Sunday, August 26, 2018

Any Bets?


John McCain is gone. Also gone is the last gasp of moderation and decency in conservatism and the Republican Party.

While he never met a war he didn't like, and cursed our nation with the ignorance of Sarah Palin, McCain had a sense of honor and basic human decency that is no longer found in American Con-servatism. 

He is now a relic of the past.

While campaigning in 2008, McCain did the decent thing, and told a fearful low-information voter that he didn’t have to be "scared" of Obama. The very next moment a frightened woman said, “I can’t trust Obama. I have read about him, and he’s not, um, he’s an Arab.” 

He did the decent thing again.

“No, ma’m,” he said. “He’s a decent family man [and] citizen that just I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what the campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab].” 

Now those same frightened ill-informed people are listening to Trump. They are why Trump is in the White House, thanks to the Right's propaganda machinery.

In accepting the Freedom Medal at the National Constitutional Center in October, McCain condemned “half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems.”

This is what separated him from the Trump Crime Cartel. If only he could have realized that is almost the entire MO of con-servatism.


McCain made one last decent contribution to his country. He invited George W. Bush and Barack Obama to share the eulogy at his funeral. Not inviting the current president was his last gesture of decency, briefly uniting Americans of both major parties. The Party of Trump was not invited.

The hated “liberal media” and “enemy of the people” are all running thoughtful tributes to the veteran, former POW and senator. It is a reflection of basic human decency.

John Kerry and Al Gore also put their lives on the line in Vietnam. Will con-servatives and FOX (R) and Breitbart show equal decency and respect, or any admiration at all for them?

Any bets on their decency? 

134 comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't forget Robert Mueller was also in Vietnam.

Ex Con servative said...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that President Obama was one of three people chosen to give the eulogy at the funeral, and that Trump was asked to not attend or not invited. Is this true?

Dave Dubya said...

Anon,
We shouldn't forget anyone who went over there.

Ex Con,
Not invited. Thank you for mentioning that. McCain's final act of decency was worth adding to the post.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Indeed, the mobster-in-chief has been snubbed and uninvited to McCain's funeral. As a matter of fact, former President Barack Obama has been asked to give the eulogy.

Imagine that!

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Don't forget Robert Mueller was also in Vietnam." ~~ Anonymous

Speaking of Robert Mueller, I heard a rumor that a recent Fox News survey had him polling higher in approval than Donald Trump.

Can anyone confirm this?

Dave Dubya said...

McCain's final message was summed nicely in the meme:

"Sorry Trump. I just prefer presidents who weren't captured by Putin".

Anonymous said...

Dave, I had to chuckle, but so very true with the "Sorry Trump. I just prefer presidents who weren't captured by Putin". I'm getting more favorable responses to my Putin's puppet sign than unfavorable ones also.

U.P. Tim said...

I'm sorry Anonymous, I don't know how that happened. I screwed-up somehow and don't know how to correct my error. Sorry again.

Majormajor said...

You guys hated McCain. Remember?

"Well war monger John McCain finally kicked the bucket, good riddance!"

TB3 said...

You guys?

Dave Dubya said...

Majormajor,
Is that your idea of saying something decent about a dead veteran? Projecting hate. Thanks for the supporting evidence of my case.

TB3,
Poor MM is confused. He doesn't know what Trump and his party want him so say yet.

Dave Dubya said...

Tim,
Thank you again for your service to humanity and decency.

Ex Con servative said...

John McCain was a decent man, who went through some unimaginable hardships.Barack Obama is a decent man also. Not everybody agreed with either of them regarding their views, yet you cannot honestly dispute the fact that overall they were (are) good men.

Donald Trump is not a good, decent man...just the truth. The only people that say he is, have changed the meaning of the words to fit their agenda. He never has been a good man, and never will be.

If I had children, I would teach them to NOT emulate anything he does. Embarrassing.

Majormajor said...

Hey DD, I didn't say that about McCain, it was Woodenman who did, not me. It was liberal who said that, not me..But you knew that.

Dave Dubya said...

MM,
But you knew that.

Nobody here had any reason to know who you quoted. You didn't say! And it's not even in this thread.

And it was an individual's statement, not "you guys".

But you're right that a lot of liberals didn't like McCain. The same is true for you and Trump, and other far Right conservatives.

Despite his flaws, (McCain voted for Trump's positions 83% of the time.) he earned due respect, and even forgiveness for the times he saw the light.

Unlike Trump, McCain could show basic human decency. I'm just stating the obvious.

Majormajor said...

But you knew and in typical DD leftist manner put into my mouth the words of someone else. I was just defending myself, get a grip. I haven't said word about McCain but other leftists have so I quoted one. Would you like more quotes from the hate filled left?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"'Sorry Trump. I just prefer presidents who weren't captured by Putin'." ~~ Dave Dubya

LOL Great last words, from the last of his breed -- to the maniacal president leading and representing the new one.

Majormajor said...

Fake last great words.

Dave Dubya said...

To be clear I quoted a meme that summed McCain's message. Go look.

Since MM has great difficulty crediting people their words, I'll offer McCain's exact final farewell words.
==

We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. We weaken it when we hide behind walls rather than tear them down, when we doubt the power of our ideals, rather than trust them to be the great force for change they’ve always been.

We are 325 million opinionated, vociferous individuals. We argue and compete and sometimes even vilify each other in our raucous public debates. But we have always had so much more in common with each other than in disagreement. If only we remember that and give each other the benefit of the presumption that we all love our country, we will get through these challenging times. We will come through them stronger than before. We always do.

Ten years ago, I had the privilege to concede defeat in the election for president. I want to end my farewell to you with the heartfelt faith in Americans that I felt so powerfully that evening.

I feel it powerfully still.

Do not despair of our present difficulties but believe always in the promise and greatness of America, because nothing is inevitable here. Americans never quit. We never surrender. We never hide from history. We make history.

Farewell, fellow Americans. God bless you and God bless America.

==

This is why many on the Left have a measure of respect for McCain. And it is why the Right hates him. They have embraced hate, and abandoned decency. As long as those in power embrace hate and abandon decency, I'm afraid we will not "get through these challenging times".


TB3 said...

Great sentiment. Too bad a small but significant number of people will either not see these words or refuse to consider them.

Kinda like how that small small but significant number of people have no idea what MAGA means or how to accomplish it. Schrodinger's Greatness; America is both great and not great at the same time

Dave Dubya said...

...America is both great and not great at the same time.

“Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality.”

― Theodor Adorno

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"To be clear I quoted a meme that summed McCain's message. Go look." ~~ Dave Dubya

Of course the resident troll, with ongoing comprehension challeges, didn't pick up on that very significant detail.

No surprise.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

That's "challenges", which Chuck exhibits all the time, and which I have with my cell's auto-correct. ;-)

Majormajor said...

I quoted Woodenman, a strong Conservative, LOL

TB3 said...

It's always interesting the things he defends and the things he ignores.

Dave Dubya said...

TB3,
As usual, MM ignores the subject at hand. Instead of agreeing or disagreeing or adding a related point of observation, he needed to go to "Whatabout over there!"

He hasn't got the official Party of Trump message on what to say about McCain yet. Best to ignore the man. And when decency itself is also the subject, that should be avoided at all costs.

Majormajor said...

Only in Bizarro Leftist World is correcting the record thought of as deflection. Or off topic. Even though the topic of this threat included McCain, so how dare one post something that doesn't attack President Trump.
So sad.

Dave Dubya said...

MM,
What "record" was corrected?

TB3 said...

Certainly not the scratched one wobbling on the turntable in his head.

It would explain the sudden jumps and skips from schitzophrenic throught to schitzophrenic thought.

Majormajor said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA


Dave Dubya said...

Ah, I guess Majormajor is correcting a Tom Petty record?

How nice. Unless you happen to be a "Refugee".

Dave Dubya said...

so how dare one post something that doesn't attack President Trump. So sad.

That happens to be every comment he ever made. So sad.

Not to deflect from "correcting the record", I'd like to mention the other end of life message McCain sent by inviting Obama and Bush, and NOT inviting Palin. Like finally admitting the Iraq war was unjustified, he admitted putting Palin into our national politics was a mistake. He realized she was the shrill, ignorant, hate-filled harbinger of Trumpism.

And to deflect to what MM is doing his best to ignore we have this, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

* 63 percent of Americans support Robert S. Mueller III's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.
* 67 percent of Americans say Mueller's investigation against Trump's former campaign chief, Paul Manafort, was justified. A jury found Manafort guilty of bank and tax fraud last week.
* 53 percent of Americans think Trump tried to interfere with Mueller's investigation in a way that amounts to obstruction of justice.
* 60 percent of Americans don't approve of the job Trump's doing as president.
* 49 percent of Americans think Congress should begin impeachment proceedings.
Trump still has a majority of Republicans on his side on most of these issues. But, critically, not the nation.
* 64 percent of Americans think Trump should not fire Sessions, including nearly half of Republicans.
* 62 percent of them say they think Sessions was following the law in recusing himself from overseeing the Russia investigation.

It is unfortunate MM is unable to comment on Trump's sinking approval and growing rejection by the American people.

And what about the 53 percent who know he's a crook? Quick! Look! Whatabout over there???

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Crickets from Chuck, Dave. That's about all you're going to get.

The walls are closing in on Chuck's fuhrer. I wonder if the feeling is any way similar, even if only a little bit, to what Hitler felt in his underground bunker those last few days?

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Dave Dubya said...

As I said, "Quick! Look! Whatabout over there???"

And that's just what he did!

MM was naughty again, and dumped a load of c&p recycled, uncredited, Trumpist lies and smears of the FBI.

It was duly flushed for the CRAP it is.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/fbi-corruption-decades-in-a-nutshell-commentary-on-clinton-foundation-misleading/

Summary of eRumor:
A commentary titled “FBI Corruption … Decades in a Nutshell” draws links between the Clinton Foundation, Robert Mueller,James Comes and the ongoing investigation of the Trump campaign.

The Truth:
The “FBI Corruption … Decades in a Nutshell” is at least rooted in truth. But facts and details are intentionally misrepresented to advance of FBI corruption. For that reason, we’re calling the commentary “misleading.”

It’s clear that its claims are misleading, and in some cases outright false. We’re not going to bother fact-checking the rest of it. Given that many of the details are rooted in fact but are presented inaccurately, we’re calling this commentary “misleading.”

And still.... 63 percent of Americans support Robert S. Mueller III's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. AND 53 percent of Americans think Trump tried to interfere with Mueller's investigation in a way that amounts to obstruction of justice.

No wonder he needed to deflect so frantically.



Majormajor said...

Hey Dave, delete all you truth want, the truth is still out there and you are foolish man to deny it.
Leftist censorship of anything they don't like...so typical, so normal for a group that want to ban so many things that our Constitution guarantees us.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/old-school-eulogy-aretha-franklin-funeral-ignites-wrath-005834257.html

So afraid of the truth, so sad.

TB3 said...

Explain what leftists want to ban, MM. For all the world, to me, it seems our Constitutionally elected President is the one that keeps using rhetoric that is anti-Constitutional.

Dave Dubya said...

Majormajor is upset I deleted his lengthy dishonest deflection. Too bad. He’s been fairly warned what happens when he does that. He still has the right to be a stupid liar and call me foolish.

Majormajor knows I won’t tolerate his uncredited and unsourced copy and paste propaganda. But he is rude and disrespectful enough to do it again and again.

MM in his typical authoritarian manner accuses me of being “foolish for denying” what he claims is truth. (While he was inconsiderate to not reveal his source, I was considerate enough to show where his BS is exposed for what it is.)

Why isn’t he happy with that? Because in his hateful anger he wants to deflect, accuse and play the victim card. See Authoritarian Rules and Tactics for Discourse for more such dishonest methods they use.

This crazy bit from a eulogy for Aretha must be what sent the tingle up MM’s leg:

"No, black lives do not matter," Rev. Williams said. "Black lives will not matter, black lives ought not matter, black lives should not matter, black lives must not matter until black people start respecting black lives and stop killing ourselves."

Imagine if we played his game and replaced black with white, human, or American lives.

White Americans kill each other too, you know.

"No, white American lives do not matter. White American lives will not matter, white American lives ought not matter, white American lives should not matter, white American lives must not matter until white American people start respecting white American lives and stop killing ourselves."

This would mean MM’s life does not matter, MM’s life will not matter, MM’s life ought not matter, MM’s life should not matter, MM’s life must not matter until white American people start respecting white American lives and stop killing ourselves.

Sounds just as crazy to me. I guess it makes sense to Majormajor, amirite?

For a decent, respectful, uplifting eulogy, I would suggest MM hear Obama’s eulogy for McCain. But he won’t listen to that Black Guy, will he?

Ex Con servative said...

Meghan McCain had a touching, very emotional eulogy for her father. She also made many references to our wonderful orange leader. You really have to watch it. The difference between the two men couldn't be more great, and she eloquently made her point.

I'm glad the undemocratic, unconstitutional, censoring, anti free media, cowardly, dishonest, and mean spirited fool was not invited. It would have been a disgrace.

The left wants to censor any dissenting opinion? The exact thing that Drumpf does on a daily basis? Wow. We really are in trouble.

Majormajor said...

"Explain what leftists want to ban, MM. "

Go here http://savingcommonsense.blogspot.com/ to see what DD removed, again proving that leftist can not compete in the free market place of ideas. But hurry, I'm sure chicken Dave will remove this very soon.

TB3 said...

This is a personal blog's comment section, not the free market.

Dave Dubya said...

Ex Con,
MM wishes he could censor what we say, but he can't. So he does the next best thing and go through his authoritarian playbook to distract, deflect, distort, demean, dismiss, etc.

TB3,
Instead MM telling you what leftists want to ban, he simply dismissed your request and ordered you to go look elsewhere. How authoritarian is that? Even after I already showed where his BS could be seen and was evaluated at www.truthorfiction.com


Authoritarians HATE to answer questions. That's why they hate liberals and the press. We use our First Amendment right for it's intended purpose, to redress grievances, to question authority and speak our conscience.

Majormajor prefers to express his free speech by employing authoritarian rules and tactics, playing his victim card and demeaning me as "foolish chicken Dave". He's the real victim here, you know.

It's hilarious how he howls about "censorship" in his deflections to victimhood, while his personal insults for me remain in plain sight. He's emulating Trump all the way.

So sad.

But then again, his behavior is the subject of our discussion of the death of decency on the con-servative Trump Right.

He doesn't have the insight to understand this, of course.

Kind of funny. But so sad.



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Jefferson's Guardian said...

Jesus! I just realized the name of "Chuck's" street address! Must be a Klan gated-community! LOL

Dave Dubya said...

JG,
Let's give "MajorTim" some credit. At least he had the courtesy to cite his source at TP's blog!

I still doubt he has the capability to author even that junk. But he is definitely the kind that is eroding truth and decency by pushing all those false far Right/Russian propaganda email forwards.

He's the crazed old uncle shaking his fist at clouds, blaming liberals for rain on his picnic of cheap hot dogs and Hannity on the radio.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Let's give 'MajorTim' some credit. At least he had the courtesy to cite his source at TP's blog!" ~~ Dave Dubya

I guess my berating him over plagerism and not citing sources finally got to him! ;-)

Dave Dubya said...

He sure taught us a lesson, didn't he?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Yeah, he sure did, didn't he? Not sure what it was, though.

Who do you think Timothy (the "5th", no less) hates more -- Robert Mueller or Jefferson's Guardian? ;-)

Dave Dubya said...

JG,
I have to just note the sweet irony and karma.

MajorTim offered a link to an unedited version of what he posted here, AFTER I showed a link to a site quoting and debunking it. He didn't need to direct us there. He could have just answered TB3's question.

He didn't.

He then went on to ad hominem taunts and false accusations: "Hey Dave, delete all you truth want, the truth is still out there and you are foolish man to deny it. Leftist censorship of anything they don't like...so typical, so normal for a group that want to ban so many things that our Constitution guarantees us."

Now the conundrum is this. Do I delete some truth he doesn't want us to know? He used to try to intimidate people by guessing their place of residence. Not cool. Indecent even. A hateful tactic.

Let's say we have his name and address that he unwittingly revealed. Funny as hell, isn't it? Even it it wasn't his name, it would still be stupid to reveal someone else's name if they didn't wish it, even if that person is the hateful dishonest author.

Maybe he really wants the attention now. His aggression has certainly been emboldened by Trump.

Come and get me JG, let's see who craps their pants.

If he crosses this line and becomes threatening, we know who to report.

For now, I will do the decent thing and "delete some truth", if only as a gesture of decency, with no expectation of reciprocation. Turning the other cheek, as it were.

I can always put it back up if he wants me to.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave, it wasn't until this morning that I actually realized Tim and "Chuck" are the same. I put a lot of thought into whether or not I should publish it, and after sitting on it for about an hour I decided I would.

I felt you should know, of course, and so pulled the trigger. I also wanted him to know, that I know, and that played into my decision.

If you didn't delete it, I would have -- but not before others, like TB3, Tim, Ex Con sevative, Jerry and others were able to be aware of the exposure.

Thank you for doing the right thing, which from you I wouldn't expect less. I mean no malice, just am hoping this has forever changed "Chuck".

Truly, I'm concerned why "Chuck" allowed himself to be exposed like he did. Was it a mistake?...or not? Truly hope he hasn't decided to leave "forever".

You're a good man, Mr. Dubya. Here's hoping "Chuck" can be too.

To you, and all your readership, have a safe and reflective Labor Day! I won't grill steaks, but I will grill the best Buffalo wings you've ever tasted! :-)

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Try this on for your Labor Day celebration...

"WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump said he would freeze the pay of federal workers next year, saying the nation can't afford the 2.1% raises that would have gone into effect without presidential action.

In a notice to Congress Thursday, Trump cited 'serious economic conditions' in cutting pay to civilian workers. 'We must maintain efforts to put our nation on a fiscally sustainable course, and federal agency budgets cannot sustain such increases,' Trump said.
" ~~ Greg Korte, USA Today, 8/31/2018

The cited "serious economic conditions" refers to the gigantic deficits created due to the tax cuts rolled out to the wealthy and corporations with the new law passed in December of last year.

Get ready...it's coming to all of America real soon.

Gee, Mr. President, just how were those tax cuts going to make America great again? I'm still waiting...

Ex Con servative said...

It's coming to all of America real soon...that was the plan all along.

Just wait, when the economy crashes(which it will), the right will find an effective way to blame the Democrats. It worked great in 2010. They blamed president Obama for not fixing the disaster he was handed soon enough.All the talk radio clowns were on the bandwagon, and pounded the point home to the not so smart.

Heck, they even rewrite history and accuse FDR's policies of extending the Great Depression. Wow.

We are going to pay a very serious long term price for embracing Reaganomics for almost 40 years. It's gonna hurt (and not so good.)

Dave Dubya said...

Fear not. Republican Jesus and his wealthy disciples love having all the extra cash. It will not only magically create millions of great paying factory jobs, but replenish the ground with clean, cheap, and abundant coal. The Orange Messiah is generously allowing more mercury to be spewed into our air to help burning that coal be more profitable too. If that's not making America great, I don't know what is.

We can trust Republicans. Look what they did for Flint's drinking water. The greatness rises!

Ex Con servative said...

I just watched the movie "Roger and Me" last night...caught it late while surfing. Supposedly the evil Michael Moore is a commie, and out to destroy America. Yet all his films contain nothing but actual footage of events and actual people being interviewed. Watch the movie to see when Flint started to slide into decay, and the attitudes that contributed to this. I love his movies by the way.

Ironically it's been proven that while tax cuts greatly benefit the wealthy, they actually hurt middle and lower class people.Employers hold back wages knowing that employees will have added take home pay from the cut. It ends up being a wash at best, yet the losses from cutting safety net programs, and the damage from the CEOs hoarding stock options instead of reinvesting in the company crush the poor and less fortunate. You know, the people that the real Jesus stood up for, not hedge fund Jesus.

I also happened to catch the wonderful Peter Popoff ministry show last night also. He's already been caught in the act, and proven to be a fraud, yet he's still on the air scamming people.

What would the REAL Jesus think of all this stuff? And why wouldn't somebody want some of "their money" to go to help the less fortunate, especially if they professed to be Christian? Dark times for sure.

Dave Dubya said...

Real wages are falling.

As the wealthy elites get more, the rest get less. No wonder Trump thinks the economy is great, (but not so great to pay federal employees).

The working people are serving the economy, rather than the economy serving the people.


https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/

Nominal wage growth has been far below target in the recovery

Workers’ share of corporate income hasn’t recovered



https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/08/10/america-wage-growth-is-getting-wiped-out-entirely-by-inflation/?utm_term=.8f380d28a2b0

Wage growth isn’t keeping up with inflation.

Rising prices have erased U.S. workers’ meager wage gains, the latest sign strong economic growth has not translated into greater prosperity for the middle and working classes.

Cost of living was up 2.9 percent from July 2017 to July 2018, the Labor Department reported Friday, an inflation rate that outstripped a 2.7 percent increase in wages over the same period. The average U.S. “real wage,” a federal measure of pay that takes inflation into account, fell to $10.76 an hour last month, 2 cents down from where it was a year ago.

The stagnation in pay defies U.S. growth, which has increased in the past year and topped 4 percent in the second quarter of 2018 — the highest rate since mid-2014.


This will only get worse with tariffs and corporate tax cuts. There aint no such thing as "trickle down" wealth. They are hoarding wealth and using tax cuts to buy up more stock and shares of the pie.

Meanwhile low-information Trump voters are the real losers, and they don't even know they've been played for gullible chumps and suckers.

Ex Con servative said...

I totally agree Dave. Trickle down was a lie from the get go.I would argue that the real world stats for people falling behind are much worse than the "official" stats.

To put it in perspective, $4.00 an hour in 1979 is the equivalent of $22.50 per hour today, according to a recent study. I believe it.

Our modern "capitalists" in this country look at everything and everybody as a way to make money. If I can make more, I'll do it, even if it means taking it away from you. Drain the government funds for your own benefit...it's all OK. It's a total, wholesale looting of everything and everybody, with no accountability. So much corruption and fraud.

A very wealthy German CEO was interviewed a while back by a Bloomberg reporter. The reporter grilled him on the high tax rate he pays...How can he stand it? His response: "I'd rather be a rich man in a nice country, than a super rich man in a poor country."

Imagine that, a CEO realizing when enough is enough, and actually thinking about others and his country....how strange!

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration -- I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations." ~~ "Anonymous", The New York Times, September 5, 2018

At least these latest revelations, by a high-level executive in this psychopath-led administration, offer some semblance of hope and salvation.

Invoke the 25th. It's time...past time.

25...25...25...25...25...25...25

Jefferson's Guardian said...

...and my hat's off to Senator Cory Booker for taking a stand today.

The revelations about Kavanaugh are becoming quite revealing...

...as was his squirming and hesitation when questioned by Senator Kamala Harris about possible conversations with a law firm representing Donald Trump regarding the Mueller probe and investigation.

Dave Dubya said...

Kavanaugh is a torture-loving, vote-suppressing, gerrymandering, corporate appeasing, far Right, anti-women's rights, anti-labor rights, slimy, partisan activist; chosen specifically for his fondness for the authoritarian "unitary executive" power and immunity of the presidency. (Only for Republicans, of course.)

In other words, the perfect con-servative activist judge.

Trump's destruction of our environment, institutions, the rule and law, and basic decency will bear fetid fruit for the poor generations to follow. The completely corrupt Party of Trump will go down in history as appeasers of a criminal president, and abettors of the worst abuses of presidential power in US history.

If this is not how history records our time, there will be no coming back.This country will finished.

Democracy is being smothered out of existence. The complete Triumph of the Right is nearly complete. Only a super-majority of voters can elect enough of the half crooked opposition party to check those abuses.

But the damage is already done.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Trump doubles down on 'treason' accusation after New York Times op-ed
At Montana rally, president hails Republican who assaulted Guardian reporter as fighter ‘in more ways than one’

Donald Trump on Thursday accused the New York Times of committing 'treason' after the paper published an opinion piece by an anonymous senior administration official who detailed a 'quiet resistance' working to rein in the president.

During a campaign appearance in Billings, Montana, Trump also praised Greg Gianforte, the Republican congressman who physically attacked the Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs last year, as 'a fighter and a winner'.
" ~~ Excerpt from The Guardian, September 6, 2018

The orange Hitler doppelganger is back at it again: (1) Making accusations of treason against the organization that prints his staff member's "anonymous" op-ed; and (2) Advocating and promoting violence against members of the press who stand up to or question Trumpism or his minions.

If Barak Obama, or any Democratic president from the past, were to have committed a fraction of the verbal attacks or slurs this psychopathic moron has, the majority in this country would have called for his head on a platter.

25...25...25...25...25...25...25...

Majormajor said...

"Senator Cory Booker for taking a stand today". Care to comment on his stand today?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Sure!

His protest against the Republican suppression of documents throughout this sham of a hearing.

The Government Of Putin is so disgusting. Such liars; such cheaters. Win at any cost. Horrible.

Majormajor said...

But he had the documents given to him before he made his "I am Spartacus" speech.

"Win at any cost", the lid calling the kettle black, or is that racist?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tim, they weren't available until after the hearing started on 9/4. That's a fact.

Yes, Tim, you're a racist. I'm still curious why you refuse to "come out" on that. You know you're dying to do it. Go ahead. Don't worry, we won't judge you...

...much! ;-)

Jefferson's Guardian said...

By the way, Timothy, how's life on the white settlement? A KKK gated-community, by chance?

LOL

Majormajor said...

"Yes, Tim, you're a racist." This from a person who guards a slave holding president.

Majormajor said...

JG, you already judge me due to a name of street/area. I fish the Black River in Missouri, does that mean I'm a racist?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"I fish the Black River in Missouri, does that mean I'm a racist? ~~ Majormajor (otherwise known as, Timothy)

Don't be silly, of course not. Both are unrelated and independent events.

Since it can be assumed many racists like to fish, it doesn't necessarily mean you aren't, though.

Do you eat blackened swordfish, or drive a black car, or own a black cat?

Same idea. I'm sure many racists do, but I'm just as sure most diversity-accepting decent people also do.

You've asked similar questions in the past, yet you request assurances once again. Why is that?

Before, you hadn't enrolled in community college yet, but now you're taking a logic course so should already know the answers. Is it still too early in the semester? ;-)

Majormajor said...

So my street name is a sign that I'm a racist, what a crock, like most of your posts.

Watching History channel looking for proof that 9-11 was an inside job, so far none.

Updates as they happen

Majormajor said...

So far History Channel saying nothing about 9-11 being an Inside Job...there's 10 minutes left in tonight, but not to worry, this program continues Tue 9-11, so there's always hope, right JG?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"So my street name is a sign that I'm a racist.." ~~ Majormajor (otherwise known as Timothy)

Oh, so that is your street name? Thanks for confirming!

No, of course it's not a "sign", but I'm guessing it's not a coincidence. ;-)


"Watching History channel looking for proof that 9-11 was an inside job..." ~~ Majormajor (otherwise known as Timothy)

Why would you even think the History Channel would step outside of the narrow lines made up by the 9/11 Commission? Do you really believe the History Channel would jeopardize corporate funding and sponsorship by exposing the real story?

No way!

Don't forget the "golden rule", Timothy -- those with the gold make the rules.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"So far History Channel saying nothing about 9-11 being an Inside Job." ~~ Majormajor (otherwise known as Timothy)

Timothy, you do realize the History Channel is owned by a consortium owned by the Walt Disney Companies, correct?

Is the Walt Disney Corporation in the business of truth-telling or making money?

I'll let you figure it out. In the meantime, are you familiar with books? Google it, then maybe buy a few. ;-)

Majormajor said...

During commercial break I found that the BBC (NOT DISNEY) debunked the Tower 7 conspiracy plot...It says Tower Seven had an unusual design, built over an electricity substation and a subway; there were many fires that burnt for hours; and crucially, fire fighters could not fight the fires in Tower 7, because they didn't have enough water and focused on saving lives.

Investigators have focused on the east side where the long floor spans were under most stress.

They think fires burnt long enough to weaken and break many of the connections that held the steel structure together.

Most susceptible were the thinner floor beams which required less fireproofing, and the connections between the beams and the columns. As they heated up the connections failed and the beams sagged and failed, investigators say.

The collapse of the first of the Twin Towers does not seem to have caused any serious damage to Tower Seven, but the second collapse of the 1,368ft (417m) North Tower threw debris at Tower Seven, just 350ft (106m) away.

Tower Seven came down at 5.21pm. Until now most of the photographs have been of the three sides of the building that did not show much obvious physical damage. Now new photos of the south side of the building, which crucially faced the North Tower, show that whole side damaged and engulfed in smoke."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7485331.stm#sa-link_location=story-body&intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fblogs-trending-42195513&intlink_ts=1536632486543-sa

Russia Russia Russia...drink.

Majormajor said...

OMG, I just saw the video of #7 coming down, and there was Dick Cheney running away after lighting a fuse to a BOMB proving without a doubt it was an inside job.

LOL Can't wait till tomorrow night's show, I'm sure there will be more.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"During commercial break I found that the BBC (NOT DISNEY) debunked the Tower 7 conspiracy plot... ~~ Majormajor (otherwise known as Timothy)

Timothy, I'm glad you switched from the cartoon version, although I hope you realize your chances of finding real scientific scrutiny isn't going to be found with the BBC. In many circles, probably most hoping to discover truth, the BBC equates to Fox News in this country.

If you're really interested in finding the facts about WTC7 -- and get down-and-dirty with all the investigative authorities and their analyses -- you'll have to indulge in some real book-reading. One-hour TV programs, or reports commemorating the event on the web today, aren't going to delve into the nuance and details so crucial to the understanding of the falling of this building.

You're going to immediately reject what I'm saying, because I know you Timothy, and you're going to delve deeper and more doggedly on the web searching for evidence to prove me wrong. I'm just saying, don't bother, and don't waste your time -- or mine.

Instead, go to your favorite online bookseller and buy this: The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7. The subtitle reads: Why the Final Report about 9/11 is Unscientific and False.

Once you've read this, come back at me. Until then, and as usual with you, you're just pissing in the wind.

Now keep in mind, this is a book, so stick with it and don't expect to be able to cheat with the CliffsNotes. You're really going to have to be less Trump-like and actually read. Can you do this? ;-)

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timothy, I realize you're an advocate and believer of the government's conspiracy theory, which is really all it is since the 9/11 Commission Report didn't actually provide evidence or proof.

The Commission only supplied their own full-of-holes "theory" -- designed to appease the critics that an investigation needed to be conducted. As late as it took to initiate, the official account only served to create more questions than it answered.

You go ahead and embrace your own conspiracy theory, and I'll stick to mine -- which is more logical and based upon physical possibilities and withstands scientific scrutiny.

I realize logical discourse and understanding doesn't appeal to your very narrow and simplistic worldview. That's very evident in the years I've had the displeasure in knowing you.

Fantasy doesn't fit within my explanation of how and why the universe reveals itself. I know this isn't the case with you.

Enjoy watching all the conspiracy theories presented on the History Channel today. While you're at it, be sure to read how Jesus walked on water and created loaves of bread from thin-air to feed the multitudes. ;-)

The impossibility of them all occurring could only be miraculous, indeed!

Majormajor said...

"real book" like the Steele dossier?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timothy, does everything in life -- normally known to rational and thinking people -- need to be defined for you?

Apparently so.

While you're at it, buy a dictionary.

Majormajor said...

"rational and thinking people" This from the guy who thinks 9-11-2001 was an inside job, but 9-11-2012 wasn't.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"...but 9-11-2012 wasn't." Majormajor (otherwise known as Timothy)

Mr. Trueblood, you're going to have to provide some background on this date in 2012. Otherwise, no

Of course, "the other 9/11", the one in 1973, definitely was an inside job.

Don't you agree?

Majormajor said...

Sorry that went over your head, not surprised though.

Benghazi
City in Libya

But you knew that.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

No, actually didn't know that. Truly.

Why? It was inconsequential. It was a made-up event by the right. I honestly never read more than one article about it, and don't even think I bothered to finish it.

Timothy, it never interested me or came across my radar. Again, in my mind, it was a non-event created by the right.

Were you aware of 9/11/1973?

Didn't think so.

Majormajor said...

SUSPECT TRIES STABBING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WITH SWITCHBLADE...
CAMPAIGN SIGN USED TO FEND OFF...
COPS: CURSED PRESIDENT BEFORE VIOLENCE...
MASS SHOOTING TWEET THREATENS TRUMP HOTEL EVENT...
Secret Service probes actress calling for assassination...
WYOMING GOP OFFICE SET ON FIRE...
Conservative Columnist Goes Into Hiding After Rape, Death Threats...
SCALISE WARNS: LEFT INCITING...

Majormajor said...

"Why? It was inconsequential. It was a made-up event by the right. I honestly never read more than one article about it, and don't even think I bothered to finish it."

Well JG that statement explains a lot. Would you like to provide you with link of the news of the day that you may be missing?

Here's one that might interest you, if you bother to read it. From the Washington Post, I'm pretty sure it's not a "made-up event by the right".

Middle-class income hit an all-time high of $61,372 last year, U.S. Census Bureau says.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/12/middle-class-income-hit-an-all-time-high-last-year-us-census-says/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.79bff55a4673

It's strange that you would find reports of our ambassador being murdered "never interested me or came across my radar." Maybe if Russia had been involved you would've pay attention.

Don't you think so?

Majormajor said...

Oh JG in regards to 9/11/73, you might "enjoy" this take on the events of that day, if you're interested.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/does_the_new_york_times_have_a_guilty_venezuela_conscience.html

Majormajor said...

Any bet that JG will read this?

U.S. incomes rise as poverty rate declines in 2017

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The median U.S. household income rose for a third straight year in 2017 and the poverty rate declined further, government data showed on Wednesday.

Unemployment at record lows for ALL races.

Middle-class income hit at all-time high of $61,372 last year, U.S. Census Bureau says.

And some claim we need socialism?

Why, capitalism seems to be doing quite well, thank you.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

I'm sorry, Timmy, but as I've mentioned to you on several occasions, I will not read any materials unless you're willing to provide a hyperlink.

But you already knew this.

Majormajor said...

I agree with JG, you are sorry. Stay in the dark, see if I care.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Why, seems to be doing quite well..." ~~ Majormajor (aka dreaming Timothy)

"The elites cook statistics to lie about a recovery from the 2008 global financial crash. To gather unemployment statistics, for example, government agents ask people two questions: Are you working? If they answer 'yes' they are counted as employed even if they have a temporary job in which they work only an hour a week. If they say 'no' they are asked if they have been looking for work. If they have not looked for work in the last four weeks they are magically erased from the unemployment rolls. And then there is the long list of those not counted as unemployed, such as prisoners, the retired, stay-at-home spouses and high school and college students who want jobs. Alternative facts did not begin with Donald Trump.

'You don’t have to be a statistical genius to understand that over the last 10 years, a significant number of people gave up looking because it’s too disgusting,' Wolff said. 'The jobs they were offered were inferior to what they had before or so insecure that it made their family life impossible. They went back to school, went into the illegal economy or began to live off their friends, relatives and neighbors.'

'The quality of the jobs, the security, the benefits and the impact on physical and mental health have been cascading downward as the wages remain stagnant,' he went on. 'We’re not in a recovery. We’re in an ongoing decline, which, by the way, is why Mr. Trump got elected. This is happening to capitalism in Western Europe, Japan and the United States. This is why an angry working class is looking for ways to express and change its circumstances.'
" ~~ excerpt from Becoming Serfs by Chris Hedges, Truthdig, August 26, 2018

You're, like way too many in America, being played for a fool. It's a rigged game, and those being suckered to play are allowing it to happen. Wake up, Timmy. Wake up.

Of course, what would you know? You're sitting on your fat ass on White Settlement, collecting disability, Medicaid, Medicare, possibly a military pension, and thumbing your nose at those trying to find some safety-net that will keep them from being forced to live on the streets. But you don't care. You've got yours. F#@k everybody else. Right Timmy?

You're a hypocrite and a fraud.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Stay in the dark, see if I care." ~~ Majormajor (otherwise known as Timmy, the mushroom-man)

Timmy, why would I want to waste my time reading made-up stories by the alt-right and conservative reactionary base?

Don't forget, Timmy, you're the poster-boy for being in the dark and fed a continual diet of bullshit. You wouldn't recognize truth and reality if it slapped you along the face. You're totally oblivious.

When you have some real news to share, get back with me. Until then, don't bother me with your cut-and-paste tirades.

Majormajor said...

With your own words you stated you stop reading the reports on Benghazi, must not have been hyperlinked for you...only YOU know the truth. Authoritarianism at it's best, and the best example yet how the left thinks they know whats best for everyone. Oh and by the way, stay employed, I need YOUR money going into Social Security so I can have it now. Hope there's something left when you get retire. LOL ;) snicker.

"don't bother me with your cut-and-paste tirades" says the man who just C&P a tirade and calls me a fraud and hypocrite..
You are a deranged leftist.

p.s. what is it about my "ass" that so attracts you?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timmy,I apologize! I completely forgot to mention Social Security!

So you're pulling from Medicaid, Medicare, possibly a military pension AND Social Security!

As I said, a fraud and a hypocrite. The poster-boy against socialism is drawing from, and surviving because of, the so-called welfare state! If that doesn't beat all!

Scoot along, my small-minded friend, and go post your inane ridiculousness on T. Paine's Saving Common Nonsense. While you're at it, go cry to Mr. Paine about how mean I am toward you. LOL

Boo hoo hoo. You're such a sissy, Timmy. LOL

Oh, yes, Timmy. You're totally correct. Only I know the truth. ;-) Never forget that.

Dave Dubya said...

I don't think Majormajor wants anyone to understand what "median" means. It's not the average.

When the elites wealth skyrockets like it has, the median will go up, but it does not reflect the average, which is slipping behind the rate of inflation.

But as we know, when only the rich get richer, that is what really matters to the Party of Trump.

Majormajor said...

This is the only answer you socialist need. If the guardian of Jefferson owning slaves president can C&P so can I.


One week after Jim Carrey suggested we "say yes to socialism," a Venezuelan journalist is speaking out against the actor's suggestion.

“We have to say yes to socialism — to the word and everything,” Carrey, who’s among the richest in Hollywood, said last week on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher” show. “We have to stop apologizing.”

In an article published in the Venezuelan outlet Runrunes, columnist Laureano Márquez argued that socialism is the root cause of the country's current state of crisis.

"Dear Jim, I admire you a lot, but sometimes it seems that the inability of Hollywood stars to understand politics is directly proportional to their talent," Marquez began his column.

"I read that...you said: 'We have to say yes to socialism, to the word [‘socialism’] and to everything.' Perhaps for you, as for all humanity, the word 'socialism' sounds beautiful," he continued.

The journalist then went on to explain that while many define socialism as "the antithesis of selfishness, synonym of concern for others...support for the weakest and their needs, of seeking health and education for all," in reality Marquez believes socialism today has "deep threats."

"[In] Venezuela, what we find is just that our regime is not – for God’s sake – the antithesis of selfishness," he wrote Wednesday. "In Venezuela, dear Jim, from what I have just told you, there is no equitable distribution of wealth; wealth is concentrated, as rarely before in our history, in very few hands."

Marquez explained that people in Venezuela are "at God's mercy" and are fleeing the country "however way they can" as they do not have access to medication, food or other basic needs.

"[This is] a tragedy that is compounded by the denial of a regime that claims that the population has never been better."

By Sasha Savitsky

Median income is the amount that divides the income distribution into two EQUAL groups, half having income above that amount, and half having income below that amount. Mean income (average) is the amount obtained by dividing the total aggregate income of a group by the number of units in that group. So now the socialists are changing the goal posts.. Was the median income under THE ONE higher or lower?

A new report shows that the median household income has climbed 3% since President Trump took office. In April 2018 $61,483, in January 2017 $$59,471.

Of course JG will not read this or believe it if he does, because it is right wing fake news, propaganda. LOL.

Majormajor said...

"only the rich get richer" Prove that.

"the average" What is it?

average income "slipping behind the rate of inflation". Prove that.

Now if more Americas are now working in our history and fewer are on unemployment than in decades and food stamp applications are down to a record low, are you saying that being on unemployment and food stamps provides more income than a job?





Jefferson's Guardian said...

Manafort cops a plea deal in exchange for spilling the beans.

The unindicted co-conspirator mobster-in-chief must feel the walls closing in on him. I bet he doesn't think Manafort's a "great guy" now.LOL

Ya gotta love it! If ya' don't, it means you're a proponent and advocate of organized crime. There's no other explanation.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Now if more Americas [sp] are now working in our history... ~~ Timothy L. T.

Please provide source. Actually, forget about it. It's really a meaningless statistic unless it can be placed into context (i.e., as a percentage of the total desiring work).


"...and fewer are on unemployment..." ~~ Timothy L. T.

Do you mean as opposed to those who've given up searching for meaningful and sustaining work?

Majormajor said...

JG,

Why bother giving sources or proof to you? Your head's fixed in stone. There's no other explanation.
Anyway, I was responding to Dave and as usual, you jump in. I swear you two are connected at the key board.

BTW, if you haven't figured it out yet the use of my name doesn't bother me one bit. So have at it.

Majormajor said...


In an interview with Hugh Hewitt on Friday, Bob Woodward said that in his two years of investigating for his new book, 'Fear,' he found no evidence of collusion or espionage between Trump and Russia. Woodward said he looked for it "hard" and yet turned up nothing.

"So let’s set aside the Comey firing, which as a Constitutional law professor, no one will ever persuade me can be obstruction. And Rod Rosenstein has laid out reasons why even if those weren’t the president’s reasons. Set aside the Comey firing. Did you, Bob Woodward, hear anything in your research in your interviews that sounded like espionage or collusion?" Hugh Hewitt asked Woodward.

"I did not, and of course, I looked for it, looked for it hard," Woodward answered. "And so you know, there we are. We’re going to see what Mueller has, and Dowd may be right. He has something that Dowd and the president don’t know about, a secret witness or somebody who has changed their testimony. As you know, that often happens, and that can break open or turn a case."

"But you’ve seen no collusion?" Hewitt asked again to confirm.

"I have not," Woodward affirmed.

By Ian Schwartz
September 14, 2018

What will the enraged radical left bring up next? Armed insurrection.

Dave Dubya said...



So Hewitt’s opinion has clout with Majormajor?

Hewitt said that Trump did not possess "the temperament to be president". He ought to know, he’s a “Constitutional law professor”.

Must be “fake news”, amirite? Of course, Woodward has no authority to subpoena and to get answers under sworn oath. But he DID get a lot of disturbing information that MM would love to deflect our attention from.

Woodward is a journalist and reports the facts. He didn't research or witness the Trump Tower meeting, so he didn't "see collusion" there. Woodward also didn’t see money laundering and ties to the Russian mob in Trump Tower.

But somebody is investigating it.

"We’re going to see what Mueller has, and Dowd may be right," Woodward said. "He has something that Dowd and the president don’t know about, a secret witness or somebody who has changed their testimony. As you know, that often happens, and that can break open or turn a case."

What are the chances Manifort "saw collusion"?

And there’s this:

“And so what’s the, what is one of the realities of the Trump presidency? There’s a war on truth. We see it now in his statements about Puerto Rico.”

Trump refuses to acknowledge the deaths resulting from Hurricane Maria was far more than twenty.

“No collusion, no collusion” is just part of the war on truth.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timmy, the fact remains...the investigation must continue until all the facts are gathered, sorted through and analyzed. As long as the rule of law prevails over the "witch-hunt" claims of the investigated, I'm totally on board.

Aren't you?

Mobsters are very astute and clever when covering their tracks. I'm sure "The Don" learned well. Let's hope our law enforcement and intelligence communities are smarter.

P.S. Thanks for the confirmation that Timothy L. Trueblood V (the fifth!...or maybe you're only the fourth) is your given and real name. What does the "L" initial stand for? Lucy? ;-)

Majormajor said...

You two are hopeless.

Anytime you want to talk face to face about my name JG you know where I live. Be a man and come on out and we can talk. Until then, what you have to say is drivel.

But you know that, don't you.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"You two are hopeless." ~~ Timmy Trueblood

Why's that Timmy?... because Dave and I, and every other rational and democracy-loving person, respects and supports the rule of law?... and you don't? You're more into the Russian mobster-in-chief motif? ;-)


"Anytime you want to talk face to face about my name JG you know where I live. Be a man and come on out and we can talk. Until then, what you have to say is drivel." ~~ Timmy Trueblood

Ohhhhhh, the Texas cowboy tough guy! LOLOL

Timmy, thanks for the invitation but I try to avoid Texas anytime I can. I'm really not fond of stupid rednecks wearing cowboy hats and boots. As a matter of fact, I avoid connecting through DFW for these and many other reasons.

So, is Lucy your middle name...or not?

Majormajor said...

More JG Drivel.

JG, you are afraid to talk face to face, but you already knew that, didn't you.

Dave Dubya said...

While honesty was never his defining characteristic, Majormajor's beloved leader is the latest trigger to his ill-informed rage.

Washington Post fact-checkers note:

The president of the United States has surpassed 5,000 false or misleading claims since his inauguration on Jan. 20, 2017. It’s an incredible feat of serial mendacity. Never in history have there been so many dead cherry trees in the land of Washington.

To be precise, that’s 5,001 claims in 601 days, according to The Fact Checker’s database tracking and analyzing all of Trump’s suspect statements.

This stream of falsehoods and misdirections has become a defining feature of the Trump presidency. Untruths are a staple of the president’s speeches, interviews and tweets, Cabinet meetings, bilateral summits and news conferences, bill signings, video messages and campaign rallies. Sometimes he makes false claims because he’s confusing his talking points on the economy; sometimes he tells demonstrable lies about his alleged affairs. And as time has gone by, Trump has only increased his rate of making false or misleading claims.

The average over Trump’s presidency is 8.3 claims a day. But in the nine days after Labor Day, his rate was nearly four times higher: 32 per day.


What can we say about all the fools, dupes, rubes, racists, and low-information conservatives who buy into the lies of Putin's Puppet?

One thing certain is the "very strong" Putin LOVES his legions of Junior Puppets. He feeds from their ignorance, resentments, anger, and hate.

Make Russia great again through Kompromat, Komrads!

Majormajor said...

Protest march in straight jackets against Trump ends in chaos as participants try but fail to free themselves.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"JG, you are afraid to talk face to face..." ~~ Timmy Trueblood

Nope, not me, pilgrim. We'll face off, on Main Street, at high noon! Don't be yella' and not show up, 'cause I'll hunt ya' down. LOLOL

Wear your spurs and cowboy hat, and a sign saying "asshole". I wanna make sure it's you. ;-)

Majormajor said...

What do JG and ANTI-FA have in common, both are cowards and hide behind masks and false names.

You know where I live JG, when are you going to join me in a little face to face, man to man conversion about my name? Be sure to wear your white feather where it can be seen by all. You, like all leftist, are cowards, but you knew that already, didn't you.

Time for you to put up or shut up, bitch.

P.S. what is it about my rear end that so turns you on?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timmy, you're a real sick motherf#@ker, aren't you?

Are you sure you're not mad that I exposed you for the fraud that you are? ;-)

Oh, Timmy, "hope springs eternal". Now, run along and go cry to Mr. Paine about how I've been "mean" to you.

Majormajor said...

Well JG, give me your real name and address and I'll come to you and we can have a man to man, face to face conversation about my name. Unless of course you are the gutless, coward ANTI-FA socialist I know you are.

For over 8 years you have been posting your socialist drivel. Now it's time to put up or shut up.

Or YOU can stop this sh$t about my name, and my rear end that you seem so interested in.


You're a coward, but you know that. Bitch.

Dave Dubya said...

Now, now.

Who could have imagined a loyal Trump supporting "Christian" being more hateful than an "Anti-fa socialist"? I remember when Christians were opposed to Nazis and fascists and racists. Now they seem to embrace them as very fine people, in mutual hate for Democrats and democratic socialists.

And there's this: Conservatives have told us Nazis are socialists. If that is true, why are "Anti-fa socialists" anti Nazi?

So confusing. Maybe someone is unaware of being very ill-informed?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timmy, you're not really in any kind of bargaining position. Now here's the only deal I'm going to make with you...

You leave this blog and never return, and that means never returning under any moniker or pseudonym, either already known or newly created. You'll be allowed just one more comment, and I'll let you know what you'll be expected to say.

Additionally, these same terms and conditions will apply to Tom Degan's The Rant.

But, that's not all. As previously mentioned, with both of these fine gentlemen you'll be expected to offer an apology. This apology will begin with admitting that you searched out and camped on their blogs specifically for trolling purposes. Then, you'll say you're sorry for being the asshole nuisance and disruption that you've been -- and will never be again because you're going to explain why. That meaning you'll never return again. Ever.

These are my conditions, and believe me they're not negotiable.

If you believe I'm playing with you, Timmy, or bluffing in any way, you better think about what I'm offering. Consider my offer, and mull it over with as much time as you need, because the next stage of revelations could be very, very embarrassing -- and you know what I'm talking about.

It's your choice, Timmy.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"And there's this: Conservatives have told us Nazis are socialists. If that is true, why are 'Anti-fa socialists' anti Nazi?" ~~ Dave Dubya

You pose some very good questions, Dave. Unanswerable, of course, because the racist alt-right white supremacists have totally redefined words and terms to fit their own strange and irrational pretzel-logic.

These are "Bizarro World" times, for sure -- and Donald Trump is responsible for ushering it in.

Dave Dubya said...

Trump is the symptom, not the disease. The Right has always been waging war on decency, equality, truth and democracy. Trump is the fetid fruit of the Republican Party, FOX, Limbaugh and hate radio. Their hate, greed, dishonesty, and corruption have fatally rotted out our nation's core values.

They win. This is what they call "great", while Putin laughs and democracy weeps.

Dave Dubya said...

JG,
Now it's his anger and rage being stoked. Just what he wants to do to us by trolling. Ironic, isn't it?

Majormajor is still welcome to comment on the topic at hand, but we know it will always degenerate into personal attacks, lies and hate. He follows the Authoritarian Rules and Tactics of Discourse as closely as he believes we follow their fantasy "Alinsky tactics".

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Yes, agreed, Trump is the symptom of a terrible disease that first started becoming noticeable with Ronald Reagan's presidency. The symptoms have grown more noticeable and hideous since.

One of those symptoms has been the overt and purposeful display of racism and intolerance of people of color and other minorities, while the disease attacking our democratic institutions and freedoms of choice and expression have continued to go unheeded -- ironically, by those most affected by the attacks.

As I've said on several occasions, the Donald Trump slogan of making "America great again" has done nothing but make America "grate" again.

Dave Dubya said...

Too bad she didn't say this two years ago. Hillary writes this is the Atlantic.

"Over many years, our defenses were worn down by a small group of right-wing billionaires—people like the Mercer family and Charles and David Koch—who spent a lot of time and money building an alternative reality where science is denied, lies masquerade as truth, and paranoia flourishes. By undermining the common factual framework that allows a free people to deliberate together and make the important decisions of self-governance, they opened the way for the infection of Russian propaganda and Trumpian lies to take hold. They've used their money and influence to capture our political system, impose a right-wing agenda, and disenfranchise millions of Americans.

There is a tendency, when talking about these things, to wring our hands about “both sides.” But the truth is that this is not a symmetrical problem. We should be clear about this: The increasing radicalism and irresponsibility of the Republican Party, including decades of demeaning government, demonizing Democrats, and debasing norms, is what gave us Donald Trump.Whether it was abusing the filibuster and stealing a Supreme Court seat, gerrymandering congressional districts to disenfranchise African Americans, or muzzling government climate scientists, Republicans were undermining American democracy long before Trump made it to the Oval Office.

Now we must do all we can to save our democracy and heal our body politic."


If only she and her husband figured this out, or cared, back in the '90s..

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Now it's his anger and rage being stoked. Just what he wants to do to us by trolling. Ironic, isn't it?" ~~ Dave Dubya

Dave, the irony is inescapable. Now it's laughable. The troll's been trolled, and it pisses him off. And to think...he created his own, very uncomfortable, circumstances by his incessant hate and anger...and overt carelessness. Going off half-cocked has a very negative downside. Timmy's realizing this now.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

"Too bad she didn't say this two years ago." ~~ Dave Dubya

and...

"If only she and her husband figured this out, or cared, back in the '90s. ~~ Dave Dubya

The Clintons have always been the consummate corporatists. They're as much to blame for the precarious situation we find ourselves in at this time.

Her "outing" in the article piece you cited is too little, and way too late. She was never the solution, just as Donald Trump most assuredly hasn't been.

Democracy...our whole way of life, is now between a rock and a hard place. And to think the descent all started with the election of Ronald Reagan. The train keeps speeding faster and faster toward the abyss...and we're all on it.

An aside...the woman who made the allegation of Kavanaugh's attack and attempt of rape has come forward. Any respectable Republican would now deny voting him onto the highest court of the land, but of course we know there are none.

We've now descended into a banana republic-like nation where mobsters are elected president, and judges are likely rapists.

Bizarro World, indeed. The bar has been set so low that it's laying on the ground.

Majormajor said...

"Majormajor is still welcome to comment on the topic at hand".

What is the topic the hand?
Calling me "a real sick motherf#@ker,"? Or a "p^ssy"? Is that the topic?
JG refusing to meet me face to face, man to man at my location or his to discuss my name? Is that the topic at hand?
JG attempting to blackmail me into silence, is that the topic at hand?

Dave, you and JG go back more than few years. Eight to ten by my count. Is he really the coward he is showing himself to be here? Is he really all mouth and no trousers?

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timmy, I've made an overture of conditions and it appears you're not accepting.

Am I correct?...or mistaken? Please advise.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Timmy, I'm waiting for your answer...

Majormajor said...

You and Dave better work your differences out, he says I'm welcome here, as you are to my home. He owns this blog, not you, if he says don't post here, I will not. Just as you have not posted on Rain's blog when asked not to. It's is Dave's responsibility to decide if what you post about me here is what he wants and feels comfortable with as well as dealing with the ramifications of your post.

Jefferson's Guardian said...

Alright, Timmy, I'll accept this as your decision.

By the way, I've never been asked not to visit or post comments to Rain's blog. You made this same comment some time ago, which I ignored since I assumed you mistakenly meant someone else. Now you've repeated it.

For your information, I never knowingly have commented on her blog, and nor have I cared to comment on her blog. I followed her to her blog, once, and saw you've placed several comments. I don't recall seeing comments by Dave Dubya, nor did I see any comments by T. Paine.

Once again, you're either mistaken or you're intentionally lying. I suspect the latter.

Nonetheless, you've made your decision. So have I.

Dave Dubya said...

Majormajor,

Relax. Nobody here is going to hurt you. We are not thugs. We don't carry tiki torches, Glocks, and AR-15s in public. You're just being trolled. Imagine that.

Although one certain president bragged he could shoot someone and not lose support. Hmm. Sounds like a real thug to me.

Liberals are not like him, thankfully.

Majormajor said...

I agree liberals aren't but leftist, they are.

Dave are you calling JG"S bluff?

TB3 said...

You think a Troll's skin would be a little thicker after years of trolling. Who knew? I guess each Troll is unique. Delicate, almost. Like a snowflake.

Majormajor said...

Dave, just a footnote.

JG has asked me questions about my name and has show an interest in my rear end. In order to satisfy both his "curiosities" I've offered to meet JG face to face, man to man to discuss. I've offer to go to him if he provides me his name and address to discuss his questions. He has refused both offers. Remember this the next time he claims I don't answer HIS questions. He is lying.

It is not I who is delicate, it is JG. I'm willing to meet him face, not him. He is the coward. It is JG who has admitted he only posts on blogs to stir up trouble, like a coward he hides and threatens. So who is the Troll when JG admits to what he has?

I offer JG this for his consideration. I have family in your area who work in US Intelligence. It wouldn't be a stretch for them to give me the info that I have asked of you.

Cheers ;)

Dave Dubya said...

Majormajor,

Yes, JG has been nothing but trouble for a long time. Sometimes I wonder who's been chasing whom's ass at this point.

I have to admit you score bigly for nailing his ass this time.

He should be deeply flattered by your threat to wield the dark power of the "Deep State" in his direction. He would be sharing the same honor as your leader. They would be fellow victims of the dirty politics of US Intelligence! Praise Putin! How's that for ironic?

Then it would be JG's turn to whine, "Not fair! Big Hoax! Rigged!"

"So who is the Troll when JG admits to what he has?"

Depends. As I see it, in a roomful of trolls, most won't admit to it. I dare say, some of us may dabble in what may constitute a style of trolling. In our own particular ways.

Except for you, of course, since you won't admit to it.

That means you WIN!

It's no wonder "Strongly deny it" is the new motto of the Party of Trump.

Works every time, amirite?

Majormajor said...

Please note Dave, the posts from JG threatening me before you attempt to paint me with his dirty paint brush.

Cheers ;)

p.s. Do you now believe in the "Deep State"?

TB3 said...

Womp Womp.

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