuse to understand this.)
I’ll mention a few of the DSA policies that only alienate the vast majority of Americans.
“You work as much as you are able and no more than needed.”
That’s Marxism, as in, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". I may be ABLE to work 80 hours a week, but I sure as hell don’t want to, and glad I don’t have to.
“Food, education, energy, medicine, and transportation aren’t for-profit businesses; they are common goods and utilities.”
If this means I can’t go out to my favorite restaurants, forget it! Yes to public education and medicine, but energy and transportation need to be addressed rationally with cooperative utilities management and serious budget considerations.
“Demilitarize police departments, disempower police unions, and redirect funding to public services as steps towards fully abolishing the police and prison system which protects the rich and jails the poor. Treat drug addiction and mental illness as health issues, not crimes. End qualified immunity and empower civilian oversight bodies with real authority over the police.”
They had me at demilitarize police departments, disempower police unions, redirect funding to public services, and ending qualified immunity for rogue ICE agents and violent cops, but sorry, we need public safety and a way to remove violent thugs from society. Look at how Trump praised, pardoned, and wants to PAY his J6 thugs for terrorizing Congress and beating cops bloody in his insurrection. Ironically, Trump is more communist than any Democrat in his freeing and rewarding criminals, and his state acquisition and control of corporations and media.
“For the working class to govern, we need a new political system. End political corruption and legalized bribery: get rid of lobbyists, dark money, and Citizens United, and publicly finance all elections. Abolish the Electoral College. Replace the President and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary chosen by and subordinate to Congress.”
Lofty ideals. How to get there would be the problem. I’m with them up to the last sentence. I still support the founders’ idea of three coequal branches of government for checks and balances. Yeah, that’s totally a fiction now, but salvageable if we bury MAGA and get sane people in office.
Anyway, the bottom line is the DSA is essentially a destabilizing movement in so many ways. All we need is for the Democratic Party to embrace its progressive ideals of civil rights, voter rights, and an economy that benefits working class and poor Americans.
Again,
I return to my embrace of the socialist ideals in our Constitution. We need our
fair representation, rights, and civil liberties, along with the taxes,
regulation of commerce, and provision for the general welfare in our foundation
of law.
Who has a problem with that?
For perspective, Democrats don't vote for communists.
MAGA voters, on the other hand...
Posts
40 comments:
Leave it to the Democrats to make it look so easy to snatch defeat away from the jaws of victory.
Hmm, no problem with any of your ideas . I could, and would. Support them all. In fact I've been quite vocal about it.
I also have grown to realize Karl Marx was a visionary who had the ability to recognize the good capitalism was in comparison to fuedalism and Monarchy. He also had the intelligence to recognize the evil energies that are inherent in the for profit only system of economic activity which drives wealth and security to the capitalist class. Thus his embrace of a socialistic and more communal system and eschewing the indivisual good over the good of the whole. The results of this turning away from the General Welfare we see today in Citizens United and our broken for profit Capitalist Health Care System overseen and controlled by bean counters and insurance oligarchs.
I disagree that we need only two party's. We should have a healthy democratic party, republican party, DSA Party, CPA, Green Party, and any other party with a cogent vision for a rapidly changing America. A system where ALL voices are heard and respected.
At any rate America under the boot of trumo and MAGA is seriously broken and the weak kneed democrats are ill equipped with talent and a vision to fix it. Quickly.
Just hating thr moron trump and his sycophants will not be enough. The party needs new dynamic blood running the party. Rather than the fossils that are running it now. The present democratic party is really republican extra light.
So you ARE a COMMIE!
Dave said.... Trump is more communist than any Democrat...
When government takes control of, or ownership stakes in private industry, I'm thinking that's either, or on the road to socialism. When the Feds, under Carter bailed out Chrysler in 1979, conservatives such as Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan and even candidate Reagan, opposed it as socialism, creeping socialism or corporate socialism.
When the bailouts of the 2000s came up, both the right and the left criticized them as socialism.
When the Obama Admin invested in Solyndra in 2009, conservatives were quick to pounce on the investment in that company as socialism as well.
Trump is doing way more on this front than any former Dem. Look at this list of US companies...
Intel, GlobalFoundries, Kepler Computing, Multibeam Corporation, Extropic, Thintronics, OBSIDIA Semiconductors, Aelumax, LightMP Materials, Lithium Americas,Trilogy Metals, Korea Zinc...
I could go on and on.
Our government, taking an ownership stake in those companies is by definition, socialistic. And it's happening at warp speed under President Trump.
Anyone who criticizes the DSA as leading us straight to hell in a hand basket of socialism, and does not include the actions of our sitting president, is either an idiot, uninformed, or intellectually dishonest.
Because we are already in that hand basket. Most people just aren't aware of it.
I don't agree with all the goals of DSA, just like I don't agree with all the goals of the Dems, or the GOP. But it does not follow that all of their goals and ideas are evil.
Unless of course you live with your brain turned off.
No, Anonymous, but YOU are the type of idiotic fascist MAGA dupe I mentioned.
"Other absurd tenets of the party are delusional and deal breakers for all but the most extreme Left. (I’m not one of them. But I know fascist MAGA dupes will refuse to understand this.)"
The stupidity runs deep in MAGA, where their malevolent mendacious messiah chortled, "I love the poorly educated".
This is what is so infuriating about Democrats. SO weak on messaging and discipline, they forget to OPPOSE the radical MAGA fascists.
Marx saw the destruction 19th Century capitalism wrought.
Without Constitutional regulation of commerce, taxing the elites, and provision for the general welfare, we may as well be regressing back to 1850.
Dave,
Your reasoning is sound and information is accurate. And you predicted our troll with, "Unless of course you live with your brain turned off".
The cult is terrified of critical thinking, probably because they think it's communism. LOL!
The Democrat Party is in real trouble. Just ask Bill Maher.
Maher took direct aim at the Democratic Socialists of America and the wave of far-left candidates the party keeps promoting, and he did it by simply reading their own words back to the audience."Trump has told 1 trillion lies, but when he says the DSA are actually communists, that's not one of them," Maher said. "And it's not hard to prove it just by quoting the DSA and their candidates."
Anonymous,
1. Did you read the post?
2. Who cares what Bill Maher says?
3. The DSA is NOT the Democratic Party
4. Trump says Democrats are communists. A VERY Big Lie.
5. Democrats do not promote DSA. They OPPOSE them in primaries.
6. Did you read the post?
Democratic socialism is still better than facist capitalism or anarchy.
Fascism is an econimic system authoritarian politicians are in love with, like trump, A facist system it can be manipulated to drive capital and wealth accumulation to the top of the capitalist class and ruling oligarchs. Mussolini and Hitler both loved capitalism. It benefitted them. Just like it is doing for our own capitalist facist trump.
Democracy with the impartial rule of law is the last bastion against totalitarianism.
No wonder Trump and his party hate democracy and the impartial rule of law.
"Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God's children."
—Martin Luther King, Jr.
Something the western capitalist order has always fought against and will forever stand against. For capitalism's god is obscene profits and its only goal is wealth accumulation being driven to the capitalists themselves. Through the exploitation of labor and constant austerity and removal of safety nets for the masses.
Trillionaires and multi-billionaires are made possible by the westrrncapitalist economic system of total se l f interestand greed..
Dave... Anon didn't read the post because in his or her mind, it's from someone who hates America. And besides, reading is really hard for some people.
Yeah, Dave. Our semi-literate closed-minded troll thinks he has all the answers before giving anything a thought. Critical thinking is an alien concept to the authoritarian personalities of the Trump cult. Their leader tells them what to believe so thinking is never required of them.
Classic Dunning-Kruger effect. Stupid people need to think they're smart.
"Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God's children." --MLK, Jr.
Something has to change. This nation cannot flourish with the inequality problem facing it. I've yet to hear anything from the GOP on how to fix that. All we get from Trump are plans to paint more statues gold.
Here's what interesting Dave... the poor working stiffs who still support Trump are mad at the immigrant who works for $12 bucks an hour. Not the guys who own those companies and only want to pay $12 bucks an hour.
Maybe if all those guys bitching about immigrants went and picked pecans for that 12 bucks, we wouldn't need immigrants.
Capitalists learned centuries ago that their system only works with low end captive labor. First we used slaves. Then women. Now it's immigrants.
In 2006 there was a story about Diversified Landscape Management Inc. from Riverside, CA. They were paying $34.00 an hour, with benefits. White guys complaining about low wages would not work at the company. Only illegal immigrants.
Maybe our resident trolls can explain why US Citizens would not take those jobs and what a company should do in that case.
Bottom line... everyone who praises unbridled capitalism should have to wrestle with the above story and explain why anyone "needs" $10 billion in their bank account.
Until the majority of people fully understand how capitalism works, and that it has always depended on keeping wages as low as possible for the wage slaves, in order the drive wealth accumulation to the capital class (now mega multi-millionanires, billionaires, and trillionaires) nothing will change.
The capitalist economic model is deeply entrenched and the capitalists propaganda, along with government support, has insured the masses have no alternative but to accept the capitalist system. One which is based in the greed of the capitalist class.
The phenomenal income (wealth) inequality that exists in America, right now today, is by far worse than ever before. And getting worse almost by the month, if not day.
Keeping people sleeping in ignorance of the truth IS the goal of the capitalist class. As well as the government that supports it. Note, there is always money for the MIC and pet projects of politicians and legislators, but there is NEVER enough money for decent Healthcare for all, safety nets for those needing them, education, infrastructure, proper environmental stewardship, ect. That is all by design of the capitalist class and governments who fully suport them. At the expense of the rest of us.
America always has money for destruction and death by war. Usually built around BS propaganda about someone else evil deeds. It is time America and the west starts looking in the mirror.
I'm not going to be holding my breath for change. It is VERY likely the only way to change the capitalist stranglehold is, as Karl Marx realized, by economic revolution led by the non capitalist class.
"The phenomenal income (wealth) inequality that exists in America, right now today, is by far worse than ever before. And getting worse almost by the month, if not day."
Solution?
Communism, of course.
Also Anonymous: "Facts I hate and can't rationally refute are communism".
More examples of "MAGA Idiots' Communism":
Biden won in 2020.
Trump is liar.
Trump is a convicted felon, pedophile, and sex offender.
Most Americans (60%)oppose his stupid war.
Most Americans (60%) have an unfavorable view of Trump.
Yup, ask any MAGA Moran and they'll say it's communism.
When ya got absolutely nothing play the victim card. Then scream communism
The MAGA playbook in summary.
I had a convo with the friend the other day. He asked me why i thought Americans want communism here.
I've yet to hear a single person in the nation who is serious about running for office say they want America to be communist.
Not. A. One.
But then facts don't matter to the we have to bomb Iran crowd so they can send a missile they don't have, tipping with a bomb they also don't and have never had, 8000 miles across an ocean, to "nuke" us.
When you live in fantasy land...
What can we say?
Dave,
I would have asked him what compelled him to ask such a question. Sounds like a MAGA koolade drinker.
Reality Bites: Socialist NYC Mayor Mamdani Turns to Capitalist Bankers for Help. Looks like socialism can't exist without capitalism....right Dave and Les?
Mamdani invited bankers to the table for discussion, fool.
You have it backwards. Wall Street couldn't survive without SOCIALIZED bailouts. And they never REPAID us!!
Who the hell do you think PAID to bail out Wall Street? WE DID.
"Socialism for the rich and screw the rest" is what you really want.
You know how stupid someone is when they think the Robber Baron age was better than having social safety nets.
Anonymous wants to bring back 6 day workweeks and child labor because he wants the rich to rule over all of us.
Anonymous will not respond to facts, of course. He's in a cult.
Dave, I've finally realized that it is almost impossible to educate idiots who resist knowledge and facts.
For them the important issue is to find ways to protect their very fragile egos and prop up their conditioned reified beliefs. Even when the critical thinking universe demonstrates their beliefs and feelings are false.
trump fits this scenario, and every one of his MAGA cultists fall in line because they need authoritarian morons like trump to think for them.
The cabal of Christian Nationalists and reichwing authoritarians in the republican party over many years of actively working to dumb down America have succeeded. The result being personified in their cult leader donald
j. trump. An authoritarian fascist and mental midget.
Dave.. we bailed out the auto industry... twice! First with Chrysler in 1979 and then GM during the crash of 2008-2008..
We also bailed out Wall Street during the financial crash.
We subsidize the cost of many commodities here in the US and guarantee a minimum sale price for corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, and rice.
All of this deviates, yes I know, it's a big word, from pure capitalism. It also leans into socialism, using the levers of government to benefit certain industries and in some cases control both production and labor.
What's striking is this, and I'd love to hear anon or anyone else chime in on it... we seem to okay with helping these industries. It's good for the US we hear, after all, these folks are too big to fail.
But when it comes to a mom and pop shop or Mr. and Mrs. Smith going bankrupt over medical costs, we hear about individual responsibility. But what about corporate responsibility?
Is expecting that socialism?
For some, apparently the answer is yes.
Les and Dave,
Yes, and the lesson from this is when a leader defines reality for his cult, he will be able to be as corrupt as possible and freely commit crimes.
And here we are.
"In a stunning moment, Michigan Senate candidate Abdulrahman Mohamed El Sayed (D) says the middle class will pay MORE TAXES under his socialist healthcare program" Hasan Piker
Piker didn't say that, you LIAR.
And you forgot about the part where we WON'T PAY insurance corporations that do NOTHING to provide healthcare. All they do is get between patients and their doctors or DENY benefits. What idiot wants THAT?
Besides Anonymous and his gullible cult, that is.
Radical Right PJ Media clutches its pearls in fear of rich CEOs losing their cut out of our healthcare dollars and forcing Americans into medical bankruptcy.
El-Sayed: So for the average person, you look at your W-2, if you're an employee who gets paid every two weeks, after you pay your taxes, the next biggest check that comes off the top of your paystub is to your health insurance company. So imagine that instead of paying that to your health insurance company whose CEO makes $20 million a year, instead, you paid a little bit more in taxes for health care you wouldn't lose if you lost your job or turned 26, or got married, or got divorced.
The ignorance and delusions of the reichwing fascists who really don't care if you can afford insurance or if you die as a result of not being able to will rush to support the capital class of insurers and pharmaceuticals who have absolutely zero problem screwing We the People to insure their own obscene wealth remains in tack.
El-Sayed conceded in a Meet the Press appearance that taxpayers under $1 million would pay "a little bit more in taxes", but he argued would replace private premiums and deductibles for tax payers, likely resulting in higher net income for families.
To me, it looks like a trade off. We pay the gov't taxes to make our health insurance deal rather than us privately looking around for an option.
Is that better? Who knows. I get the argument though from the MAGA folks. Everyone should be "free" to get or not there own health insurance. But that only works if when then free non insured ppl or their kids get hurt, or need a doctor for a serious illness, they have the ability to pay for care.
It's be like this... Let's say a non insured Anon has a kid who has is experiencing kidney failure. If Anon can't afford the bill, he can tell his kid he's living in a "free country", but the cost of that freedom is he's going to die. Because dad chose freedom over responsibility.
Dave,
It's not unlikely that Anonymous will have issues with insurance companies that leave him out in the cold.
No country with universal healthcare would trade places with our system. Only Americans are so stupid.
We don't have universal healthcare, nor are we the freest nation on earth. And, under the rightwing fascist republican party we are becoming less free almost daily. Thanks to Project 2025 and te trump administration.
Say what you may but my impression of El-Sayed , is that he is a lying , disgusting piece of SHIT that should not be anywhere in American politics. and I will vote AGAINST him if I ever get the opportunity
Thanks Anon... I've always preferred open and honest racist bigots. It's easier to know where you stand that way. No need to guess.
Since you said I can say what I may, I'll go with this... You're an honest, based on your racist views, disgusting person I don't want anywhere near American politics.
But I assume you're a citizen, like Mamdami, so voting, and even running for elected office, is your Constitutional right.
Anonymous is the kind of lying, disgusting piece of shit who accuses someone of being a lying, disgusting piece of shit without providing any evidence of word or deed that would befit the person he hates.
It just indicates the hateful projection and ignorance we see in every lying, disgusting piece of shit.
anon@ 7:11 PM making his Fuhrer very proud of him. His bigotry and racism mirrors that of his cult Fuhrer trump and the reichwing republican party. I'm certain anon@ 7:11 PM is a very good whittle brown shirt as it serves its Fuhrer well.
Post a Comment