tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post3035546645972587272..comments2024-03-28T12:43:07.327-04:00Comments on Dave Dubya's Freedom Rants: Castro Is WrongDave Dubyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comBlogger185125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-60055571096603977252012-02-07T21:02:35.889-05:002012-02-07T21:02:35.889-05:00"Three years in office and it's still Bus...<i>"Three years in office and it's still Bush's fault?"</i> and <i>"Yup. It takes much longer to rebuild an economy than to tear it down."</i><br /><br />Okay, but by your rules you don't get to blame the GOP House for anything until 2014.<br /><br /><br /><i>"taxes haven't been cut"</i> and <i>"Wrong. They remain cut, and more cuts were made."</i><br /><br />"Remain cut"? You mean they were cut under Bush and kept under Obama (speaking only of the Bush tax cuts). Not the same thing because Obama only prevented a tax increase.<br /><br />As for other tax cuts, Obama has only cut taxes temporarily. Interestingly, all of his tax increases are permanent. Hmm.<br /><br /><br /><i>"I could go on, but why waste my time with your falsehoods?"</i><br /><br />Well said. Sometimes we can agree.Eric Norenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14648635662703229678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-14063420676103256562012-02-07T20:45:05.241-05:002012-02-07T20:45:05.241-05:00Three years in office and it's still Bush'...<i>Three years in office and it's still Bush's fault?</i><br /><br />Yup. It takes much longer to rebuild an economy than to tear it down.<br /><br /><i>taxes haven't been cut,</i><br /><br />Wrong. They remain cut, and more cuts were made.<br /><br /><i>we haven't gone to war,</i><br /><br />Tell it to the surge troops that failed to win the war Bush launched.<br /><br />I could go on, but why waste my time with your falsehoods?<br /><br />Your book is just that. Yours.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-85627020002298383622012-02-07T20:21:03.833-05:002012-02-07T20:21:03.833-05:00Oh Dave, really? Three years in office and it'...Oh Dave, really? Three years in office and it's still Bush's fault?<br /><br />Let's see, you think our economic problems are caused by 1) tax cuts, 2) wars, 3) corporate welfare, and 4) deregulation. In the past three years, 1) taxes haven't been cut, 2) we haven't gone to war, 3) corporate welfare is through the roof (so we agree that Obama is an economic fool), and 4) Obama has matched Bush in the levels of new regulation.<br /><br />Do you want to try again?<br /><br />As for what Obama has done to harm the economy, how 'bout 5) raising the minimum wage (increasing unemployment), 6) extending unemployment benefits to 99 weeks (lengthening unemployment), 7) passed ObamaCare (increasing employment costs), 8) increased annual spending (increasing deficit and debt), and 9) tightened energy policy (raising prices and costing jobs).<br /><br />In my book, present Democrat policies are failing, and people like you continue to ignore them and blame Republicans. Is that the best you've got?Eric Norenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14648635662703229678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-52570948561059547892012-02-07T20:11:18.404-05:002012-02-07T20:11:18.404-05:00HR,
What Democratic policies? The Bush depression ...HR,<br />What Democratic policies? The Bush depression is the Democrats' fault?<br /><br />As far as I know those tax cuts, wars, corporate welfare, and deregulation are still doing their damage. <br /><br />And you want more of those. <br /><br />Seriously? More failed Right wing/corporatist policies are just what we need?<br /><br />We're still waiting for that Reagan trickle down.<br /><br />There tuly is no limit to greed, no limit to selfish and sociopathic disregard for the well being of other human beings and the nation itself.<br /><br />Rightward, ho! Onward to austerity for the masses, and more wealth and power for the elites.<br /><br />You'll have folks like Mr. Free rounding up liberals in no time.<br /><br />Onward to the glorious future of Amerikan fascism.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-72127732509931650102012-02-07T20:00:22.443-05:002012-02-07T20:00:22.443-05:00"We are a threat to their cult beliefs."..."We are a threat to their cult beliefs."<br /><br />What cult beliefs, like bigger govt is the answer to all social ills?<br /><br />"Bush expanded the federal government way more than Obama."<br /> Support this claim.<br /><br />"Bush also grew the debt more than any former president" And who now holds that record and by what percent?<br /><br />JG,<br />To clear the air and to allow HR a perfect understanding of the term liberal as you use it, if Obama is not a liberal, then please give HR the name of a current liberal.<br /><br />It's good to see that JG and DD are giving themsleves reach arounds again.Just the Facts!https://www.blogger.com/profile/04046021100837080313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-73765966855716983942012-02-07T19:57:13.556-05:002012-02-07T19:57:13.556-05:00"...republicans continue to ignore the histor...<i>"...republicans continue to ignore the history of their economic failures..."</i><br /><br />Hmm, and Democrats continue to ignore the <b>present</b> failure of their economic policies. Good luck in 2012.Eric Norenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14648635662703229678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-34843560390556276142012-02-07T19:39:53.330-05:002012-02-07T19:39:53.330-05:00I don't know why you would think that, Smokey....I don't know why you would think that, Smokey. After all, republicans continue to ignore the history of their economic failures. We keep,hearing the same things. Tax cuts, tax cuts, and feed the rich.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-56035330945473374722012-02-07T19:35:13.440-05:002012-02-07T19:35:13.440-05:00Just did some light reading on Norquist, and yeah....Just did some light reading on Norquist, and yeah... he rules. I just joined Americans for Tax Reform.free0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-18055748293594246362012-02-07T19:32:28.840-05:002012-02-07T19:32:28.840-05:00Ah, that's it ! Free is a Norquistian!
Can...<i>Ah, that's it ! Free is a Norquistian!</i><br /><br />Can't say I know much about Norquist but anyone who wants a government you can drown in a bathtub is my kinda people.<br /><br /><i>Sounds like that great socialist state of Texas.</i><br /><br />Go breath the air in Beijing for five minutes and you'll be praying to get back to Houston. That is if your travel "papers" are in order.free0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-32579023206239667522012-02-07T18:53:10.995-05:002012-02-07T18:53:10.995-05:00With the collapse of the USSR, Cuba's poverty,...With the collapse of the USSR, Cuba's poverty, and the downward spiral of Venezuala one would think it would be enough to discourage most utopian socialists. <br /><br />The repeated lessons of history, however, have never stopped the socialists to forever redefine socialism, past and present, in an effort to propose yet another dose of social experiments that hopefully won't lead to the gulag this time.Smokey Lagumskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-57665361495460138722012-02-07T15:34:38.104-05:002012-02-07T15:34:38.104-05:00The wisdom of Free --"Funny then how the more...The wisdom of Free --"Funny then how the more socialist the country, the dirtier the air and shittier the health care."<br /><br />Sounds like that great socialist state of Texas.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-75352730975028903532012-02-07T15:23:30.681-05:002012-02-07T15:23:30.681-05:00Are we at 200 yet?
OK, Alex, I select Truth and Ho...Are we at 200 yet?<br />OK, Alex, I select Truth and Honesty for $200.<br /><br />Who said in his book, The Wrecking Crew"<br /><br />“libertarianism is good because it helps conservatives pass off a patently probusiness political agenda as a noble bid for human freedom. Whatever we may think of libertarianism as a set of ideas, practically speaking, it is a doctrine that owes its visibility to the obvious charms it holds for the wealthy and the powerful. The reason we have so many well-funded libertarians in American these days is not because libertarianism suddenly acquired an enormous grassroots following, but because it appeals to those who are able to fund ideas. Like social Darwinism and Christian Science before it, libertarianism flatters the successful and rationalizes their core beliefs about the world. They warm to the libertarian idea that taxation is theft because they themselves don’t like to pay taxes. They fancy the libertarian notion that regulation is communist because they themselves find regulation intrusive and annoying. Libertarianism is a politics born to be subsidized."okjimmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11013002335848390765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-18712575029530947942012-02-07T15:09:53.903-05:002012-02-07T15:09:53.903-05:00“We are trying to change the tones in the state ca...“We are trying to change the tones in the state capitals - and turn them toward bitter nastiness and partisanship.”<br /><br />Grover Norquist<br /><br />Ah, that's it ! Free is a Norquistian ! Wasn't there an old TV show... "Leave it to Grover" or was it "Pettiness Junction" ?<br /><br />for someone who says some really nasty shit, it is amazing that he is the darling of the Republican Party .... ah, no , it isn't.okjimmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11013002335848390765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-61965085085283684382012-02-07T14:35:48.306-05:002012-02-07T14:35:48.306-05:00As for me being an Anarchist, that was when I was ...As for me being an Anarchist, that was when I was a teenager. I really was. Kind of how liberals were all dirty hippies as kids, most libertarians were punk rockers for a while it seems.<br /><br />Anyhoo, if you can't tell the moderate position of libertarianism and can only see the absolutes of either statism or anarchy you my friend are an extreamist.<br /><br />Hence no compromise I guess.free0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-81629829930516575862012-02-07T14:31:37.011-05:002012-02-07T14:31:37.011-05:00Funny then how the more socialist the country, the...Funny then how the more socialist the country, the dirtier the air and shittier the health care. Witness China, which has really dirty air and terrible health care. Of course the government elites in China don't have to breath that shit and they get great health care. I guess the "People's Republic" did as good a job "redistributing" as any socialist quagmire. Doesn't matter, if you complain they give you some free "education" and I here the left is all for that!free0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-89532070649261118022012-02-07T12:59:46.848-05:002012-02-07T12:59:46.848-05:00Okjimm,
If Mr. Free agrees with Culty, then isn...Okjimm,<br />If Mr. Free agrees with Culty, then isn't he committing, or at least abetting, treason by following the orders of a communist Commander in Chief? <br /><br />The horror.<br /><br />Culty,<br />My blood pressure is fine. You mistake my intolernace for fascism as a medical condition. You are wrong on just about everything else too.<br /><br />I bet you're about as "Hungarian" as Tryone Witherspoon(s). But you are a "Good German" I bet.<br /><br />And your goose-stepping into a neo-feudalist dictatorship by the minority is better than health care and cleaner air...how?Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-52366811477387066162012-02-07T12:29:38.709-05:002012-02-07T12:29:38.709-05:00Dave Dubya,
Looks like I hit a nerve and really r...Dave Dubya,<br /><br />Looks like I hit a nerve and really raised your blood pressure!<br /><br />When will you come out with a book describing your vision of a Utopian society? Will we all be forced to buy Nationalized Health Care and drive Chevy Volts in it?Crazy Hungariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-74126983414249329322012-02-07T12:15:21.516-05:002012-02-07T12:15:21.516-05:00Free
Break me up!
"I never lived under comm...Free<br /><br />Break me up!<br /><br />"I never lived under communism but I had plenty of family who did (both sides) and have lived in countries who were once communist" hence, Free is an expert on communism.<br /><br />I had an uncle that lived in Norway.<br />Hence, I am an expert on the subject of fjords.<br /><br />or...Free is a rabid right-winger...the Darling of the Right Wing is Grover Norquist..who said..<br /><br />"My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”<br /><br />Now, if you want to drown the government...you want to kill it..if you want no government... so are a ANARCHIST !<br /><br />ANARCHY<br /><br />a : absence of government <br />b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority <br /><br />Moral? Don't take a bath with Free.okjimmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11013002335848390765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-32667356201229607062012-02-07T09:02:56.075-05:002012-02-07T09:02:56.075-05:00Not silly enough to fall for a phoney Hungarian or...Not silly enough to fall for a phoney Hungarian or a "Tyrone".Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-51867948086632904442012-02-07T02:44:43.371-05:002012-02-07T02:44:43.371-05:00Nobody was more fanatical in opposition to communi...<i>Nobody was more fanatical in opposition to communism than the Nazis</i><br /><br />Typical flawed thinking you get around here. So, if you hate communism you must be a Nazi becasue Nazis hated communism. Well, Nazis liked sausage too, hence if you like sausage you must be a Nazi. Also, Nazis liked universal single payer health care, strict banking regulations, trade unions, and distrusted CEO control and were always screaming about war profiteering... I suppose using your logic anyone who likes those thinks couldn't be a commie- they must be a Nazi.<br /><br />I also got a good chuckle over the guy who was lucky enough to live in this country his whole life try to tell people with experience in what he's telling us all we should do -that it's a nightmare- don't know anything about the think we have experience with. <br /><br />Silly liberals.free0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-66234323613245711422012-02-07T00:30:45.236-05:002012-02-07T00:30:45.236-05:00Dear Readers,
I have just received some eloquent ...Dear Readers,<br /><br />I have just received some eloquent words of advice from my friend John S.<br /><br />"There is no reasoning with those fanatics with minds barricaded against reality."<br /><br />Truer words have not been spoken.<br /><br />As we know, these threads are not about reasoning. Our guests care little for that. But they are entertaining and educational.<br /><br />They are entertainment, for those of us blessed with a sick sense of humor. And they are educational, as case studies of indoctrination by American radical Right extremism.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-12564151579137844912012-02-07T00:12:50.783-05:002012-02-07T00:12:50.783-05:00Free,
I never lived under communism
The Crazy Cu...Free,<br /><i> I never lived under communism</i><br /><br />The Crazy Culty guy thinks you live under Obama the communist now. You only feed into his lunacy with:<br /><br /><i>the more you try to equally distribute wealth the more unequal the distribution</i><br /><br />Sounds like your typical Randian nonsense. Reality is the more you re-distribute wealth upward the more unequal the distribution. Like what we have now. Would you like to see the charts?<br /><br />What kind of drug do you take to see your bizarro world? I would probably need LSD to come down from it.<br /><br />JG,<br />He’s back up to tricks. I was right. We are a threat to their cult beliefs.<br /><br />Just The Troll/ Harry D./ and Crazy Hungarian has been one busy guy. Who’s next? The Tyrone Twins, Witherspoon and Witherspoon(S)?<br /><br />He’s getting fond of trolling with copy and paste from other blogs.<br /><br />I don’t know why Mr. Copy and Paste didn’t finish the job and show the complete exchange after his slice of lies and fascistic projection <i> “you can change its name to socialism, literalism, progressiveness, Marxism, fairness, or social justice but at it's core it is still the same idea.”</i><br /><br />Here’s where I shed this fascist drivel:<br /><br />Me:<br />Progressives are commies? Sounds crazy to me.<br /><br />It also sounds like Fascism 101. <br /><br />Nobody was more fanatical in opposition to communism than the Nazis. <br /><br />We have indoctrinated "conservatives" who say Nazis were really "socialists", while at the same time saying socialists are commies.<br /><br />Liberals are Nazis. Liberals are commies. Nazis are commies. There's no difference to the narrow indoctrinated brain.<br /><br />In fact, "conservatism" of the radical Right is closer to fascism and communism than their proponents are able to admit. Commies and fascists alike oppose unions, liberal democracy, a non-corporate investigative free press, educators, and progressives. And they are both in favor of absolute unchecked rule by a powerful elite minority.<br /><br />Before the radical Right seized power over our government by buying the elections, the US had a "higher level of prosperity". We didn't have permanent war and a surveillance state where we were required to show "papers please".<br /><br />This was when the elites paid higher tax rates. This was before Wall Street was de-regulated. <br /><br />Those of us wanting to restore those rates and the rule of law for Big Money are accused of being commies.<br /><br />Do only commies want our nation to be a free, prosperous and peaceful society? <br /><br />It would seem so. To a fascist, anyone who disagrees with them is a commie, or a socialist, or a Nazi. <br /><br />Go figure.<br /><br />---<br />So the Troll countered:<br /><br /><i>“Your narrative sounds straight from the Obama speechwriting team.<br /><br />It is Democrats who no longer have much to offer citizens, except more government, more spending, more control, more regulations, more coercion, more taxation, with no accountability to determine if any of this engorged government produces a desirable result.<br /><br />Republican governance, on its worst day, is better than Democrat governance on its best day”</i><br />--<br /><br />And I slammed his lie-a-thon with:<br /><br />Crazy, (I think he’s more Cult than Crazy. I’ll call him Culty from now on.) <br /><br />Obama's speechwriters wouldn't dare write what I say. Obama owes his job and loyalty to Big Money practically as much as Republicans.<br /><br />Bush expanded the federal government way more than Obama.<br /><br />Obama froze pay rates for federal workers.<br /><br />Bush also grew the debt more than any former president, with unfunded wars, tax breaks without offsets for the rich, and corporate welfare like the Medicare Prescription scam.<br /><br />I bet they didn't teach you that at the "Democrats are Commies" Indoctrination Center<br /><br />***<br /><br />There we go. That should update us until his next fascistic batch of lies, projection and BS from the Fourth Reich "Democrats are Commies" Indoctrination Center.<br /><br />Maybe we’ll get another copy and paste. I’ll bet you ten thousand dollars of redistributed wealth we do.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-38193827171358304472012-02-06T21:11:40.707-05:002012-02-06T21:11:40.707-05:00Crazy Hungarian,
I never lived under communism bu...Crazy Hungarian,<br /><br />I never lived under communism but I had plenty of family who did (both sides) and have lived in countries who were once communist. You are 100% correct about everything you've said in your post.<br /><br />In the end when it comes to "social justice" you get anything but... and the more you try to equally distribute wealth the more unequal the distribution becofree0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-14140636276306816292012-02-06T19:38:00.660-05:002012-02-06T19:38:00.660-05:00Communism by any other name is still communism: yo...Communism by any other name is still communism: you can change its name to socialism, literalism, progressiveness, Marxism, fairness, or social justice but at it's core it is still the same idea. Proponents of these groups rationalize that the only reason that all previous utopian experiments have failed was because the wrong people were in change. If we only let these new believers be in charge it would be successful. Ha! <br /><br />It is worth noting that only those that have not experienced communism are the ones that (childishly) believe in it. As one that has experienced life in both situations, I have realized that equality can only come by bringing all to the lowest common denominator, while freedom for the ambitious and creative to achieve their potential raises the entire society to a higher level of prosperity.Crazy Hungariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-134372208798387606.post-42809883093575761762012-02-06T15:08:42.924-05:002012-02-06T15:08:42.924-05:00Dave Dubya, you lamented...
"How about a new...<b>Dave Dubya</b>, you lamented...<br /><br />"<i>How about a new post...'The Collected Wisdom of Grover Norquist'</i>"<br /><br />Excellent idea!<br /><br />Speaking of; did you see the article in yesterday's <i>Washington Post</i> ("Outlook" section)? It was an op/ed by former Reagan domestic policy adviser, Bruce Bartlett, who says that GOP candidates need to get over Reaganomics. The last paragraph sums it up:<br /><br />"<i>Economic conditions are entirely different today than they were in Reagan's era, and different conditions demand different policies. Those who say otherwise are simply engaging in cookie-cutter economics -- proposing whatever was popular and seemed to work once, without regard to changing circumstances.</i>"Jefferson's Guardianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16950868026721859555noreply@blogger.com