Wednesday, November 9, 2016

America At Bat

Reagan, Strike One.

Bush Senior, Clinton, Ball One.

Bush Jr, Strike Two.

Obama, Ball Two.

Trump, Strike Three.

23 comments:

T. Paine said...

Hmmm... close, Buddy!

Actual score:

Carter - Strike 1

Reagan - Home Run

Bush Sr - Ball 1

Clinton - Strike 2

Bush Jr - Strike 3 and first out

Obama - 2nd out (and double the national debt of all previous 43 presidents combined)

Trump - 3rd out and game called on account of rain caused by non-existent anthropogenic climate change.

Time to switch to basketball, I suppose.

ArchieBunkerNYC said...

Dave,

It sure was fun watching Chris Mathews, Rachel Maddow, Martha Raddatz, Jake Tapper, Wolf Blitzer and all the other progressive lapdogs go into shock as Trump began knocking off the swing states last night!

The People of America have spoken and Progressivism is breathing its last gasps of air.

Have you and Jefferson thought about moving to a more suitable country like Cuba? I'd like to see Bernie go there with you guys and turn it into a socialist paradise, but now that he has been thrown a large bag of hush money and has become a 1 percenter, I don't think he gives a shit anymore about socialism. Yeah Dave even Bernie won't be giving all his new found wealth to charities but is greedy like the Clintons. amirite?


Dave Dubya said...

TP,
Anyway you score it, the game is lost. The Russians are cheering, and the Chinese are laughing at our "Triumph of Democracy". Imagine that.

For liberals, America entered its death spiral with the Republican coup in 2000. Now the rest of the country and world may soon witness Trump crashing America in all its glory.

Arch,

I appreciate you mentioning the people of America have spoken. They did. And they did so for Hillary MORE than for Trump. By number of voters, Hillary was America's choice. Sorry, no moral majority for you!

Once again proving the Republicans can't win a simple majority.

Soon enough their tax cuts for the rich, corruption, dangerous deregulation, brutal law enforcement, torture, and reckless foreign policy will take us back to more wars, Depression, or far worse this time.

That's what it usually means when Republicans "take their country back". We can only imagine the devastation they'll leave this time.

Now if you can't discuss without getting personal, you'll have to go back to the bar.

Majormajor said...

Sorry liberals, Canada doesn't want you


Bad news for anyone looking to relocate to our neighbor to the north after last night’s election results: Canada doesn’t want you.

After Americans—and especially American celebrities—began considering making good on their promises to “move to Canada” in the wake of Donald Trump election victory, Canadians took to Twitter to warn Americans that they’d best stay where they are.

Only one problem with all these crazy liberals and celebrities wanting to move to Canada now…we don't want you #suckstosuck

— Patrick Stuart (@patstuart08) November 9, 2016

They’re even talking about building their own wall—to keep immigrants from American out of their pristine cities and away from their mounted law enforcement, gravy and cheese covered French fries, superior hockey coverage and French Sesame Street


'Soon enough their tax cuts for the rich, corruption, dangerous deregulation, brutal law enforcement, torture, and reckless foreign policy will take us back to more wars, Depression, or far worse this time.'

You forgot about the baby seal killing

Dave Dubya said...

'Soon enough their tax cuts for the rich, corruption, dangerous deregulation, brutal law enforcement, torture, and reckless foreign policy will take us back to more wars, Depression, or far worse this time.'

Thanks for quoting an important point.

"You forgot about the baby seal killing"

That would be Canadians, eh?

Majormajor said...

Gee Dave, are you blind to the past 8 years how the "reckless foreign policy will take us back to more wars"?

Are you ignorant of the failed Obama recover?

Are you unaware of Trumps tax policy of tax cuts for the middle class, not the wealthy?

Are you so closed minded to not see the BLM movement and your claim of "brutal law enforcement" have no connection to reality?

Torture,what the heck are you talking about?

"Corruption", you must mean the Clintons and the DNC.

Are you unaware of the violent protests, anti Democracy protests taking place by those radical lefty's in response to the Trump victory?

Do you remember the hate filled, law breaking right doing the same after Obama was elected?

Of course you may be choosing to ignore these reality's, and cut and paste from your prior hate filled posts out of habit.

Do you believe groups of people should vote for in best interest unless they are white?

Do you believe Obamacare is a success?

Do you believe we should have open borders?

If you do, then I can see why you are upset with the election results.

Dave Dubya said...

Ah, the scattered rhetorical questions.

While I'm not upset, or blind and ignorant as you are, you need to understand what the last Republican president left for us.

I have just one question for you.

Do YOU remember 8 years ago and the war that spawned ISIS? You have never shown memory of that.

Protesters see more of the same coming from ANOTHER Republican who got LESS VOTES than the Democrat.

They just haven't learned the Right Way to protest, and seize a federal building by threat of arms.

Amirite?



Majormajor said...

No Dave not scattered but questions you steadfastly refuse to answer because to do so would expose your true colors.


The fact is when Obama withdrew our forces from Iraq, ISIS was formed in the vacuum created. Something else you just can't seem to get your head around, Obama was the Commander in Chief.

As for the election, violent protest is the hallmark of liberal anarchy, and an attack on our democracy and our Constitution. While talking about the vote, does MI allow felon in jail/prison to vote? In VA, their Governor, a BBF of the Clintons, allowed 60,000 felons to this past Tuesday. Check and see by how many Votes HRC defeated Trump.

Ok Dave, Ive answered your one question, whats your excuse this time in not answering mine?

Are you ignorant of the failed Obama recover?

Are you unaware of Trumps tax policy of tax cuts for the middle class, not the wealthy?

Are you so closed minded to not see the BLM movement and your claim of "brutal law enforcement" have no connection to reality?

Torture,what the heck are you talking about?

"Corruption", you must mean the Clintons and the DNC.

Are you unaware of the violent protests, anti Democracy protests taking place by those radical lefty's in response to the Trump victory?

Do you remember the hate filled, law breaking right doing the same after Obama was elected?

Of course you may be choosing to ignore these reality's, and cut and paste from your prior hate filled posts out of habit.

Do you believe groups of people should vote for in best interest unless they are white?

Do you believe Obamacare is a success?

Do you believe we should have open borders?

If you do, then I can see why you are upset with the election results.

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck,

Don't expect to copy and run your list of demands and questions. It is a waste of space and will be spam next time.

Now to your damn lie.

The fact is when Obama withdrew our forces from Iraq, ISIS was formed

I said it was Bush's war that spawned ISIS and that is the fact.


The roots of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham

The roots of ISIS go back to Oct. 15, 2006, when what is known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) was established. That groups was formed by uniting several groups, most notably al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Mujahedeen Shura Council in Iraq, and Jund al-Sahhaba [Soldiers of the Prophet’s Companions].


http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/tr/security/2013/11/syria-islamic-state-iraq-sham-growth.html

If you tell this lie again it will be deleted as spam.

Thank you.

Majormajor said...


Simply replace journalist with liberal.

'The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.

It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.

This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.


So much for that. The audience for our glib analysis and contempt for much of the electorate, it turned out, was rather limited. This was particularly true when it came to voters, the ones who turned out by the millions to deliver not only a rebuke to the political system but also the people who cover it. Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.

And can you blame them? Journalists love mocking Trump supporters. We insult their appearances. We dismiss them as racists and sexists. We emote on Twitter about how this or that comment or policy makes us feel one way or the other, and yet we reject their feelings as invalid.

It’s a profound failure of empathy in the service of endless posturing. There’s been some sympathy from the press, sure: the dispatches from “heroin country” that read like reports from colonial administrators checking in on the natives. But much of that starts from the assumption that Trump voters are backward, and that it’s our duty to catalogue and ultimately reverse that backwardness. What can we do to get these people to stop worshiping their false god and accept our gospel?"

Part 1

Majormajor said...

Part 2

We diagnose them as racists in the way Dark Age clerics confused medical problems with demonic possession. Journalists, at our worst, see ourselves as a priestly caste. We believe we not only have access to the indisputable facts, but also a greater truth, a system of beliefs divined from an advanced understanding of justice.

You’d think that Trump’s victory – the one we all discounted too far in advance – would lead to a certain newfound humility in the political press. But of course that’s not how it works. To us, speaking broadly, our diagnosis was still basically correct. The demons were just stronger than we realized.

This is all a “whitelash,” you see. Trump voters are racist and sexist, so there must be more racists and sexists than we realized. Tuesday night’s outcome was not a logic-driven rejection of a deeply flawed candidate named Clinton; no, it was a primal scream against fairness, equality, and progress. Let the new tantrums commence!

That’s the fantasy, the idea that if we mock them enough, call them racist enough, they’ll eventually shut up and get in line. It’s similar to how media Twitter works, a system where people who dissent from the proper framing of a story are attacked by mobs of smugly incredulous pundits. Journalists exist primarily in a world where people can get shouted down and disappear, which informs our attitudes toward all disagreement.

Journalists increasingly don’t even believe in the possibility of reasoned disagreement, and as such ascribe cynical motives to those who think about things a different way. We see this in the ongoing veneration of “facts,” the ones peddled by explainer websites and data journalists who believe themselves to be curiously post-ideological.

That the explainers and data journalists so frequently get things hilariously wrong never invites the soul-searching you’d think it would. Instead, it all just somehow leads us to more smugness, more meanness, more certainty from the reporters and pundits. Faced with defeat, we retreat further into our bubble, assumptions left unchecked. No, it’s the voters who are wrong.

As a direct result, we get it wrong with greater frequency. Out on the road, we forget to ask the right questions. We can’t even imagine the right question. We go into assignments too certain that what we find will serve to justify our biases. The public’s estimation of the press declines even further -- fewer than one-in-three Americans trust the press, per Gallup -- which starts the cycle anew.

There’s a place for opinionated journalism; in fact, it’s vital. But our causal, profession-wide smugness and protestations of superiority are making us unable to do it well.

Our theme now should be humility. We must become more impartial, not less so. We have to abandon our easy culture of tantrums and recrimination. We have to stop writing these know-it-all, 140-character sermons on social media and admit that, as a class, journalists have a shamefully limited understanding of the country we cover.

What’s worse, we don’t make much of an effort to really understand, and with too few exceptions, treat the economic grievances of Middle America like they’re some sort of punchline. Sometimes quite literally so, such as when reporters tweet out a photo of racist-looking Trump supporters and jokingly suggest that they must be upset about free trade or low wages.

We have to fix this, and the broken reasoning behind it. There’s a fleeting fun to gang-ups and groupthink. But it’s not worth what we are losing in the process.

Will Rahn

Will Rahn is a political correspondent and managing director, politics, for CBS News Digital.

Dave Dubya said...

OK Chuck,

Time for some manners. Trump and his far Right supporters were never very good at that.

You dropped the entire article. This is spam.

Make your point, give a quote and a link. It's easy, except for the thinking part to make a point.

Now my point. Of course corporate media can be biased, (especially for profit) glib, smug and arrogant. Just watch FOX.

Trump got billions worth of free air time from that same media. They sold their souls for profits by obsessing on Trump. Remember what I said about news for profit?

Now chew on this.

Deep down you know many Trump supporters have scorn for the Republican Party too.

Unlike far Right Republican ideologues, many Trump voters share a lot of concerns with Bernie supporters. If they team up, you and the democrats will be transformed, or toast.







Majormajor said...

Manners? Like the lefty's who attack Trump supporters?
Like the violent lefty protesters trying to overturn an election?

I ask you thoughtful questions and you, as usual, deflect from answering them.
Remember saying my questions were loaded which gave you the right to duck them?
Remember discrediting my posts because I didn't give the quote or source? Now I not only give yur the source but the quote why? Because when I gave links you claimed going there gave your computer a virus? Or was that Mozart, sometimes I confused the two of you.

My point was on page one, "just replace journalist with liberals".

You are correct, as a Trump supporter (or "Trumpie" as you divisively called me earlier this year, remember?) I have one thing fore sure in common with Bernie supporters, we despise being ripped off by the Clinton Family Crime Machine. It seems there are millions of "deplorables" like me, if Tuesday is any indication.

And that Dave, is the point I've been trying to make for years. Liberal elites are just as bad as righty elites, just more sanctimonious.



Dave Dubya said...

Yes, Chuck. Manners.

Manners is knowing that it is disrespectful, condescending, and authoritarian to fire off 10 questions and demand answers. We're not on a bus with Trump here. Most adults already know manners. Learn them, or be regarded as spam.

I asked one question of you in return, and got dumped on again. This starts to go beyond a lapse of manners into rudeness.

Yes, there are millions of Trump supporters. Nobody said they were all deplorable, but vicitmhood is a big thing for you guys.

Still the fact is more Americans voted for Hillary. When Trump leads the nation to debacle and disaster like Bush did, and he will, most of us can say we told you so.

I do appreciate your bit of humor.

"Liberal elites are just as bad as righty elites, just more sanctimonious."

That's funny.

I bet it's the other way around at gatherings of Liberal elites.

Majormajor said...

You got to be kidding? I answer your question and you as a authoritarian, deemed it a lie and said "If you tell this lie again it will be deleted as spam" So what IS yourt problem?

Ok let's try this.

Should Obama pardon HRC before he leaves office.

Dave Dubya said...

The question you didn't answer was: "Do YOU remember 8 years ago and the war that spawned ISIS?"

You deflected with a lie about blaming Obama for ISIS.

That is your problem. You can't honestly answer a question. You are not entitled to any answers, especially when you demand answers to 10 of your questions.

Would you like 10 deflections and lies in response?

So don't project YOUR double standard and authoritarianism at me.

HRC has been defeated. Are you still obsessed with destroying her? Maybe your dictator will have her shot. Would that send a tingle up your leg?

So will Trump make America great again like Bush Jr. did?

Sorry you can't answer that. You can't seem to remember eight years ago.

Shall we just settle this once and for all?

If you make demands and offer no honest answers, you have removed yourself from honest discussion. If you come here to lie, mock, and show disrespect, you don't deserve answers or responses. You will be treated as a disrespectful liar and your hate called out.

After that you are gone.


Majormajor said...

Dave,

I remember the war 8 years ago that we won, but Obama removed the forces needed to prevent ISIS from becoming what they are today. So to answer your question, YES.

Sorry you are having such a hard time dealing with defeat.

When you recover and leave your safe spot let me know.

BTW answering a question with a question is your hallmark trait.

"If you come here to lie, mock, and show disrespect, you don't deserve answers or responses. You will be treated as a disrespectful liar and your hate called out."

Who is the authoritarian? Or is that a question that doesn't deserve an answer?

Simple question, Should Obama pardon HRC?

Can you answer that?

Dave Dubya said...

Well Chuck,

I’m sure you’re not sorry for anything, and I was not defeated. The Clinton Cartel was. But thanks for the insincere sentiment.

“Who is the authoritarian?” The party who demanded answers to 10 questions before answering one. Dismissing rudeness is not authoritarian, it's called civility, no longer applicable in Trumpistan.

Now I can help with your memory:

“I remember the war 8 years ago that we won”

What did we win? If we won, then we pulled out as victors, correct? Iraq “won” a civil war that has continued to this day. ISIS formed under Bush rule in 2006, and gained a cause to unite Sunnis that Bush fired from their military.

“Obama removed the forces needed to prevent ISIS from becoming what they are today”

That dodge and deflection wasn’t 8 years ago, but we can assert the Status of Forces Agreement for withdrawal was signed by BUSH. Why? Iraqis wanted the unaccountable US military out. Most Americans wanted out. Most Republicans wanted out. Only permanent occupation of an unwilling country would have fit your unpopular plan.

What’s your plan now, sport?

So we can now state that ISIS was the direct consequence of Bush’s invasion of Iraq. We “won” nothing, and Iran won a new ally and ISIS won a cause to unite behind.

There, we now have an understanding of the facts.

Pardon Hillary for what again? Was it lying to Congress like Bush did? Or was it using a private email server, also like Bush did?

Please specify her crime and conviction. I can’t offer an answer until you do so.

Dave Dubya said...

Chuck,

To the other important matter we should know from 8 years ago:

8 years of Republican leadership left Obama:

Stock Market Closing Prices - January 20, 2009

Dow Jones Industrial Average ( DJIA ) Close - 7,949.09 Down 332.13
Nasdaq Stock Market Close - 1440.86 Down 88.47
S&P 500 Close - 805.23 Down 44.89

Today we have a DJIA around 18,800.00

Is that better or worse than what a Republican White House left us?

Shall we compare employment rates too?

Now that this reality is established, we can move on to the future.

What can we look forward to under Trump? Another of his famous bankruptcies?

This is your big opportunity to educate us about how Trump will make America great again.

Would you? Can you? Please don't fail us now.





Majormajor said...

"Once again, you impose a bizarre standard. You expect a comprehensive essay when I make an observation or two. Half of your reply makes so little sense to me as to defy response. So, I'll simply allow your rebuttal to stand."

Harley A.

Ed said...

Damn! I wanted a concise essay that would educate me about how Trump is gonna make America great again.

Is it gonna be like Brownback's Kansas Miracle?

Dave Dubya said...

Ed,

Isn't it funny how guys who have all the answers can't come up with them?

Chuck,

Nice try. You probably thought you were being clever with your borrowed comment. (Lame)

At least it was more classic far Right projection, if unwittingly.

By listing 10 questions and demanding answers "You expect a comprehensive essay".

LOL!!!

Here let me help.

Trump will start making American Great Again when he finally pays more federal income tax than I do. What a freeloader.

But he's such a pillar of decency and morality. Yeah, that's what makes America great. Isn't that right, Chuck?





Majormajor said...



Should Obama pardon HRC?

Really tough question I guess cause the only answer Skippy can give me is another question? As usual.

Guess Skippy doesn't know that Nixon was not convicted of crime but Ford pardoned him, so should Obama pardon HRC?

Skippy thinks paying taxes is what makes America great, he is "bizarre".