Trump’s war with Iran is understandably celebrated by Iranian exiles who hope to see their country restored. To what, I’m not sure. May their best wishes come true. Almost anything would be better than the brutal theocracy Iran endures.
That said, I get that not everybody wants to hear my opinion on Trump's war. Fine. War fever tends to inflame emotions over rationality. This tragedy was inevitable with Iran, Israel, and the US all under the rule of authoritarian war criminals.
Two
bloggers who’d rather not consider my thoughts are Infidel and Darrell
Michaels. (They don’t allow my comments at their blogs and Darrell accused me
of being a communist.) The former says I’m part of the "ignorantsia", and
the latter says, critics “either don’t know and understand the history with Iran
and the evil that the regime has perpetrated, or they simply hate Trump more
than they love their own country. Often times I think both are factors.”
Obviously, no discussion is possible with anyone who demeans those who question Trump’s war. Nothing new there. The same ilk would call me a “communist” for opposing the war in Vietnam and a “terrorist sympathizer” for opposing Bush’s Iraq war that was also based on lies.
Somehow I bet they don’t want to be reminded that the US killed far more innocent Vietnamese and Iraqis than Iran has Israelis and Americans. With war all values become “flexible”.
However, I do share Darrell's and Infidel's hope that Iran will recover from this war and life will be better for their people.
I will always celebrate the demise of tyrants, be they Atheist, Muslim, Christian or Jew. There's no shortage of human carnage caused by authoritarian rulers claiming to be godly. I think it's somewhere between naive and foolish to expect a democracy to pop up from the ashes in Iran. The same goes for any good will towards Israel and the US after we slaughter thousands of Iranians, including school children.
As the Christian Nationalist Trump supporters are joined by budding new neocons in cheering the bombing of Iran, there are a couple glaring issues that are absent from their rhetoric.
Nobody wants to discuss WHY this mess happened in the first place. And bombs won’t fix it.
One Trump War supporter did mention some historical background.
Mosaddegh led the first serious attempt to bring real democracy to Iran and expel foreign domination, only to be overthrown by the US/British-backed coup of 1953 which restored the rule of the Shāh. Most Americans have barely heard of him, but this history is well-known in Iran. ~ Infidel
Infidel has touched on one reason why the US isn’t loved in Iran. Yes, with help from Britain, Good Ol’ America is why Iran was a dictatorship that fell to theocracy. The reason? Oil. Mosaddegh had the nerve to declare their the oil belonged to Iran, so he had to go. The west wanted a dictator to partner with their exploitation and control of Iranian resources.
We couldn’t leave well enough alone and planted the seeds of dictatorship that ripened Iran into a theocratic coup.
Let’s go back to the question why.
Zionist Israel and radical Islam are the other reasons for the conflict. Bottom line. Yes, good old time religion is bearing it’s sanguine fruits again. One side says God wants them to take land from Muslims and the other says God wants them to kill Jews.
Every pro-war voice I've seen pretends democracy is the goal. Right. Have they looked in America’s mirror lately? Trump is already demanding Iran give him their oil (Surprise!) and to let him anoint their next leader.
This war is Israel’s war, and Trump wanted a piece of the action. It is a war of choice started by two authoritarian war criminals. Trump is joining the Butcher of Gaza in spreading more death and chaos in the Middle East that will have global consequences.
I don't buy the ever shifting justifications from the Trump Regime. They LIED about Iran having missiles that could reach the US. They LIED about Iran being close to a nuclear weapon. The best they have is their lame and paranoid hypothetical argument, (that is, Trump’s FEELING) that Iran would attack the US military when Israel assassinated Khamenei. Israel killed Khamenei and are USING Trump as their enforcer.
Who’s going to pay the higher cost for gas and goods? Who’s paying for the war and reconstruction? You can bet it won’t be Trump and Netanyahu. Americans are now paying in lives as well as treasure in service to the butcher Netanyahu. Nobody can calculate the costs that Iranians will be facing.
A
pox on both their houses, and on the Criminal President’s authoritarian regime.
My heart goes out to all their innocent victims.
Netanyahu is under indictment for corruption. Trump thinks it's BS.
ReplyDeleteTrump is a convicted felon, guilty of fraud and has admitted fraudulent dealings through his non profit in the past. As have many of his aides, now pardoned of their fraud and corruption.
Birds of a feather Dave, always flock together. BiBi and DJT.
Corrupted soul mates.
Excellent post.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
DeleteWhile Iran, under the boots of Islamic Theism has done some very unethical things, the Truth however is that American policy going back to the "50's" is, in large part responsible for current realities. The United States should have ignored Netanyahu, pulled ALL support from him and let the chips fall however they fell.
ReplyDeleteWe alligned with a lying psychopath, Netanyahu, and a religion seething with hate for Muslims for thousands of years. Muslims are NOT by virtue of birth and belief bad people.
Zionism has desired the complete destruction of Muslims for 47 years. Netanyahu and Zionism are, in fact, the Grea Satan's.
I've known many Iranian people and Palestinians. They are intelligent and wonderful people. Netanyahu, Trump, Zionism, and Christian Nationalism are all based in evil beliefs determined to marginalize or exterminate those the hate.
Israeli hegemony in the ME and American worldwide hegemony are both ultimately bound for failure. And both countries WILL absolutely suffer greatly. The result of ther ignorance and hate.
DeleteDave and Les,
War criminals Netanyahu, Trump, and Putin, along with authoritarian theocrats will always assure more cruelty and bloodshed.
As it is, humans are by far the most savage of primates. They are easily manipulated into fearing and hating anything or anyone they don't understand. The great human tragedy is too many people reject critical thinking and allow such brutes into positions of power.
This is the path to self-extinction.
Humans possess both the capacity for incredible compassion, kindness, and empathy born of love. They also possess the capacity for incredible ignorance, cruelty, and great evil born of ignorance and ego.
ReplyDeleteThe Buddha, Jesus, Mohamed, Guru Nanak, and other great enlightened spiritual leaders saw the path to, and lived the path to true happiness and peace.
Their wisdom still exists for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, and have done the work to connect with thr wisdom that actually exists in each of us. The majority of humanity however have forgotten (never knew) who they really are.
Jesus knew. Mohamed knew. Guru Nanak knew. Buddha knew. And many other enlightened spiritual leaders knew. They tried to pass the wisdoms on. Because of the ego's attachment to an illusory and non-existent self, most block the truth. In so doing theyblock the path to true happiness and peace.
We are really all one, and we are all part of the same oneness. Fully connected to the universe and the same liveness that exists in each of us. Most simply refuse to understand and accept the truth.
Les,
ReplyDeleteIt really isn't complicated. Anyone who can't follow the Golden Rule is a sociopath, greedy beyond the bounds of decency, or emotionally immature, or all three.
Well, well. No wonder the Criminal Regime is backing off from their regime change bullshit.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/07/iran-intelligence-report-unlikely-oust-regime/
Intel report warns large-scale war ‘unlikely’ to oust Iran’s regime
A classified U.S. report doubts that Iran’s opposition would take
A classified report by the National Intelligence Council found that even a large-scale assault on Iran launched by the United States would be unlikely to oust the Islamic republic’s entrenched military and clerical establishment, a sobering assessment as the Trump administration raises the specter of an extended military campaign that officials say has “only just begun.”
The findings, confirmed to The Washington Post by three people familiar with the report’s contents, raise doubts about President Donald Trump’s declared plan to “clean out” Iran’s leadership structure and install a ruler of his choosing.
The report, completed about a week before the United States and Israel initiated the war on Feb. 28, outlined succession scenarios stemming from either a narrowly tailored campaign against Iran’s leaders or a broader assault against its leadership and government institutions, the people familiar with its findings said. In both cases, the intelligence concluded that Iran’s clerical and military establishment would respond to the killing of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei by following protocols designed to preserve continuity of power, these people said.
The prospect of Iran’s fragmented opposition taking control of the country was described as “unlikely,” said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a classified report.
The National Intelligence Council, or NIC, is composed of veteran analysts who produce classified assessments meant to represent the collective wisdom of Washington’s 18 intelligence agencies.
The CIA referred questions to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which declined to comment. The White House did not say if the president was briefed on this assessment before approving the military operation.
Trump and his MAGAt henchmen have imperialist aspirations. To extend American hegemony across the entire globe, and giving hegemony in the ME to the Zionist State and Butcher Netanyahu.
ReplyDeleteThe Orange Marmalade Tyrant is beginning to look a lot like the founder of the German Third Reich, Adolph Hitler.
And the US's vassel states in Eurooe and elsewhere politely fall in line and kiss TOM'S a*s.
And Americans are already feeling the beginning of another round of increased costs [inflation], not to mention the very real likelihood of financial loss due impact on the markets, affecting retirement accounts.
The brilliance many believe(d) TOMT possessed is getting more tarnished and rusted with each passing moment.
May protests in countries around the globe unify in purpose and increase in intensity!
Thelma Johnson posted:
ReplyDeleteMAGA: “I was okay with all the stealing, conflict of interest, war crimes, pedophile protection, falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments, election interference, the murder and detainment of US citizens by ICE, mishandling classified documents, inciting the January 6 insurrection, the Trump Organization tax fraud conviction, the emoluments clause violations, his nepotism in appointments, obstructing FBI investigations, wire fraud via PAC solicitations, the perjury in election challenges, unlawful possession of government records, firing inspectors general without notice, using the DOJ for political prosecutions, violating the Posse Comitatus by using the military against US citizens, adultery with payments to Stormy Daniels…but $5 diesel is too damn much!”
On second thought, they'll pay $5 a gallon and blame Biden. LOL!
The MAGA Nazis are coming out of the woodwork with their triggered hate and rage.
DeleteThey don't seem to want to discuss or debate any issues, for some reason...
When wilfull ignorance of factual truths, worship of a narcissistic psychopath, and extreme nationalism takes over the thought processes of individuals it leads to exactly what we're seeing in the USA today.
ReplyDeletePart of MAGA is beginnings to see a bit more clearly, MTG, for example. The Neo-Con MAGAts are continuing to support the ignorance and delusions of their Fuhrer Trump.
It will NOT end well for ANYBODY.
Dave... as i continue to think on this, I'm left with one main question...
ReplyDeleteWhat is the objective we are trying to achieve by bombing Iran.
Can anyone explain it to me?
-FJ, Les, Vern, Anon, anyone?
Dave,
ReplyDeleteMAGAts don't answer questions. Remember cruelty and bloodlust is in their nature, so Trump can do no wrong in punishing, killing, and torturing everyone they hate.
Near as I can tell, Trump is Netanyahu's chump, playing the tough guy and doing the dirty work for him. I expect both Bibi and Putin to have info on Trump provided by Epstein.
This is my working theory.
Dave... they won't answer because they can't. There simply has been no announcement from the Trump Admin on why we had to start bombing Iran.
ReplyDeleteI mean except for lies, but they can't even settle on one lie.
They're all over the map. It was nuclear, regime change, punishment for aiming at DJT and more.
These guys make Don Knotts look like a Turkish Marksman... :-)
The Orange Man is dancing, controlled by Israel's Netanyahu (The Butcher) as well as the greed and blood thirsty oligarchs of American capitalism and military might (MIC).
ReplyDeleteThe American Empire is beginning to crumble as nations look eastward to Asia for stability and the security this nation is no longer able to offer.
America, without question, is in a downward spiral of its own making and hasn't a clue how to reverse it.
Trump actually shepherd in the decline and continues to fuel it with the help of the Israeli Lobby and Trump's domestic henchmen.
I AM ABSOLUTELY.SATISFIED WITH OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS VOTED FOR... WE NEEDED A LEADER WITH A BACKBONE IN OUR COUNTRY.SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.AND NOT LET US BE SCREWED BY OTHER COUNTRIES OR LET THESE ANIMALS HOLD A NUKE OVER OUR HEAD TO CONTROL THE U.S…….AND WE CAN NOT HAVE ANOTHER PUSSYFOOTED DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT TO LEAD US AGAIN.
ReplyDeleteRay,
DeleteThank you for your opinion.
Of COURSE you're "ABSOLUTELY.SATISFIED". Your malevolent mendacious messiah can do no wrong.
Trump promised "No more wars". THAT is what you allegedly voted for.
It comes as no surprise to a rational observer that Trump's fanatic base wouldn't care what he does, what lies he tells, what children he molested and raped, or what promises he breaks.
The MAJORITY of the American people DISAPPROVE of his war. This was NOT OUR WAR. It has always been Netanyahu's.
Iran wasn't "holding a nuke over our heads" in any way. YOU just delight in bloodshed and slaughter of innocent human beings. Trump is the savage animal and you can't see it. His goons are murdering Americans for protesting, JUST LIKE THE AYATOLLAH does!
Israel took out their leadership, only to see another Khamenei take over. (Notice how Trump stopped mentioning regime change?)
Trump and Hegseth SLAUGHTERED over a hundred children in a school because Hegseth fired their best intelligence officers on Iran and bombed on outdated information. It is negligent mass homicide.
Trump claimed to have "obliterated" Iran's nuclear weapons program. He just joined in the bombing to look tough.
Trump has inspired a whole new generation of terrorists to attack within our country. It's happening already.
We are ALL getting screwed at the gas pump, and will see more inflation from his bullshit war. This is all about Trump and Israel first, not America.
Obama left Trump with an Iran deal that SHUT DOWN THEIR WEAPONS PROGRAM with inspectors. He KILLED IT!!!
Why not just admit you worship and PARROT a criminal and liar and be done with it? You are incapable of critical thinking or disagreeing with that liar and criminal.
The SHAME is on you.
ALL I WILL SAY IS THAT YOU ARE AN IDIOT IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU WRITE!
DeleteTrump hadn’t even been President for 30 days and already the Deaf and Dumb Democratic Progressives ARE BLAMING HIM FOR ALL THE CRAZIEST CRAP THAT DELUSIONAL BIDEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR..
DeleteAND THERE IS NO ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT!. It is right there in the open for everyone to see.
If you are Normal and not the same DEMENTED FOOL THAT HE IS.
Anonymous Ray,
DeleteSo why can't YOU show me where I am mistaken or dishonest?
Well, big boy?
I'll tell you why you CAN'T.
Every informed person knows YOU are a gullible cult fanatic incapable of critical thinking.
All you can do is spew your hate and ignorance.
Ray,
DeleteSo you're saying only Trump's cult are "normal" people?
LOL!!! That's a good one! Please share more of your "critical thinking" skills.
LOL!
We're Trump Two not so destructive, evil, and efficient at destroying our country's economy, destroying our democracy, supporting the terrorist activities of Netanyahu and Zionist Israel, killing schoolgirls with Tomahawk missiles, and pretending to make everything great again it would be the world's greatest comedy act depicting the greatest incompetence of all time. Served up by a narcissistic as*hole and severely deranged "man".
ReplyDeleteDave, the trolls you have here are the same types of folks who for years have saddled us with folks like Trump and Newt Gingrich. Let's look at Trump first, the current savior of this crowd.
ReplyDeleteAfter starting the current conflict/war/not war/excursion into Iran, he got tired of it and declared...
Mar 7, "we defeated Iran", Mar 9, "We need to beat Iran", Mar 9 again, "The war is complete, pretty much", Mar 11, "We need to beat Iran", Mar 11, again, "We won but also we didn't", Mar 12, We won the war", Mar 13, We won, but also we didn't" and Saturday, "Iran is defeated".
Is Iran defeated? Who knows, certainly not Trump, at least according to his statements.
How the US survives with a POTUS as addled, confused and inane as Trump, as shown in those statements, is anyone's guess.
Maybe our MAGA friends and enablers can explain what Trump's actual statements mean. Maybe...
But then, like a ray of sunshine into the demented souls of these uninformed folks, we get a blast from the past, from the man who broke our government in the first place, the man who first defined political opponents not as fellow citizens, but as the enemy. His name is Newt Gingrich, the man who as Speaker of the House, provided the "intellectual underpinnings of the future Trumpism.
Yesterday he revealed his solution to the current closure of the Straits of Hormuz, 100% the result of Trump's Unplanned War in Iran... are you ready for it? How about it Ray, the crazy Anons and the rest? Here's it is...
"Instead of fighting over a 21-mile-wide bottleneck forever, we cut a new channel through friendly territory. A dozen thermonuclear detonations and you’ve got a waterway wider than the Panama Canal, deeper than the Suez, and safe from Iranian attacks...”
You read it correctly. A GOP leader, one of the main reasons we are in the current fix said we should just light off 12 nuclear bombs to open a previously nonexistent waterway.
The idiocy of these people is astonishing.
And yet, here we are.
Right, Dave.
ReplyDeleteThere's no rationality or critical thinking in cults, and what we have is 99% of a political party that either believes, or cynically goes along with, the Cult Leader.
Trump voters are the true believers don't have to think. They must only believe, no matter how senseless, illogical, stupid, or contradictory their cult leader is.
Trump promised, "no more wars", then started another war. The cult doesn't care. Their malevolent mendacious messiah can NEVER be wrong.
Rational discussion or evidentiary debate are impossible with them. Being the stubborn contrarian I am, I delight in engaging with them to prove my points. Their inability to grasp reality always comes out.
One of my favorite exchanges was with Ed Bonderenka, one of their talk radio personalities who essentially admitted there's no place for Christ in Christian Nationalism. It's not a "Christian" government's job to do the work of Christ like caring for the sick and poor, but it's about Christian nationalists having power over the rest of us.
http://www.davedubya.com/2026/01/maga-and-jesus.html
First of all, I am NOT Anonymous.. Secondly YES, I AM ABSOLUTELY, and COMPLETELY .SATISFIED WITH OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS VOTED FOR.
DeleteAnd Thirdly I think that I am the only one one this Board, except for the Author of the blog that in NOT Rooting for America to Lose!. The Rest of you are TRAITORS are hoping that America , and Our President losses, and I'll Name them David Dubya, Dave Miller, "and Lester The Cry Baby",
Ray,
DeleteWE didn't want America to needlessly LOSE the lives of those serving in uniform!
WE didn't want America to needlessly LOSE multiple aircraft and billions of dollars a day!
WE didn't want Trump's oil shortage crisis that is NEEDLESSLY COSTING US MONEY EVERY DAY!
That's what YOU want.
This certainly looks a lot like you:
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AnonymousMarch 15, 2026 at 7:17 AM
ABSOLUTELY. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS VOTED FOR... WE NEEDED A LEADER WITH A BACKBONE IN OUR COUNTRY.SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.AND NOT LET US BE SCREWED BY OTHER COUNTRIES OR LET THESE ANIMALS HOLD A NUKE OVER OUR HEAD TO CONTROL THE U.S.
AND AS FOR THISE MEATHEADS LIKE THE ONES ABOVE, THEY CAN GO TO IRLAND WITH THAT OTHER MORONIC JACKASS ROSEY O’ DONNAL AND NEVER COME BACK IF THEY HATE AMERICA THAT MUCH!
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You're a LIAR, Ray.
And NOBODY voted for Trump to start another war that he PROMISED not to start.
You got caught lying TWICE, Ray. That's not including your hateful bullshit accusation of treason!
So STOP YOUR WHINING with your fake outrage.
Why we are where we're at IMO, at least politically:
ReplyDelete1) Zionism
2) Christianity (Evangelical Pentecostal Christian Natioalism)
3) Radical elements in Islam
With Zionism and Christianity the most egregious and the greatest cause. As it they pursue the greatest unethical behaviors in their actions.
Looking at history:
Especially Christianity with its missionary zeal and support of colonialism and forced faith conversion everywhere it wormed its way into indigenous cultures.
And now Christian Nationalists in US government (Project 2025 and such) are attempting to circumvent the Establishment Clause of the US Constitution and in effect create a "Christian Nation". Or put another way a Christian Theocracy. Every bit as evil as a Muslim Caliphate.
No doubt making it very tenuous if you're Buddhist, Sikh, Muslim, Jain, Hindu, Native American spirituality, or any other unnamed here.
One thing is clear, America has been infected with and accepted great ignorance in its leadership if late.
Ray, I'll take you at your word that you are not anonymous.
ReplyDeleteI admit Dave D, Les and me have no love for Trump. That's a given. But how does that define our love for America? I've heard and read a lot over the years since Trump was elected. One thing I've seen time and time again is this believe that unless we fully support what the POTUS is doing or trying to do, we are actively rooting against America, want our country to fail or are traitors.
We've never said that. We've never hinted at it. But somehow folks like yourself seem to equate policy differences people may have with a POTUS with hating America.
Let me say fine, and ask you a question.
In 2008 Barack Obama won a historic landslide in our presidential election. Then in 2012, he followed it up becoming the first president since Reagan to surpass 50% in consecutive winning elections. Something Trump, Bush, Biden and Clinton never did.
Did you fully support the ambitions of POTUS Obama after those elections? Because if you did not, and you are now critical of people who do not support Trump, even though he won with smaller margins, then there's something wrong. Or you're inconsistent. Or you're a hypocrite...
Because if your view is that ALL Americans must support all the actions and plans of only the presidents you like, you're little more than a partisan.
And I think you're better than that.
Dave,
DeleteYou win for the most polite and diplomatic of terms for MAGA fanatics. Yes, indeed, they do seem quite partisan at times. ;-)
Dave, here's my starting point. I assume everyone living in the US is rooting for the home team. You, me, Ms Z, Ed B, Shaw, Ray, Suzanne, Mustang, Tom, Les and even the horde of pissed off Anon posters.
ReplyDeleteI think there are very few people living here who actually want America, both as a country and as an idea, to fail.
I get people are angry, get angry at presidents they do not like, and sometimes even go over the top in that anger. But that does not signal to a desire to destroy America.
I think most ppl want what's best for America.
I sure do.
But sometimes presidents and their partisan backers push policies we do not believe are in the best interests of America. Sometimes the policies are just stupid or unworkable, like the old "Whip Inflation Now" program during the Ford Admin.
But there's no doubt in my mind Ford was trying to serve America, first.
That's been my default position all of my life, through the Biden Administration.
Now I have to admit I'm conflicted.
POTUS Trump has aggrandized himself and the pocket books of him and his family in ways we never seen in the history of the United States. Most reports put his wealth increase just since the start of his second term at $1.5 billion dollars.
That to me shows something and begs the question as to whether Trump is using the presidency to benefit himself personally, at the expense of America.
Many people, again, folks who love America, were rightly concerned to see Hunter Biden trading on his dad's presidency for personal gain. I too shared that concern.
But none of those people seem concerned now. Why?
It seems as if their concern still includes America, but America has been subjugated to Trump and MAGA first.
But that's because of Trump. I still believe the great majority of Americans, even the biggest MAGA supporters, want America to succeed. And love America. But many of their policies will not make that desired success possible.
Dave,
ReplyDeleteYes, nearly every American wants our country to succeed. But to MAGA, what does than entail?
They don't really care how much grifting and crimes their leaders commit or abet. They don't care how many innocent people suffer or die at the whim of their Leader.
What matters most to them is punishing people they blame and hate for simply disagreeing with them or are the wrong color. They cheer the cruelty inflicted on non-violent immigrants. They cheer the summary executions of protestors they hate.
This is what makes America great for them. They will ALWAYS vote for coddling the rich and the oligarchs, while voting against their economic well-being in order to punish those they've been indoctrinated to fear and hate.
Now our major news media are being extorted, threatened, and absorbed into being Trump's personal state media. Until we see radical change or overwhelming public enlightenment, American fascism will never be extinguished for good.
As JD Vance's sponsor and oligarch Peter Thiel said, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible".
It is why we're watching our democratic republic being systematically dismantled.
Project 2025 is their war on our freedom and democracy, and they are winning. Reversing their destruction may likely never be accomplished.
Agree with everything you said Dave M. However, I do not believe that trump has what is best for America first. His and his family and fellow oligarchs come first in his narcissistic, ignorant, and deluded mind.
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