Wednesday, January 5, 2022

Jan. 6, 2021 Timeline

Trump's Putsch to overturn our election was American fascism's most powerful assault on our Constitution. 

So far. 

Trump's Big Lie and violent mob of terrorists ended the nations proud history of peaceful transition of power. 

Instead of  abandoning and denouncing Trump, the Republican Party deflects and turns away, or openly embraces the perpetrators. The poison of the Big Lie continues to rot out the core of the republic as a Republican tool to seize party control of elections. What remains of a representative democratic republic to slowly suffocated to death.

American ideals like consent of the governed and the will of the people are not the values of the radical Right, They are fascists.

Taking and holding political power by force, as it dismantles democratic representation, is how fascism strangles a republic. 

What it was:

Insurrection: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.

Merriam-Webster- Coup d'état: a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics, especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group.

Merriam Webster- Terrorism: the unlawful use or threat of violence especially against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion

(FBI) Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

United States military’s Guide to Terrorism in the 21st Century defines terrorism as “the calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious or ideological.”

Under the Terrorism Act 2000 terrorism is currently defined as “the use or threat [of action] designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and the use or threat is made for the purposes of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.”

What is is:

Fascism.

American Heritage Dictionary Definition

 “A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. Oppressive, dictatorial control.”

And:

"Fascism is not a specific ideological system with particular content. It's just a strategy for taking power and maintaining power against the rule of law, and against the majority in a democracy."  - Rep. Jamie Raskin

Orwell’s conclusion on fascists, from his 1944 piece, “What is Fascism?”

By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.

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Sean Illing:

When you use the term “fascism,” what exactly do you mean?

Madeleine Albright:

Well, first of all, I’m troubled by how thoughtlessly people throw around that term. At this point, anybody who disagrees with us is a fascist.

In the book, I try to argue that fascism is not an ideology; it’s a process for taking and holding power. A fascist is somebody who identifies with one group — usually an aggrieved majority — in opposition to a smaller group. It’s about majority rule without any minority rights. Which is why fascists tend to single out the smaller group as being responsible for or the cause of their grievances.

The important thing is that fascists aren’t actually trying to solve problems; they’re invested in exacerbating problems and deepening the divisions that result from them. They reject the free press and denounce the institutional structures within a society — like Congress or the judiciary.

I’d also add that violence is a crucial element of fascism. Whatever else it is, fascism involves the endorsement and use of violence to achieve political goals and stay in power. It’s a bully with an army, really.

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TimelineJanuary 6, 2021, an American fascist coup.

8:17 a.m.: Trump tweets: "States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!"

10:00 a.m.: Trump's "Stop the Steal" rally is underway. Addressing the crowd, Donald Trump Jr. says, "If you're going to be the zero and not the hero, we're coming for you, and we're going to have a good time doing it."

11:15 a.m.: A mile-and-a-half from the rally, a group of 200 to 300 protesters arrives at the Capitol reflecting pool area near the west side of the building.

10:50 a.m.: Speaking at the rally, Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani says, "Let's have trial by combat."

Noon: Trump begins to address the mob and continues speaking for more than an hour.

 "We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved."

 "We won this election, and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election."

 "I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so, because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election… All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people."

12:30 p.m.: As Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) enters the Capitol for the joint session of Congress that will certify Biden's election, he gives a thumbs up, a fist pump, and a wave to Trump's mob.

1:00 p.m.: While Trump continues his rant to the mob, some members of Trump's crowd have already reached the US Capitol building where Congress assembles in joint session to certify President-elect Joe Biden's victory. An initial wave of protesters storms the outer barricade west of the Capitol building. As the congressional proceedings begin, Pence reads a letter saying that he won't intervene in Congress's electoral count: "My oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority."

1:09 p.m.: DC Capitol Police Chief Sund tells his superiors – House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving and Senate Sergeant at Arms Michael Stenger — that he wants an emergency declaration and to call in the National Guard.

1:11 p.m.: Trump ends his speech by urging his followers to march down Pennsylvania Avenue: "We fight like hell. If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore… Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun… We're going to the Capitol. We're going to try and give them [Republicans] the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."

 

The Attack

 

If the District of Columbia were a state, its governor alone could have deployed the National Guard to crush the riot. Instead, Trump and his Defense Department had that responsibility, and an unprecedent assault on a sacred institution of government succeeded, if only for a few hours.

(DoD Memo) 1:26 p.m.: The Capitol Police orders the evacuation of the Capitol complex.

Among those later arrested is Federico Klein, who is a US State Department political appointee with a top-secret security clearance. In March 2021, Klein, a former Trump campaign employee before joining the State Department in January 2017, is charged with numerous felonies that include storming the Capitol and assaulting an officer with a riot shield.

1:30 p.m.: The crowd outside the building grows larger, eventually overtaking the Capitol Police and making its way up the Capitol steps. Suspicious packages – later confirmed to be pipe bombs – are found at Republican National Committee headquarters and Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington.

 As the attack unfolds, Trump is initially pleased and disregards aides pleading with him to intercede. Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) later says that, according to Trump aides, he is "delighted," while "walking around the White House confused about why other people on his team [are]n't as excited." Trump initially rebuffs and resists requests to mobilize the National Guard.

 (DoD Memo) 1:34 p.m.: DC Mayor Muriel Bowser asks Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy – who reports to Miller – for more federal help to deal with the mob.

Bowser is told that the request must first come from the Capitol Police.

(DoD Memo) 1:49 p.m.: The Capitol Police chief asks the commanding general of the DC National Guard for immediate assistance.

*The commanding general, Maj. Gen. William Walker, later testifies that he immediately notifies Army senior leadership of the request. The previous day, he had received an unusual restriction on deploying any quick reaction force service members unless Army secretary McCarthy explicitly approves is. Anticipating such approval, Walker begins to move National Guard members closer to the Capitol.

Also at 1:49 p.m.: Trump retweets a video of the rally, which includes his previous statements that: "our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you came up with, we will stop the steal. . . You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

1:59 p.m.: Sund receives the first report that rioters have reached the Capitol's doors and windows and are attempting to break at least one window.

2:10 p.m.: Text and email alerts to all congressional staff warn those inside to stay away from windows and those outside to seek cover.

2:11 p.m.: Trump's mob breaches the Capitol building – breaking windows, climbing inside, and opening doors for others to follow.

2:13 p.m.: Pence suddenly leaves the Senate floor and is moved to a nearby office.

2:14 p.m.: Rioters chase DC Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman up a flight of stairs and arrive on the landing near the office where Pence and his family are hiding. Goodman runs in the opposite direction – luring them away from Pence and the Senate chamber.

2:18 p.m.: Another text alert goes out to Capitol staff: "Due to security threat inside: immediately, move inside your office, take emergency equipment, lock the doors, take shelter."

Around 2:20 p.m.: Hiding in a barricaded room, members of Congress and their aides make pleas for outside help. Among them is a senior adviser to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who reaches a former law firm colleague, Will Levi. Levi had served as Attorney General William Barr's chief of staff. From his home, Levi then calls FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich at the command center in the FBI's Washington field office. Bowdich dispatches the first of three tactical teams to the Capitol, including one from the Washington field office and another from Baltimore.

During the attack: Among the members of Congress appealing directly to Trump for help is House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA). According to a later statement from Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-WA), "When McCarthy finally reached the president on January 6 and asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the riot, the president initially repeated the falsehood that it was antifa that had breached the Capitol. McCarthy refuted that and told the president that these were Trump supporters. That's when, according to McCarthy, the president said: 'Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.'" [Emphasis in original]

(DoD Memo) 2:22 p.m.: Army Secretary McCarthy discusses the situation at the Capitol with Mayor Bowser and her staff.

They are begging for additional National Guard assistance. Note the time. It's been almost an hour since Bowser requested help.

2:24 p.m.: Trump tweets: "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!"

After erecting a gallows on the Capitol grounds, the mob shouts, "Hang Mike Pence." Rioters create another noose from a camera cord seized during an attack on an on-site news team.

2:26 p.m.: While the senators are in a temporary holding room after the Senate chamber is evacuated, Trump tries to call Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL), but mistakenly reaches Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), who hands the phone to Tuberville. Trump then tries to convince Tuberville to make additional objections to the Electoral College vote in an effort to block Congress' certification of Biden's win. The call is cut off because senators are asked to move to a secure location. "Mr. President, they've taken the vice president out," Tuberville says. "They want me to get off the phone, I gotta go.'"

2:26 p.m.: Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund joins a conference call with several officials from the DC government, as well as officials from the Pentagon, including Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, director of the Army Staff. Piatt later issues a statement denying the statements attributed to him.

"I am making an urgent, urgent immediate request for National Guard assistance," Sund says. "I have got to get boots on the ground."

The DC contingent is flabbergasted when Piatt says that he could not recommend that his boss, Army Secretary McCarthy, approve the request. "I don't like the visual of the National Guard standing a police line with the Capitol in the background," Piatt says. Again and again, Sund says that the situation is dire.

The commanding general of the DC National Guard, Maj. Gen. William Walker, later testifies that the call includes Lt. Gen Charles Flynn – brother of former national security Mike Flynn, whom Trump pardoned after pleading guilty to lying to the FBI during the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and the Trump campaign. Piatt and Flynn relay to Walker: "It wouldn't be their best military advice to send uniformed guardsmen to the Capitol because they didn't like the optics. And they had also said that it could 'inflame' [the protesters]."

2:28 p.m.: Rioters storm House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA) suite of offices, pounding the doors trying to find her.

(D0D Memo) 2:30 p.m.: Miller, Army Secretary McCarthy, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff meet to discuss Mayor Bowser's request.

2:33 p.m.: A broadcast on the emergency management agency channel in DC requests that all law enforcement officers in the city respond to the Capitol.

2:42 p.m.: As lawmakers are evacuating the House chamber using the Speaker's Lobby, rioters breach the Lobby threshold.

2:52 p.m.: The first FBI SWAT team enters the Capitol.

2:53 p.m.: The last of a large group of House members has been evacuated and is headed for a secure location.

(DoD Memo) 3:04 p.m.: Miller gives "verbal approval" to full mobilization of the DC National Guard (1,100 members).

It has now been more than 90 minutes since Mayor Bowser first asked Army Secretary McCarthy for assistance. It took an hour for Defense Department officials to meet and another half-hour for them to decide to help. And Bowser still doesn't know the status of her request.

(Memo) 3:19 p.m.: Pelosi and Schumer call Army Secretary McCarthy, who says that Bowser's request has now been approved.

(Memo) 3:26 p.m.: Army Secretary McCarthy calls Bowser to tell her that her request for help has been approved.

The Defense Department's notification of approval to Bowser came two hours after her request.

While Miller and his team were slow-walking Mayor Bowser's request, she had sought National Guard assistance from Virginia Governor Ralph Northam (D) and Maryland Governor Larry Hogan (R). At about the same time, Speaker Pelosi called Northam directly for help and he agreed.

3:29 p.m.: Governor Northam announces mobilization of Virginia's National Guard. But there's a hitch. Federal law requires Defense Department authorization before any state's National Guard can cross the state border onto federal land in DC. That approval doesn't come until almost two hours later.

(DoD Memo) 3:47 p.m. Governor Hogan mobilizes his state's National Guard and 200 state troopers.

The Defense Department "repeatedly denies" Hogan's request to deploy the National Guard at the Capitol. As he awaits approval, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) calls Hogan from the undisclosed bunker to which he, Speaker Pelosi, and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) have been evacuated. Hoyer pleads for assistance, saying that the Capitol Police is overwhelmed and there is no federal law enforcement presence.

4:17 p.m.: Trump tweets a video telling rioters, "I know your pain, I know you're hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side… It's a very tough period of time. There's never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us — from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You're very special. You've seen what happens. You see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil."

(DoD Memo) 4:18 p.m.: Miller gives voice approval to notifying surrounding states to muster and be prepared to mobilize their National Guard personnel.

(DoD Memo) 4:32 p.m.: Miller gives verbal authorization to "re-mission" DC National Guard from city posts where most have been directing traffic and monitoring subway stations "to conduct perimeter and clearance operations" in support of the Capitol Police force.

4:40 p.m.: More than 90 minutes after Governor Hogan had requested federal approval to send his state's National Guard troops to DC, Army Secretary McCarthy calls and asks, "Can you come as soon as possible?" Hogan responds, "Yeah. We've been waiting. We're ready."

5:08 p.m.: More than three hours after Maj. Gen. Walker's request for approval to deploy the National Guard at the Capitol, he receives approval.

 5:20 p.m.: After being ready for hours, 155 members of the National Guard arrive at the Capitol. According to Maj. Gen. Walker's later testimony, earlier assistance "could have made a difference" in pushing back the crowd.

(DoD Memo) 5:45 p.m.: Miller signs formal authorization for out-of-state National Guard personnel to muster and gives voice approval for deployment to support the Capitol Police.

The first Maryland National Guard personnel don't arrive at the Capitol until January 7 at 10:00 a.m. The first Virginia National Guard members arrive at Noon.

6:01 p.m.: Trump tweets: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!"

7:00 p.m.: Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, intends to call Sen. Tuberville but, like Trump five hours earlier, he reaches Sen. Lee. Unaware that he has reached the wrong number,

Giuliani leaves a voicemail message saying, "Sen. Tuberville? Or I should say Coach Tuberville. This is Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer. I'm calling you because I want to discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, our Republican friends, to try to just slow it down so we can get these legislatures to get more information to you. I know they're reconvening at 8 tonight, but it … the only strategy we can follow is to object to numerous states and raise issues so that we get ourselves into tomorrow — ideally until the end of tomorrow."

When Congress resumes the session at 8:06 p.m., Tuberville votes in favor of objections to certifying Biden's election.

(DoD Memo) 8:00 p.m.: The DC Capitol Police declare the Capitol building secure.


14 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's interesting you quote lines from a book of fiction. That is your rock bed? That's the best you have?

Rex said...

Damn, every day is January 6th to the left, right?

Every American worth a damn condemns those idiots that acted violently and destroyed property in the capitol that day. They should be punished as per the law.

But what about the insurrections in our cities by BLM and antifa that have caused dozens of innocent deaths, and thousands of injuries to cops and citizens, not to mention BILLIONS of dollars in destruction?

What about the insurrectionists in congress that want to unilaterally ignore the constitution when it comes to voting, electoral college, and even distribution of COVID treatments to those who are the appropriate color? Who are really the bastard insurrectionists?

The capitol riot was a bunch of unorganized idiots having a temper tantrum because a corrupt and senile fuckhead was supposedly "elected" to the presidency.

The leftist insurrectionists are a far larger bunch of idiots throughout our country and in our legislative branch that want to undo the very foundations of our nation.

Maybe a little perspective is in order here, Dave. Perhaps... maybe... both insurrections should be condemned.

Dave Dubya said...

Hi Rex,

Thank you for your comment. Did you actually read the post? You needed to deflect right out of the gate.

What about the destruction by "BLM/antifa" rioters?

First, it has nothing to do with Trump's January 6th coup.

Second, nearly everyone condemns it. The radical Right refuses to acknowledge that fact. They want to portray Democrats as cheerleaders for rioters, an understandable projection.

Did you know some radical Right thugs also participated in the vandalism to agitate more disorder in Minneapolis? I bet not.

Look up "Umbrella man". The Right has been silent on this man's behavior. Why?

https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-george-floyd-rioting/571932272/

Police: 'Umbrella Man' was a white supremacist trying to incite George Floyd rioting

A Minneapolis police arson investigator said the man’s actions at the AutoZone on East Lake Street set off a chain reaction that led to days of looting and rioting. The building was later burned to the ground.

“This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city,” Erika Christensen wrote in a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week. “Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling ‘Umbrella man,’ the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual’s sole aim was to incite violence.


Yup. White supremacy strikes again. The murder of Floyd wasn't enough to satisfy them.

Too bad the radical Right refuses to admit to the racism and cruelty that triggers such protests. They DO NOT appear out of the blue, you know.

Every January 6th will be an anniversary of Trump's coup. We should NEVER forget it, and WHY it happened. Trump lost, and his weak and vain ego couldn't handle it.

Every day the Right is working to undermine democracy and voter rights, and gerrymandering away fair representation for most Americans, including minorities and Democratic voters.

The are engineering permanent minority rule. That IS the point of it, you know, to undo the very foundations of our nation.

I totally agree with you that, "Every American worth a damn condemns those idiots that acted violently and destroyed property in the capitol that day."

Your Dear Leader PRAISED them.

Are you aware of the number of Republicans who defend those thugs as heroes? We saw a group of radical Right Congress members protest their incarceration while ignoring the assaults on Capitol Police.

On July 27th Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Texas) and Paul Gosar (Ariz.) held a news conference outside the DOJ to protest the treatment of individuals arrested in connection to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Do you condemn them? Or are they, like Trump, "Americans worth a damn"?

Dave Dubya said...

So how about that guy who incited the mob to overturn a certified fair election? Is he OK in your book?

Is it also OK in your book that Trump PRAISED his mob of thugs after doing NOTHING to stop them for hours? Obviously he wanted them to succeed.

This is fascism. Straight from Hitler's Big Lie and Putsch playbook. But you seem fine with that. Every American worth a damn condemns him, his Big Lie, and his cult of authoritarian thugs. But Trumpists are beyond the point of any appeal to reality, reason or compassion.

That's exactly why they gleefully participated in domestic terrorism on behalf of their Dear Fuhrer.

(FBI Definition) Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

Can you enlighten us how "insurrectionist" Democratic legislators are doing that?

We know. You can't. It just FEELS good to make that absurd accusation.

In case you don't know it, overturning a fair election by mob violence is EXACTLY how "to undo the very foundations of our nation".

So yes, maybe a little perspective is in order here.

Anonymous said...

One right winger didn't cause all the damage in Minneapolis. If you believe that, you are an idiot. The crowd of thousands were 99% liberals and they had their fun looting and burning. But you excuse that because a right winger threw the first Molotov cocktail? Get real!

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous,
You can't "get real" until you comprehend the fact it was Orwell’s conclusion on fascists, from his 1944 piece, “What is Fascism?”

You presumed it was from "1984" or "Animal Farm"? Or whatever other false notion in your mind.

It was NOT fiction.

But thank you for not reading, anyway.

Rex said...

"The difference is Democrats never praised the vandals, rioters, and thugs, like Trump did for his racist mob."

Dave, this is the crap that destroys your credibility.

Many on the left DID praise the BLM looters and arsonists. Even our brilliant VP worked to raise bail money for these piece of shit thugs.

Here is just a sample of the leftists that praised the vandals, rioters, and thugs of the left:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/george-floyd-democrats-police-deroy-murdock

Oh, and just to reiterate AGAIN, just because someone supported Trump does not make him or her a racist. My lovely ex (who is black) would be shocked to learn that she is a racist. This is just left wing bullshit talking points. It is why nobody takes the left seriously anymore.

Anonymous said...

Police: 'Umbrella Man' was a white supremacist trying to incite George Floyd rioting

A Minneapolis police arson investigator said the man’s actions at the AutoZone on East Lake Street set off a chain reaction that led to days of looting and rioting. The building was later burned to the ground.

“This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city,” Erika Christensen wrote in a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week. “Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling ‘Umbrella man,’ the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual’s sole aim was to incite violence.”

Yup. White supremacy strikes again. The murder of Floyd wasn't enough to satisfy them.

you posted this

Dave Dubya said...

But, Rex, you can’t fathom the fact he is a liar.

So you need to ignore the fact he lied and corruptly tried to bully Georgia’s Sec. of State Raffensperger to “Find 11,780 votes” for him to win. He even said it was "criminal" not to.

You need to ignore the fact Trump lied and corruptly pressured DOJ officials like acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen to "Just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican Congressmen." This is according to the notes of acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue.

So you buy into his Big Lie that Biden somehow magically stole the election from him.

Another important fact you MUST ignore. He lied about it. He rallied a mob and sent them to the Capitol to “stop the steal”. He wanted to overturn the election.

He watched TV for HOURS as his mob stormed the Capitol and terrorized Congress. He WANTED them to succeed with his coup.

After they failed, he PRAISED the thugs.

Above all this is what you MUST ignore.

If you support and trust a man who praises terrorists, constantly attacks a fair election that has been proven in every case to result in his loss, LIES about it, AND cried endlessly that he was cheated...well, maybe, as you say, a little perspective is in order here.

Or...Time to deflect again.

It's what a true believer would do.

Anonymous said...

You and Shaw are the ones who keep naming 1984 and quoting its fiction.

Dave Dubya said...

Is Anonymous bothered by George Orwell's 1984 because it exposes authoritarian methods of brainwashing that control his own beliefs?

He and the Trump cult epitomize the Big Brother slogan, "Ignorance is strength."

No wonder he's annoyed, amirite?

Of course Orwell's 1984 accurately nailed how authoritarians control followers' thoughts and beliefs by telling them to ignore all information that does not conform to the party and leaders' propaganda.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” – The Party (1984)

“Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening.” - Trump

See? I keep quoting Trump along with Orwell. How fair and balanced is that? Why is he complaining?

He stupidly disregards the fact there are no quotes from his fiction in my posts since November.

The recent citations are from an essay he wrote on fascism in 1944.

Is he so ignorant, brainwashed, or illiterate to not get that?

So far, that is exactly what he demonstrates. I've told him twice the recent quote is from his non-fiction essay on fascism.

1984 is the definitive study of totalitarian sociopolitical mind control and emotional manipulation.

No wonder he doesn't want to comprehend Orwell's writing.

Maybe he purposefully doesn't want to understand fascism and mind control because he's a brainwashed fascist who can't comprehend being in a cult.

He obediently refuses to allow reality to interfere with his complete trust and loyalty for Trump. He loves his Big Brother.

Orwell understands Anonymous and his MAGA cult more than he and his cult can ever comprehend.





Anonymous said...

None of what Orwell wrote in 1984 has come true, so if you want to keep proving you are an idiot, go ahead.

Dave Dubya said...

Imagine being so stupid you think 1984 is literal prophecy. This is the feeble mentality of Anonymous.

It is fiction, but idiots can't comprehend it is an examination of totalitarian sociopolitical mind control and emotional manipulation.

However, let's look at his simple-minded assertion:
"None of what Orwell wrote in 1984 has come true"

Is that so?

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” – The Party (1984)

“Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening.” - Trump

“War is peace.” Party slogan (1984)

“I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.” George W. Bush.

Orwell understood Anonymous and his MAGA cult more than he and his cult can ever comprehend.

No wonder Anonymous wants to deflect from Orwell's NON-FICTION discussion of fascism.

Let's see how he demonstrates his ignorance and idiocy by deflecting from the points I have just made. He is incapable of rational good faith discussion, so whatever he says WILL be deflection, stupid, ignorant or hateful.

I understand him much more than he understands his own authoritarian mindset. This triggers him and wigs him out.

Whatcha got to say for yourself, Anonymous? Or should I ask, what do your authoritarian leaders and propagandists tell you to think and say?

LOL!

Anonymous said...

You never addressed my point, so I will ignore yours.